Here they go ripping JP

[East Brady]

Ripping JP for the saftey calling him a moron ......

 

unbelievable calling for Holcomb ......

 

Would Holcomb have taken the saftey bla bla bla .......

 

Funny for being such genius's you'd think Patty Kirwin would know that NE killed the last 1:30

 

plus minutes deep in Bills end.........

 

These guys are total tools I think patty needs a napkin everytime he talks about KH!!!

[Buftex]

Ripping JP for the saftey calling him a moron ......

 

unbelievable calling for Holcomb ......

 

Would Holcomb have taken the saftey bla bla bla .......

 

Funny for being such genius's you'd think Patty Kirwin would know that NE killed the last 1:30

 

plus minutes deep in Bills end.........

 

These guys are total tools I think patty needs a napkin everytime he talks about KH!!!

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Chris Landrey said it best last night on FOX Sports Radio...."there are so few people being payed as media "experts" on the NFL that have any clue as to what they are talking about, I don't listen to any of them anymore, they are more often than not, just flat out wrong."

 

Landrey is just as critcal of FOX as he is ESPN...so it is not a network rivalry thing.

 

Called his show last night, and he basically said, if JP can tune out all of the mis-informed critics, he will be a very good NFL QB. He says that being "thin skinned" is one of the most detrimental things for an NFL QB. He is of the opinion that being hyper-sensitive to criticism is part of Jake Plummers biggest problems.

 

FWIW, Landrey also thinks that the Bills are in very capable hands with Levy, and thinks Dick Jauron is an excellent football coach. He was very impressed by the Bills yesterday! He recognizes that they still have some major problems (stopping the run being chief amongst them), but is pretty sure they are going to be a very competitive team this year....the Bills were one of his "standout" teams from yesterday.

[Peter]

All in all, JP played a pretty darn good game under hostile conditions on the road against the best team in the league over the past 5 years.

 

Do I wish he got rid of the ball? Yes. Yet, he was trying to make a play.

 

For JP's sake, I am happy his name is not Willis. Otherwise, there would be people on this board who would be trying to trash him for that.

[PromoTheRobot]

All in all, JP played a pretty darn good game under hostile conditions on the road against the best team in the league over the past 5 years.

 

Do I wish he got rid of the ball?  Yes.  Yet, he was trying to make a play.

 

For JP's sake, I am happy his name is not Willis.  Otherwise, there would be people on this board who would be trying to trash him for that.

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Explain how the safety was his fault? The blitz was on and he had defenders on him before he even dropped back.

 

PTR

[Thailog80]

Had McGee stayed in the end zone this discussion doesn't happen.

[Peter]

Explain how the safety was his fault?  The blitz was on and he had defenders on him before he even dropped back.

 

PTR

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I thought that my post was pretty positive about JP. You may want to try reading it again.

[VABills]

Had McGee stayed in the end zone this discussion doesn't happen.

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So what you're saying is Mcgee sucks.

 

Cut'em now.

[ganesh]

Had McGee stayed in the end zone this discussion doesn't happen.

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Shouldn't he have been on the sideline, considering that it was the Offense that was on the field

[Drewgetz]

Brady completed 11 of 23 passes for 163 yards with an interception while Losman connected on 15-for-23 attempts for 164 yards.

 

 

JP had better numbers then Brady...'nuff said.

[Thailog80]

Shouldn't he have been on the sideline, considering that it was the Offense that was on the field 

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He takes a knee.....no penalty is called (maybe) and we are at the 20 to start the drive not the 7

[SilverNRed]

Had McGee stayed in the end zone this discussion doesn't happen.

769617[/snapback]

I'd always want McGee taking the ball back. Every time he has it, there's the opportunity for a TD, even if the price is occasionally the Bills are stuck behind the 20 for a drive start.

 

As for the play itself. Channel 7 showed the replay in slow motion last night and even then more than one Patriot was all over JP very quickly. He didn't have a chance.

[Thailog80]

I'd always want McGee taking the ball back.  Every time he has it, there's the opportunity for a TD, even if the price is occasionally the Bills are stuck behind the 20 for a drive start.

