LabattBlue Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Now that Marv has shown a willingness to appear on WGR, can Schopp please end the WHINING that lasted all of last year about how nobody from the Bills organization would appear on their station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 "We will retain Nate Clements" stood out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Now that Marv has shown a willingness to appear on WGR, can Schopp please end the WHINING that lasted all of last year about how nobody from the Bills organization would appear on their station. 603639[/snapback] I'd almost admire him more if he stayed away. With very few exceptions, it is almost like being interviewed on the Daily Show or appearing on the Da Ali G Show. The only difference is that the hosts aren't trying to be comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR4444 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 "We will retain Nate Clements" stood out to me. 603647[/snapback] yes, me too. and it was refreshingly weird to hear a Bills official make a definitive statement like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 "We will retain Nate Clements" stood out to me. 603647[/snapback] I like it. Crafty old Marv is using the media to do his negotiating. Send the message to Nate and his agent that they can either try to come up with a reasonable long term deal in Buffalo, or he can play year-to-year and roll the dice on the FT number going up next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 With very few exceptions, it is almost like being interviewed on .... the Da Ali G Show. 603649[/snapback] Does that mean Shaud Williams will get a weekly spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Now that Marv has shown a willingness to appear on WGR, can Schopp please end the WHINING that lasted all of last year about how nobody from the Bills organization would appear on their station. 603639[/snapback] Wishful thinking, LB. Whining, pissing, and moaning is part of their genetic makeup. They have no interest in doing a sports talk show - they are more interested in being goofy, loud, obnoxious, and insulting. I doubt they do any prep work at all - sometimes it seems that they haven't even read today's sports page before coming on air. It gets even worse when that assclown Jerry Sullivan joins them - I swear sometimes he doesn't even know what's printed in his own newspaper that day. Unfortunately, they spent too much time studying at the knee of Chuck Dickerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Free agency, the draft, OL, DL, QB, Moulds - Marv answers all... The Marvelous One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 They're replaying it right now on GR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZone78 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Is WGR's web site down or something? I haven't gotten to work at all for the past couple times I've tried it. Maybe my IT department is on to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Is WGR's web site down or something? I haven't gotten to work at all for the past couple times I've tried it. Maybe my IT department is on to me. 603712[/snapback] For $25, I'll tell you how to tunnel it through another machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well, if there was ever any doubt, Clements WILL be on the team in 06. Imo, that is a good thing under any conditions. How could we replace him? A first round pick may or may not work, and we need this selection (and more) to address other positions. While I place little stock in this type of interview, this was a good one overall imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Here was an interesting comment that I thought was an indictment of the previous administration: "Letting Pat Williams get away is an eye blinker to me". Marv seems committed to building out from the offensive and defensive line. Perhaps the future is brighter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 We all know the Bills couldn't come up with the extra 1-1.5M/year to re-sign big Pat. The 4 year 11M offered before the season was enough of an offer. Enough that the Bills didn't even contact him from there on out! Huge mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well, if there was ever any doubt, Clements WILL be on the team in 06. Imo, that is a good thing under any conditions. How could we replace him? A first round pick may or may not work, and we need this selection (and more) to address other positions. While I place little stock in this type of interview, this was a good one overall imo. 603742[/snapback] I myself knew this. When they let WInfield walk away to free agency, I knew they did that with the intention they were saving their corner money for clements when his contract was up. Otherwise they would have locked up winfield. A team doesnt let 2 above average 1st round corners walk away from the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 3 cheers for Marv.. bravo, bravo, bravo. Things Marv and TD do the same: Leave out lots of information. Things that Marv and TD do difference: Marv tells you why he is withholding information. TD talks like a little boy who just peed his pants and is afraid to admit it. Also its good that Howard and Marv get along. They were like old drinking buddies getting together to talk football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I was hoping Marv wouldn't stoop so low as to agree to interviews with WGR. WGR is a classless act that its only saving grace is that it is the only sports radio in town. Marv has sold out to the Dope and the Poodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Marv: "Letting Pat Wlliams go was an eye blinker to me." I love Marv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I was hoping Marv wouldn't stoop so low as to agree to interviews with WGR. WGR is a classless act that its only saving grace is that it is the only sports radio in town. Marv has sold out to the Dope and the Poodle. 