Fumbled Clock before Halftime

[djp14150]

23 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

WTF happened there?

 

First Maye was down inbounds but the refs stopped the clock

 

Then I think there was a play and the refs ran off 10 seconds but added 2 seconds back on

thus was a booth review to when he was down in bounds , then 10 sec penalty if no team wanted to use a time out. Neither did.

 

this is standard practice in in bounds/ out of bounds plays or receiver caught/ not ….time is restored to when incident happened then they go from there 

 

 

23 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

 

Then the Pats run a play with .06 left and the clock never started until after the guy was tackled 10 yards down field

 

Then the refs put .02 on the clock and let the Pats kick a FG

 

official keep time on field.  Thry ruled NE called time out.  
 

a move by Buffalo is if the back tripped up but they did not touch him and let the clock run out.

23 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

 

That FG attempt should have never even happened but incompetent Refs doing their thing yet again against the Bills

 

The Bills should file a complaint with the league because that whole sequence was BS, luckily it didnt cost them the game.

 

Thoughts?

thevrules were followed. NE coach called time out as he had told the side judge he’d do after the play ended.

[QCity]

3 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

official keep time on field. 

 

 

Are you claiming the refs knew in advance that the timekeeper wouldn't start the clock at :06 and therefore kept time on the field? Because that sounds like nonsense.

[Rocbillsfan1]

I was away from the tv but that is interesting. I did notice that the clock never started when the patriots had the ball on their last drive. I believe it was the third down play. The refs tried to figure it out at least. So it happened both times the patriots had it under 2 minutes to go. lol. ***** Boston.

[JohnNord]

36 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

WTF happened there?

 

First Maye was down inbounds but the refs stopped the clock

 

Then I think there was a play and the refs ran off 10 seconds but added 2 seconds back on

 

Then the Pats run a play with .06 left and the clock never started until after the guy was tackled 10 yards down field

 

Then the refs put .02 on the clock and let the Pats kick a FG

 

That FG attempt should have never even happened but incompetent Refs doing their thing yet again against the Bills

 

The Bills should file a complaint with the league because that whole sequence was BS, luckily it didnt cost them the game.

 

Thoughts?

That was annoying.  The Maye run wasn’t even close.  Clock never should have stopped.  They probably saved a few seconds and/or a timeout.  
 

I went back and self-timed the Stevenson run at the end of the half.  He still probably slides with :02 seconds on the clock but again they might not have a timeout.  

[Billsatlastin2018]

36 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Interesting. I'd like to see a clip. 

 

@IYKYK kind of an odd response. I don't recall the sequence. I'd like to see it. 

I did.

 

Watched it in regular motion from the snap and counted “one thousand one”, etc. 

 

ZERO chance the clock hadn’t run out!

Zero! They don’t have tenths of a second on an NFL time clock.

 

It was a totally incompetent crew! 
 

Since that FREE FG was critical at the end of the half, I don’t know why McClappy didn’t lose his mind and demand a review of the play at the time AND them refereeing in the future didn’t/ doesn’t happen! 

[Ray Stonada]

Thanks for this thread.

 

If anyone thinks it was a mistake that the clock stayed at 0:06 seconds for at least 2-3 seconds, at Foxborough with the Patriots driving, they don't know Robert Kraft.

[Robert Paulson]

1 minute ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

I did.

 

Watched it in regular motion from the snap and counted “one thousand one”, etc. 

 

ZERO chance the clock hadn’t run out!

Zero! They don’t have tenths of a second on an NFL time clock.

 

It was a totally incompetent crew! 
 

Since that FREE FG was critical at the end of the half, I don’t know why McClappy didn’t lose his mind and demand a review of the play at the time AND them refereeing in the future didn’t/ doesn’t happen! 

This is what pissed me off. He stood there with a 'oh well,darn it' look on his face.  Our whole living room was going bonkers and he's standing there like a defeated mope.

[NickelCity]

33 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

The clock operator botched the final play, but I think the timing was correct. 

 

On first play officials called maye oob. They were wrong, and replay fixed it. The rule there is either 10 sec runoff or spend a TO, t simulate what would have happened if they ran a play with a running clock. The 10 sec runoff is from when knees were down, not from when he was called oob. I amagine they looked at the clock and saw 16 sec when his knee touched down, then ran off 10 sec so final play started with 6 sec. 

 

They would have lost more than 10 seconds had they made the correct and obvious call about Maye being tackled in bounds. It was a huge gift.