 

As for the play itself.  Channel 7 showed the replay in slow motion last night and even then more than one Patriot was all over JP very quickly.  He didn't have a chance.

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I do as well but that one time it bit us in the ass hard.

[Beerball]

He takes a knee.....no penalty is called (maybe) and we are at the 20 to start the drive not the 7

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I dunno about that. I would say it was 50/50 at best. McGee takes a knee, refs call a penalty and since he's in the endzone they award the pats a safety. It coulda happened just like that.

[ganesh]

Brady won, Losman lost.

 

Brady made plays to lead his team to victory, Losman cost his team the game with the saftey.

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I don't understand why Losman cost us that game with the safety.....That happened with 8:33 to go....After that safety, we had a shot at the Pats when

Whitner intercepted it...but our offense stalled...Then we had 6:13 to go and the

Defense could not get the ball back....and if the Pats need a FG to win, they would

have got it in that last series, considering they were in our red-zone...

 

This idea is similar to what the national media is running with...They see the highlights on ESPN and/or check the box stats and decide that Losmans safety was the only reason we lost the game...and then parrot that information on the radio, tv, www....Today morning Greenberg was slamming Losman (Accusing him to have had a brain crimp..) for the safety and the reason the bills lost.....And now the sirrius guy Kirwan who has a hidden agenda for KH did the same....

 

The team as a whole made too many mental errors at different times and the result was a loss. It is time for this team to grow up and reduce the mental mistakes and cut down the # of errors they make in a game. Against a 3 time SB champion the # of mistakes they made were too hard to overcome.

[Drewgetz]

Brady won, Losman lost.

 

Brady made plays to lead his team to victory, Losman cost his team the game with the saftey.

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Losman DID NOT cost the game with a saftey, wasn't all his fault. And Brady's interception was perfect timing for it to help the Pats win...

 

Talk about not thinking before typing Are your eyes even open when you type?

[IDBillzFan]

Brady won, Losman lost.

 

Brady made plays to lead his team to victory, Losman cost his team the game with the saftey.

769634[/snapback]

Welcome to the sport. You'll find the NFL a very exciting pasttime, and we're always glad to see someone who knows absolutely nothing about the game take the plunge and try to learn about it right away.

 

As the season progresses, don't be afraid to ask us questions about the game that will help you learn it more quickly.

 

In the meantime, it's always good to get more new fans to watch the NFL and we're glad you're here.

[ganesh]

Brady won, Losman lost.

 

Brady made plays to lead his team to victory, Losman cost his team the game with the saftey.

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I would have been OK, if you had said Losman failed to capitalize on the Whitner interception....That at least would have had some merit....

[BuffOrange]

Had McGee stayed in the end zone this discussion doesn't happen.

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OMG seriously?

[Dan]

I think its time to state the obvious... the Bills played held and shoulders above what anyone expected. They hung with the Pats in Foxboro, well enough to actually win the game. However, due to a number of bad calls/bad bounces; we lost.

 

I see the game as a positive that we can build on. If we win the next 2 games (something that definitely seems likely after yesterday's better than expected play), we're suddenly 2-1 and then the season has a whole new light on it.

[VABills]

Brady completed 11 of 23 passes for 163 yards with an interception while Losman connected on 15-for-23 attempts for 164 yards.

JP had better numbers then Brady...'nuff said.

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Yeah except one of those two guys threw a couple of TD's.

 

2 TD's and an INT trumps a safety and no TD's any day.

[Drewgetz]

Yeah except one of those two guys threw a couple of TD's. 

 

2 TD's and an INT trumps a safety and no TD's any day.

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And yet you neglect to put the numbers in perspective. A superbowl QB against a almost rookie QB who nobody has faith in. Hmmm, I'll take those numbers for the 1st game any day.

[PatPatPatSack]

Welcome to the sport. You'll find the NFL a very exciting pasttime, and we're always glad to see someone who knows absolutely nothing about the game take the plunge and try to learn about it right away.

 

As the season progresses, don't be afraid to ask us questions about the game that will help you learn it more quickly.