603940[/snapback] Howard Simon is OK, but I can't even stand listening to those idiots in the afternoon. Half the time they're not even talking sports anyway - they babbling on an on about who's the best rock band, or milk in a bag, or some other nonsense. I listen when Jim Kelly is on or when something interesting has happened with the Bills, but usually have to turn it off after 5 minutes or so 'cause those stupid morons are so aggravating, and there's just way too many commercials anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Marv: "Letting Pat Wlliams go was an eye blinker to me." I love Marv. 604023[/snapback] Ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Does that mean Shaud Williams will get a weekly spot? 603677[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 All I can say is those of us who are not within broadcast distance would take ANYTHING bills....even WGR Please start streaming WGR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Not only is it great that Marv sees how stupid that move was - it's all I talked about all off season last year - and was hoping I was wrong. But, I love how Marv terms it. He took Pat's words "they're just dumb as can be up there" and makes it sound better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Howard Simon is OK, but I can't even stand listening to those idiots in the afternoon. Half the time they're not even talking sports anyway - they babbling on an on about who's the best rock band, or milk in a bag, or some other nonsense. I listen when Jim Kelly is on or when something interesting has happened with the Bills, but usually have to turn it off after 5 minutes or so 'cause those stupid morons are so aggravating, and there's just way too many commercials anyway. 604052[/snapback] I always thought Simon was one of the best (if not THE best) local sports guy around...that was when he was with the FM station. Never heard him much on WGR, though. Nice sig, Sen. (Yes, we do!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 All I can say is those of us who are not within broadcast distance would take ANYTHING bills....even WGR Please start streaming WGR 604071[/snapback] Yeah...if only they talked about the Bills, instead of best movies for Valentimes Day, or whatever other bullsh/t they fill time with when there's no hot story and they haven't bothered to do any prep or research before taking to the airwaves. But I feel your pain - I spent twenty years away from The BuffTown in vrious other places, and it sucks not getting your daily Bills fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radio dude Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'm sure the interview w/Marv on Sirius NFL Radio was more in-depth than WGR. He seemed a bit rattled when he was asked why he chose Jauron over Sherman when the question was asked, considering the track records of both are soooo far apart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Now that Marv has shown a willingness to appear on WGR, can Schopp please end the WHINING that lasted all of last year about how nobody from the Bills organization would appear on their station. 603639[/snapback] You know that was true, right? Schopp wouldn't admit the reason behind it, of course, but Tom Donahoe DID lock out GR -- including Simon, who wasn't even working there yet when the spit hit the fan. This, from Chuck Pollock a month or so ago: As Buffalo struggled for consistency — 3-13, 8-8, 6-10, 9-7 — it became increasingly obvious that Donahoe, in baseball lexicon, had rabbit ears. He was bothered by criticism almost to the point of paranoia. That attitude kicked into high gear during training camp of 2004 on the day then-rookie quarterback J.P. Losman broke his leg when hit by cornerback Troy Vincent at the end of a showy scramble. Speculation was rampant that Vincent made the hit, surely not with the intent to injure, but certainly to make a point to Losman that hot-dogging has no place in the NFL ... especially in practice. Later that afternoon, Donahoe did an interview on WGR radio and vehemently denied that Vincent’s hit had any other purpose than merely playing his position. The Bills’ chief executive had barely removed his headset when the show’s host, in effect, asked the listeners, “Do you believe him?” Donahoe took understandable umbrage at the suggestion he was lying and that began his alienation from WGR which lasted to the day he left. From then on, the sports talk station had no player interviews unless they were recorded in group media access situations and reportedly it wasn’t directly informed of press conferences or team news. As a result, WGR stepped up its criticism of the Bills, in general, and Donahoe in particular. Even as he leaves, stories persist of Donahoe having PR lackeys listen to Buffalo sports talk radio to take note of criticisms of both him and the team. Olean Times Herald Between the two of them, I'm betting Levy and Simon can finally inject some sanity back into the OneBillsDrive-WGR relationship... even if certain afternoon hosts continue to make fools of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 You know that was true, right? Schopp wouldn't admit the reason behind it, of course, but Tom Donahoe DID lock out GR -- including Simon, who wasn't even working there yet when the spit hit the fan. This, from Chuck Pollock a month or so ago: Between the two of them, I'm betting Levy and Simon can finally inject some sanity back into the OneBillsDrive-WGR relationship... even if certain afternoon hosts continue to make fools of themselves. 604398[/snapback] The sad thing is that TD was absolutely justified for saying what he did re: Vincent's hit on JP. It was and still is absurd to think that it was an intentional move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 The sad thing is that TD was absolutely justified for saying what he did re: Vincent's hit on JP. It was and still is absurd to think that it was an intentional move. 604482[/snapback] Agreed. TD had a legitimate beef; I just think he took his retaliation a little too far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I love how GR says they don't spit out the company line - meaning the Bills company line - when each and every one of them obviously got the memo that the company line this past season was to bash the Bills every chance they get. Shoop would turn things that had absolutely nothing to do with the Bills into a bash of them. That crap seems to have stopped. I actually think he is pretty funny, and I enjoy listening to them again, instead of wanting to put my hand thru the radio and strange him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Personally I liked th part about where does mcgahee fit in. "That the coacing staff is on the same page about this. He's essential" "11 teams had fewer rushing attempts then the bills last season. 