[Real McClappy]

8 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

That was annoying.  The Maye run wasn’t even close.  Clock never should have stopped.  They probably saved a few seconds and/or a timeout.  
 

I went back and self-timed the Stevenson run at the end of the half.  He still probably slides with :02 seconds on the clock but again they might not have a timeout.  

There is how coaching matters. He did go down with about 2-3 seconds left. In that scenario our HC needs tell the D players if the Offense player slides down, do not to touch the player on the ground to let time run out before the Pats could even use a TO or kick a FG. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Real McClappy

[djp14150]

17 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

Are you claiming the refs knew in advance that the timekeeper wouldn't start the clock at :06 and therefore kept time on the field? Because that sounds like nonsense.

Officials always keep time on the field.

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, LarryMadman said:

WTF happened there?

 

First Maye was down inbounds but the refs stopped the clock

 

Then I think there was a play and the refs ran off 10 seconds but added 2 seconds back on

 

Then the Pats run a play with .06 left and the clock never started until after the guy was tackled 10 yards down field

 

Then the refs put .02 on the clock and let the Pats kick a FG

 

That FG attempt should have never even happened but incompetent Refs doing their thing yet again against the Bills

 

The Bills should file a complaint with the league because that whole sequence was BS, luckily it didnt cost them the game.

 

Thoughts?

That was home cooking because we don't know if Pats had enough time to FG and clock just did not move.  They should give away team right for 10 sec runoff when that happens and i guarantee that nonsense does not happen.  Why only at the half and not during the game later in second half

[Billsatlastin2018]

56 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

I love how the announcers just skipped over it like it was no big deal. Between them having an ***** every time the cheats scored to the blatant time clock cheating incident. They were just horrible. 

I’m pretty sure, even Brady- as a commentator, would absolutely have mentioned it.As would have Romo. I’ve seen both call out FUBARs simultaneously to the play ending.

 

And then the refs reviewed what they said and changed their minds. Baker Mayfield being called out…late… for Intentional Grounding comes to mind.

 

When this obvious Home Cooking Gillette call comes up, a COMPETENT Ref would have called Time, pulled out a Stopwatch and watched from the real time snap, to see whether the Pats got a Patsy!

 

They sure as ***** did!

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

yeah the :06 second thing was some serious home-cookin'

kind of? It seemed the refs had accurate time and fixed the stadium clock. 
 

terrible optics but on a practical level I don’t think much there 

30 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

They would have lost more than 10 seconds had they made the correct and obvious call about Maye being tackled in bounds. It was a huge gift.

this I’ll agree with. But was at least a close-ish call. But a miss that hurt.

[GunnerBill]

32 minutes ago, Real McClappy said:

There is how coaching matters. He did go down with about 2-3 seconds left. In that scenario our HC needs tell the D players if the Offense player slides down, do not to touch the player on the ground to let time run out before the Pats could even use a TO or kick a FG. 

 

It doesn't matter if he is touched. If the ref considers the offensive player is giving himself up it is the end of the play. The refs would, rightly, have considered that in the case in question and allowed NE a time out. 

[buffalostu2]

The entire first half the refs catered to the Patriots. Maybe this was set up pregame strategically by the Vrable.  Anytime there was a play inn question, the refs had the clock stopped and were over talking to Vrable.  Which in the case of his challenges, gave them more time to see replays.  Unlike the Bills potential challenge on the Boutte catch where the ball was spotted immediately for the Pats to run a play.

 

As far as the clock, they should have just given Vrable a whistle at that point.

 

Vrable believed he was in such control of the refs by the second half, that he was seen telling the officials to pick up the flag on the Shakir simultaneous possession reception. 

[OldNMBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It doesn't matter if he is touched. If the ref considers the offensive player is giving himself up it is the end of the play. The refs would, rightly, have considered that in the case in question and allowed NE a time out. 

Exactly, people here like to invent new ways to hate on the coaching. 

Edited 31 minutes ago by OldNMBillsFan

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

I have seen more clock screw ups this year than any year I can recall in NFL officiating. How they came up with "errr..... put two seconds on" was indescribable. Total guess work. 

 

I don't think the play did take a full 6 seconds, I think Henderson probably had given himself up in time, but the officials had no clue. They just guessed. 

They absolutely just guessed. My other favorite was when they let Vrabel call where a Bills punt went out of bounds.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

yeah the :06 second thing was some serious home-cookin'

 

"DO YOUR JOB!"

 

The usual weird stuff that happens at Gillette Stadium. Old habits die hard. There's a still a lot of things stlll in place from the Belichick days.