dollars 2 donuts Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 38 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Agreed 100%. It's strange, the offense just feels smoother with him in there, even if he hasnt lit up the stat sheet yet. Allen trusts him Tomas (of course you know) and further honestly I am comfortable with him capping at 2 receptions a game (34) next year. Don't get me wrong, i would love more. However, I think even at 2 (maybe 3) a game he provides something valuable and unique compared to some of the other guys. ...with the Allen trust being so key. 1 Quote
BRH Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: That's what Micah Parsons went for. I can't remember the last time a player went for more than that. Jefferson is an equal caliber of player at an equally premium position. Like with the Parsons deal maybe we have to throw in some player as part of the deal. Those two first rounders that the Colts gave up for Sauce are creeping up the board every week. 1 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 4 hours ago, The Tomcat said: 2 firsts for Justin Jefferson! Moves like this set your franchise back. Most receivers are NFL ready or close to out of college. Draft a stud, virtually no cap hit, and save your other pick(s) or player(s) or both. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Craig Oi said: In most of the mock drafts that I have seen that have us taking a WR in the 1st it's been someone like Boston or another big tall red zone threat, not much speed in this draft ,what little there is will be long gone by the time we are on the clock , guessing mid 20's Yeah the top of this one isnt overly impressive, but a few id be ok taking where we usually draft. I think we need to trade for someoneestablished. Also Trey Lance has a younger brother that plays WR at N.Dakota (NDSU? or just NDakota, green and yellow team), Bryce Lance. Projected in 3rd-5th rd range. Seems like a guy we should be super interested in (as an option, not THE option). But overall, shocking how little speed there is coming outta this one. People won't like it, but I'm 1,000% OK taking a slot guy if the value is better overall there. We need a volume guy, needs to be durable. Shakir aint a volume guy. No hate on him, but Josh never looked better than when we had Beasley. Look what JSN brings to the table in Seattle. If someone like Makai Lemon falls anywhere near us, we need to go grab dude. Also, big fan of KC Concepcion! Edited 17 hours ago by BillsShredder83 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 16 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Moves like this set your franchise back. Most receivers are NFL ready or close to out of college. Draft a stud, virtually no cap hit, and save your other pick(s) or player(s) or both. Id be all for making a sizeable trade up to get the right guy in the draft, 100%. I do not know their is a guy like that coming out this year unfortunately 😕 Still some season left for some of these guys though, plus Senior Bowl. Not too late for someone to distance themselves from the pack 1 Quote
Augie Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 35 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Moves like this set your franchise back. Most receivers are NFL ready or close to out of college. Draft a stud, virtually no cap hit, and save your other pick(s) or player(s) or both. If we did a deal like that with multiple high picks I would immediately try to make a wager that a season ending injury was in his future. NOT wishing it upon anyone, but lets face it….. At least that way I get one win, unfortunately probably in the form of a bet won. Going all in is great, but only if you get it right and stay lucky. Or you could go bold by paying 4 players big and have nothing else to put around them, like the Bengals*. I didn’t hate the Von deal at all, but we’ll never know what might have been. He looked good until the injury. 🤷♂️ I do expect them to attack the WR position the way they did the OL, then the DL last year. I have no idea who, but I expect them to address WR more seriously in FA and the draft than they have in the past. The good news is two, or even one guy can move the needle. On the lines you need a bunch of guys, at WR we need A guy. * Speaking of the Bengals, NFLN just had the game replay on. It was shockingly obvious with a calm mind that Higgins was rocked after repeatedly banging his head on the ground. How was that allowed to continue? I don’t do sports channels on TV or radio the way I used to, but I hope that got some attention. 1 Quote
Tanoros Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 9 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: No. The Aiyuk from say 5 years ago,sure. But not now He is only 27 years old. And his last year before his injury he was looking really good. 1 Quote