10 of them had losing records" At face values seem like a verbal commitment to run the ball. Stuff I love to hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 You know that was true, right? Schopp wouldn't admit the reason behind it, of course, but Tom Donahoe DID lock out GR -- including Simon, who wasn't even working there yet when the spit hit the fan. 604398[/snapback] I do realize it's true, but instead of trying to initiate talks to repair the relationship, all he did was carry on like a 5 year old who can't get his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Free agency, the draft, OL, DL, QB, Moulds - Marv answers all... The Marvelous One 603692[/snapback] My confidence in this team is boosted once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 My confidence in this team is boosted once more. biggrin.gif I agree....Why didn't we hire him sooner? Listening to Marv - I'm amazed...A great football mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 my favorite part of the interview was this: (paraphrasing) HS: you are in the middle of evaluating the personel....what have you discovered to this point what the needs are for this team? ML: for me to come out and say publicly, 'this is a need here....and this is a need here right off the bat' would be saying to the current players on the roster that they are not good enough. and that is not really what you intend when you say it, but that is the way it is interpreted. ....(he continued)..... ML: driving in this morning i was listening to your program and i heard a number of people calling in, and they expounded on what our needs are....and fans have a good idea of what our needs are....they aren't always accurate, but they have a pretty darn good idea. (needless to say that 30 minutes before the interview fans were bemoaning the need to upgrade the OL) ML: ability without character will always lose. HS: marv, despite that you just said you don't want to call out any one player individually, can you discuss specific needs on the OL? ML: i won't discuss players by name, but it begins and ends with the OL and DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ML: ability without character will always lose. As much as it is a nice quote - Marv has to retire this one IMO. His tendency to repeat the same sound bites time after time after time and rehash old war stories (did anyone ever hear the story behind drafting Thurman??!!) I find distracting - and I think it can play into a doddering old fool stereotype if overdone. I feel the latest one he will beat to death now is "Greatest Show On Snow!" That being said - I do feel better when I hear him speak. Not even as much his knowledge of football - but even more for his ability to say the right thing without sounding patronizing - and actually give some opinions and not spout meaningless double-speak with no useful content. He knows how to use the media to make the fans feel like he is letting them in on what is happening and their opinion/support matters. It's odd too - whenever I hear him speak one thing that always comes into my mind is how much happier a place OBD must be now. You can just picture him walking around and having meetings and doing things to boost morale and get people excited about the team and their part in it (and true or not, a picture of a somber dysfunctional OBD under Donahoe (at least towards the end) comes into my head as well). Hopefully that attitude will pervade into the locker room and on the field as well. One other thing - from the Gilgore DJ interview - the thing that really stood out to me was him saying (more than once) "if those players (quality/character guys) aren't here them we'll go out and find some" - almost putting the players on notice. I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Rocks - I liked that part, too, because I've seen things before where a GM says we need to upgrade at TE or something, and I think you have just put down your own tight end. Not only are you humiating somebody on your team, but what happens if you don't get your "upgrade"? Marv just gets it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradRiter Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I love how GR says they don't spit out the company line - meaning the Bills company line - when each and every one of them obviously got the memo that the company line this past season was to bash the Bills every chance they get. 604550[/snapback] I never get those memos. I hate that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I never get those memos. I hate that place. 604775[/snapback] I was just about to post a small rebuttal to that myself. During my most recent stint in WNY I was no fan of WGR. (I think the loss of the FM sports-talk station was a real blow to the sports fans in the area.) BUT, I've worked in enough media organizations to doubt management would resort to an official policy of bashing the Bills. It makes no sense on many levels (one of which is, people leave and talk about the last place they worked). With that said, there certainly seemed to be a culture of Bills bashing there...I just doubt it was an edict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I never get those memos. I hate that place. 604775[/snapback] Brad - I am a big fan of yours. Listen all the time - you crack me up. But every one of you have the same Bills bashing mentality if it's not the company line. Shoop saying on Channel 2 that the fans "hate this team." No, GR hated the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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