Game week thread - Bills at Patriots*

[pennstate10]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

I think this is wrong.  If the Pats*** beat Baltimore they would still own the tiebreaker over the Bills even if they lose to the Jets or Fish.

 

Edit:  here are the tiebreakers, with my comments should the Pats*** and Bills both finish 13-4 and the Pats*** lose to either NYJ or MIA:

 

To Break A Tie Within A Division

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

 

Two Clubs

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs) -- this would be even

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. -- this would be even

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. -- Pats*** win this tiebreaker, 10-2 vs. 11-3

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

Strength of victory in all games.

Strength of schedule in all games

Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.

Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.

Best net points in common games.

Best net points in all games.

Best net touchdowns in all games.

Coin toss

 

 

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. -- Pats*** win this tiebreaker, 10-2 vs. 11-3
 

I’m pretty sure that this is mathematically impossible. 12 can’t equal 14

[BearNorth]

49 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

The time of possession had nothing to do with it. It was getting dire before the pick 6 and even after the pick 6, they were only up like 3 with Burrow getting the ball back and up until that point their defense was struggling to stop Cincy.

We wasted a 7 minute drive when Cook fumbled not once but twice, losing the second in the endzone.

[boyst]

7 hours ago, Process said:

This is literally the Patriots schedule. Insane.

wait until you see their schedule for next year...

@bears

@lions

@chiefs

@chargers

@jaguars/texans (AFC South)

@rams (NFC West)

 

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a lot can happen until next year but those flights out west won't be fun. short week travels due to more night games will also be a factor.

 

 

 

conversely the Bills:

Home: 

KC

Lions

Bears

Chargers

AFCN (Ravens)

 

Away

Broncos

Vikings

Raiders

Packers

AFCS (Texans)

NFCW (Seahawks)

Edited 1 hour ago by boyst

[Matt_In_NH]

Bills win out then pats must lose to jets or fish.  The Baltimore game does not matter except it would allow the bills to lose to the eagles.  Still be would have to lose to a division team.  The loss in Miami is the mig problem here

 

Here is the good news.  If that were to happen then all you need is for Denver to lose two and the bills win the one seeds.  Denver plays GB KC LAC and JAgs so that could happen. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

wait until you see their schedule for next year...

@bears

@lions

@chiefs

@chargers

@jaguars/texans (AFC South)

@rams (NFC West)

 

home

Vikings

Packers

Broncos

Steelers (AFC North)

Raiders

 

a lot can happen until next year but those flights out west won't be fun. short week travels due to more night games will also be a factor.

 

 

 

conversely the Bills:

Home: 

KC

Lions

Bears

Chargers

AFCN (Ravens)

 

Away

Broncos

Vikings

Raiders

Packers

AFCS (Texans)

NFCW (Seahawks)

Can we not play the Texas at their house for once?

[Mango]

1 hour ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

My question is what happens if NE loses to us and Miami. All the while we win out. We would both be 13-4. We would both be 4-2 in the division. Both losing once to each other & Miami.

 

Do we win the division due to strength of schedule? 

 

Common opponents and I believe that Falcons/Texans bite us in the arse.

 

Unfortunately the best way to turn that in our favor is for NE to lose 2 of their next 3. But at that point we'd already have won more games anyways.

 

Out of pocket at the moment, but I believe that's the case.

 

 

[eball]

46 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

You are wrong.

 

If we both end up 13-4 and they lose to Dolphins/Jets, then we'd be tied in common games 11-3 and we'd win the seeding by conference games (all their losses are within conference, we have one loss vs Falcons).

 

As for common games tiebreaker, just look at the other games, it is easier. They are 2-1 (wins Giants, Titans, loss Raiders), we'd be 2-1 (wins Eagles, Chiefs, loss Texans). So it means same record in the common games. 

 

Ok, appreciate the breakdown.  I got my info from an ESPN article by Graziano this morning, so he has it wrong as well.

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Ok, appreciate the breakdown.  I got my info from an ESPN article by Graziano this morning, so he has it wrong as well.

 

Can’t stand Graziano.  He always seems miserable whenever he’s got to come to Buffalo, versus when he gets to report from the bigger markets.

[stlbills13]

I still am not convinced the Patriots are for real but playing them at their place when they've had a bye week to prepare, it's definitely going to be tough. 

[boyst]

15 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Can we not play the Texas at their house for once?

the Chiefs will play here for 4 years straight.