 

In the meantime, it's always good to get more new fans to watch the NFL and we're glad you're here.

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Ha Ha!

 

Post O' the Week.

 

Mind if I borrow it for awhile?

[VABills]

And yet you neglect to put the numbers in perspective.  A superbowl QB against a almost rookie QB who nobody has faith in.  Hmmm, I'll take those numbers for the 1st game any day.

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An almost rookie. Give it a rest. He cannot be considered an almost rookie anymore then Hocomb can. They have basically the same number of starts at this point. Hell Losmans been through 3 training camps now. Granted 2 were with meathead. But by any stretch he cannot be called a rookie anymore.

[Lv-Bills]

Explain how the safety was his fault?  The blitz was on and he had defenders on him before he even dropped back.

 

PTR

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He could have dove out of the endzone with some quicker thinking.

 

That being said, we all saw improvement in JP yesterday. I think his grade for the game would have been an A. He had some zip on his passes, and was accurate. He was in command of the offense and made some key throws.

 

He has definately improved, and showed promise yesterday that can give us all a hope that he has a chance to be our future.

 

Hats off for a pretty good game by JP. He also should have known where he was and dove out to the 1/2 yard line.

 

Calling for Holcomb at this point would be moronic by anyone. Holcomb should be released and Nall should be the #2.

[Drewgetz]

An almost rookie.  Give it a rest.  He cannot be considered an almost rookie anymore then Hocomb can.  They have basically the same number of starts at this point.  Hell Losmans been through 3 training camps now.  Granted 2 were with meathead.  But by any stretch he cannot be called a rookie anymore.

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He's had 1/2 year playing time, yes "almost" rookie is not far fetched. If that's all you are getting from the post then you are "almost" like meathead.

[BuffalOhio]

Brady won, Losman lost.

 

Brady made plays to lead his team to victory, Losman cost his team the game with the saftey.

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Wow, it's that easy, eh? You're an idiot for saying that. Have a nice day.

[shrader]

Yeah except one of those two guys threw a couple of TD's. 

 

2 TD's and an INT trumps a safety and no TD's any day.

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An interception that was returned for a TD (should've been anyway) and a fumble that was returned for a TD. That evens things out even more.

[Ramius]

Exactly, people still B word about Losman being inexperienced, and young, and to just give him time to develop.

Its his 3rd year in the NFL, This is do or die for him.

 

He still looks like an average to below average starter.

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you seem to be another poster afflicted with "cranium lodged firmly inside their rectum" syndrome.

 

perhaps you missed the o-line get torched on the safety, and a few patsies in JP's face as he was finishing his drop back. But, to give you some credit, i probably would have missed that too if my head was as far up my ass as yours obviously was.

[scribo]

IMHO, anyone who watched the game should KNOW the loss was far from Losman's fault, and that the Pats would have scored more if they needed to. Yes, the safety broke the tie and was the game's final scoring, but the Pats were trying to kill the clock -not score- in the fourth quarter. Brady was doing whatever he wanted in the end, and there is no doubt in my mind that if the Bills punted instead of giving up that safety, the Pats would have scored a TD or at least FG on their possession.

[tennesseeboy]

Losman did a good job. He's got a lot of upside to show and will show it throughout the season. The safety? Hey it was third and 11 and he wasn't given any time whatsoever. I see it as just one of those things and can't wait for next week. The Sirius guys seem to think Buffalo is the worst team in the NFL...I wanted so much to get on the air and ask them what they thought of the "joke" draft choice of Whitner now.

[scribo]

An interception that was returned for a TD (should've been anyway) and a fumble that was returned for a TD.  That evens things out even more.

769716[/snapback]

Spot on. Not to mention the fact that Brady was at home, while Losman was playing through the noise. I think J.P. outplayed Brady yesterday.

[Drewgetz]

Exactly, people still B word about Losman being inexperienced, and young, and to just give him time to develop.

Its his 3rd year in the NFL, This is do or die for him.

 

He still looks like an average to below average starter.

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meathead number 2 speaks up. I think you guys are a better fit in miami, you can start a meanthead backers club.