KentuckyBillsFan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 12 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: People are enamored with the idea that the Bills should pick WR in 1st round. Only about 1 out of 5 chosen become 1,000 plus yard receivers and most don’t get there until 3 seasons in. I am not saying do not make the pick if a candidate is there. I’m simply saying that the pick is not a lock. No pick is a lock Quote
Richard Noggin Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Return of the Clap (sung to the tune of "Return of the Mack" OF COURSE) Quote
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago In the end, Josh Allen still needs to run for the team's any hope right now. Tell me any great QB who knows only that is the best way to keep a drive alive- It's not like the guy can't throw a ball. I still like our chaces this year- but god dammit - get the guy a very ***** excellent receiver next year and ONE goddamn Linebacker Quote
JohnNord Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 19 hours ago, Casey D said: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6876753/2025/12/10/buffalo-bills-wide-receivers-josh-allen/?source=athletic_user_shared_article_email&smid=em-share-ta Behind a paywall, but an interesting read. His basic take is that the Bills receiver room, while still not great, has evolved into something serviceable. Davis, Shakir and Shavers have settled in as the prime trio, with Shavers being the Hollins from 2024. Palmer should be the 4th when healthy, and then the issue is who is the 5th, Cooks or Coleman. Buscaglia feels Cooks brings better complementary skills than Coleman, so Coleman most likely to sit if Bills go with the usual five receivers. Room will need overhaul in 2026, but this group might be good enough for the Bills to be a force in playoffs. The frustrating thing about the WR room is that many of us saw this coming and wanted them to draft a WR high in the draft, and then another one mid-round. I think that Beane was overly optimistic that Coleman would be a force for them, thar Samuel could improve, and that Palmer would give them something they were lacking. Sadly none of these three scenarios panned out. The biggest problem on this roster is WR and they are holding back the offense led by an elite QB Quote
ScottishBills Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 13 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: People won't like it, but I'm 1,000% OK taking a slot guy if the value is better overall there. We need a volume guy, needs to be durable. Shakir aint a volume guy. No hate on him, but Josh never looked better than when we had Beasley. Look what JSN brings to the table in Seattle. Great point. There is a lot of chat here that we need outside guys, we already have a slot and very few available snaps there, Shakir is a top slot And yet week after week we see actual top players getting their biggest gains out the slot - JSN as you mention, Puka appearing from there, Amon Ra is well over 50% slot, Olave and Chase 30% out the slot, Devonta Smith over 40%, CeeDee 33%, Drake London over 40%? Any why? Because getting a talented player a free release is pretty pretty good People can argue over Shakir's talent level, but its undeniably a waste to use a whole set of snaps and those free releases to park a guy at the line of scrimmage surely? That release should surely be used to get that guy (whoever it is) down the field on occasion? *Not an Xs and Os or scheme guy, pretty basic knowledge, so happy to be shouted down if i have misunderstood what is going on here - but i definitely see top guys coming out the slot with no-one near them - so there should never be any argument to not get talented guys because we don't have slot snaps available. We dont get anywhere near enough out of that spot - as noted its not even as much as Beasley was getting - its a bunch of low ADOT plays where Shakir sometimes pinballs off guys and gets 8-15 yards (which he is pretty good at to be fair) 1 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Just give me Palmer, Hardman, Shakir, and Kincaid healthy for the tourney and we are good. Gabe, 14, and Knox are nice to have. We'll be on the road in any scenario, so just want to beat the Browns and Jets and I am good. Regular season is pretty much those two games. Who cares whether the Pats win the division.? Better they have a 1st place schedule next season. Edited 1 hour ago by ProcessTruster Quote
Jrb1979 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 16 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Moves like this set your franchise back. Most receivers are NFL ready or close to out of college. Draft a stud, virtually no cap hit, and save your other pick(s) or player(s) or both. I disagree. If that move gets to a Super Bowl championship, than it's all worth it. I don't care if in 2-3 years the team sucks and back to the drought era. Look at the Eagles, in 3 seasons from now they are going to be a bad football team due to all the big void contracts in 2028 and beyond. They won a Super Bowl so it was worth it. Quote
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