 

we played there 5 years straight - we have a chance to play there if they can match our divisional position next year.

[Walking Tall]

Toughest game of the year coming up. Patriots are the only team to take the Bills down in Orchard Park in almost two seasons. This one is in Foxboro and the Patriots are coming off their bye. The Patriots would love to clinch against the Bills. The Bills will come in with a chip on their shoulder.

 

Toss up game.

Edited 1 hour ago by Walking Tall

[boyst]

2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

With Benford. I got to think if 47 can shut down Chase he can do the same to Diggs. Maye doesn’t have other options  like Burrows did. 

Diggs is nothing like Chase.

 

Diggs is elusive and smarter than Chase - relying now on his knowledge and skill. 

 

McDaniels will pull and motion Diggs inside against the nickel, keeping someone outside for Benford.

[zow2]

I thought the Bills would be totally dialed in for these Cinci and New England games.  Cinci yesterday was closer than I thought it would be.  That was dicey for a while. I do feel like the Bills will beat New England this week and get their revenge.  We won't win the division but this will be like a playoff game for the Bills.

[RiotAct]

19 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Can we not play the Texas at their house for once?

we should just forfeit that game.

[atlbillsfan1975]

22 minutes ago, boyst said:

Diggs is nothing like Chase.

 

Diggs is elusive and smarter than Chase - relying now on his knowledge and skill. 

 

McDaniels will pull and motion Diggs inside against the nickel, keeping someone outside for Benford.

Hunter Henry is the next closest in targets at 69, Diggs has 79. After that it goes down to Hollins at 48 and Boutte at 39. Bills are the best defense covering TE’s. There is nothing to fear on NE’s offense. Maye is good, and McDaniels is an excellent cord, time for McD to show he has a game plan to shutdown the young QB. NE has had 2 weeks to prepare, it’s going to be a tough game for the D. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

wait until you see their schedule for next year...

@bears

@lions

@chiefs

@chargers

@jaguars/texans (AFC South)

@rams (NFC West)

 

home

Vikings

Packers

Broncos

Steelers (AFC North)

Raiders

 

a lot can happen until next year but those flights out west won't be fun. short week travels due to more night games will also be a factor.

 

 

 

conversely the Bills:

Home: 

KC

Lions

Bears

Chargers

AFCN (Ravens)

 

Away

Broncos

Vikings

Raiders

Packers

AFCS (Texans)

NFCW (Seahawks)

They almost unwittingly cheated parity with being absolutely dreadful then solid against an easy schedule and are gonna get hammered next year 

 

the schedule really kinda hurt them in the long run tbh…they should’ve had at least one more year of a 2nd place (or worse) division schedule and better draft order.  Of course if they end up winning the superbowl this year none of that matters and they will certainly have a chance 

Edited 42 minutes ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

They almost unwittingly cheated parity with being absolutely dreadful then solid against an easy schedule and are gonna get hammered next year 

 

the schedule really kinda hurt them in the long run tbh…they should’ve had at least one more year of a 2nd place (or worse) division schedule and better draft order.  Of course if they end up winning the superbowl this year none of that matters and they will certainly have a chance 

They peaked early and the schedule layout could be dreadful for them. Traveling west on short weeks against good defenses could be difficult. 

[Deadstroke]

2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

The time of possession had nothing to do with it. It was getting dire before the pick 6 and even after the pick 6, they were only up like 3 with Burrow getting the ball back and up until that point their defense was struggling to stop Cincy.

Check the yardage totals.  Seems to me that they were having their hands full stopping us from moving.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, Deadstroke said:

Check the yardage totals.  Seems to me that they were having their hands full stopping us from moving.

Couple flukey bad plays for each team and a couple ‘how the heck did they do that’ amazing plays…I think the result ended up exactly where it should’ve been adjusting for luck and whatever else tbh.  The burrow ints were bad but so was cook’s fumble and Ty Johnson randomly falling down, uncalled facemask on that Shakir third down screen then immediately stuffed on 4th and so on

[Buffalo Ballin]

I hate to break it to y'all.

 

We been in playoff mode since the Kansas City Chiefs game. Hell, maybe the week before that game. Y'know with us having terrible defense, ton of injuries, McD's mental short comings, and Joe Brady's useless screens to Shakir and designed hand offs on 3rd and 4th downs.