[Tasker]

Brady won, Losman lost.

 

Brady made plays to lead his team to victory, Losman cost his team the game with the saftey.

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Are you kidding me? Brady fumbled for 7 opponent points, JP was sacked for 2 opponent points. JP played better than Brady overall, although neither was stellar. More importantly neither was the key reason for a win or loss.

 

The Bills got beaten by a better team in a game they could have won. The run D was the biggest problem, although the O-Line cost us on two big plays (not enough protection on the safety, and getting blown up on the 4th and 1).

 

It is an L, and one of the most frustrating kinds, the kind that very easily could have been a W. It doesn't need to be a moral victory, because half the teams lose every week and winning the game was the goal, but it is a game we can build off of, and head down to Miami to win.

[Beerball]

Welcome to the sport. You'll find the NFL a very exciting pasttime, and we're always glad to see someone who knows absolutely nothing about the game take the plunge and try to learn about it right away.

 

As the season progresses, don't be afraid to ask us questions about the game that will help you learn it more quickly.

 

In the meantime, it's always good to get more new fans to watch the NFL and we're glad you're here.

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Watch out LA. That dude's got 666 posts. Could be a sign of evil......

[34-78-83]

Losman did a good job.  He's got a lot of upside to show and will show it throughout the season.  The safety?  Hey it was third and 11 and he wasn't given any time whatsoever.  I see it as just one of those things and can't wait for next week.  The Sirius guys seem to think Buffalo is the worst team in the NFL...I wanted so much to get on the air and ask them what they thought of the "joke" draft choice of Whitner now.

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Better yet, someone should call them and point out that Bills fans know he is lying/ making it up about the KH vs. Losman crap.

[Tasker]

Had McGee stayed in the end zone this discussion doesn't happen.

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Nope. McGee is too big a threat to play passive scared. When he runs it back he almost always ends up past the 20, and a lot of the time well past it. Fear that he might once in a while end up inside the 20 shouldn't be what gets us. If I recall the field position was pretty similar to NE's touchdown drive after the 4th and 1 failure by us. The difference is they moved the ball, we didn't. Tip your cap, find ways to improve, and start planning for Miami. I hope McGee comes out of the end zone every time against the Fish.

[meazza]

Brady won, Losman lost.

 

Brady made plays to lead his team to victory, Losman cost his team the game with the saftey.

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What a stupid ignorant post.

 

nuff said

[Tasker]

An interception that was returned for a TD (should've been anyway) and a fumble that was returned for a TD.  That evens things out even more.

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Also, JP can't be faulted for A-Train running for 18.

 

Each QB was in the red zone twice.

 

JP:

1) A-Train TD

2) WM 2yds, Shelton INC, Evans 7yds, WM 0yds

 

Brady:

1) TD pass after 1st and goal from the 3 thanks to two long runs by Maroney

2) Maroney 1yd, INC, touchdown to faulk (great play)

 

So the difference is JP going 7 yards to Evans on 3rd and 8, while Brady when 17 for the TD on 3rd and 9. Clearly a better job by Brady, and probably balances out for the fumble and the INT.

 

But I think having JP play about as well as Brady is a pretty good week 1, and am disappointed that run D and a failed 4th down conversion prevented what would have been a stunning upset and the absolute best learning experience and confidence boost for a young team.

 

It would have been nice if JP could have gotten rid of the ball or been sacked a foot closer to the line of scrimmage, but based on his total performance, I think we should be excited about heading to Miami.

[ACor58]

Unfortunately for Losman, 15-23 and 164 doesn't cut it in some peoples eyes.

 

He didn't have much of a chance in the 2nd half, as the Patriots controlled the ball for most of the clock. Let's not forget that he was facing pressure all day and really did not have a chance to take many shots downfield. I am more than happy with the way that he played and I have a feeling that he is going to turn some heads next week against the Dolphins.

[Ralonzo]

These guys are major retards. Does anyone doubt that if JP throws it away from inside the tackle box that the flag isn't going to be thrown for grounding? Especially from that crew? 2 points either way.