Which Class of 2018 QB Will Win a Super Bowl First? Will Go to the Super Bowl First?

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

Jackson - It won't be this year, none of the 4 will be this year but Lamar has the best coaching and probably is on the best roster of the four.

And Baltimore fans want Harbaugh fired like yesterday.

[ticketssince61]

4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson*

 

All still in the hunt this year. It kind of surprises me that a class this good is still waiting for its first SB appearance, now nearing the end of their collective 32 seasons of NFL football.

 

Two word answer:  "Patrick Mahomes" 

Edited 22 hours ago by ticketssince61

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said:

 

Two word answer:  "Patrick Mahomes" 

 

Referees putting back Josh Allen's first downs back by an extra foot 

 

That's my answer

 

Blind men kno the Chiefs have been getting bailed out for years they're not beating us by three touchdowns lol

Edited 22 hours ago by Buffalo716

[FireChans]

10 hours ago, CSBill said:

 

What evidence is there to say he has the best coaching?

 

Is this the staff that has had an MVP quality QB and running back the past few years, a top-tier Defense, etc., etc., and yet still can't get past the 1st round of the playoffs? And probably won't even make it this year.

 

Harbaugh is all media hype. 

They were in the AFCCG two years ago, which is just as far as we have gotten.

[SoMAn]

I believe the guy taken 3rd in the 2024 draft will get there first - and probably win. 

[Mr. WEO]

16 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

Jackson - It won't be this year, none of the 4 will be this year but Lamar has the best coaching and probably is on the best roster of the four.

 

Jackson is a terrible playoff QB.  

 

"Best coaching"??   Harbaugh has won 4 playoff games in the last 11 years (losing twice to the Bills).  McD has 7 in the past 5.  

 

Harbaugh is Baltimore's Mike Tomlin at this point--still eating free lunch off that SB win a million years ago.

[Taro Nimbus]

Rosen!

[dave mcbride]

17 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson*

 

All still in the hunt this year. It kind of surprises me that a class this good is still waiting for its first SB appearance, now nearing the end of their collective 32 seasons of NFL football. For comparison, the great Class of 1983 (Elway, Kelly, Marino) saw their first SB with Marino, then a couple with Elway, then already had one with Kelly by the end of their 8th season. (Yeah, and zero wins, but still.) And that's despite Kelly losing time to the USFL.

 

Right now I'm still sticking with Josh. I think the Bills patch it together and come back strong in the playoffs this year and the next couple years. But I can see a really good argument for any of the others too, particularly Darnold (that defense) and Lamar (those injuries won't last forever). Mayfield? I think he's a really good QB on a very average team.

 

*Josh Rosen exempted; he joins Todd Blackledge as a footnote to NFL history.

Hey, Tony Eason started in a super bowl! Also, Ken O’Brien was a legit good qb for a number of years.

[Homey D. Clown]

Josh Allen will win two superbowls similar in fashion to elway, just not for the Bills.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, Taro Nimbus said:

Rosen!

[GoBills808]

19 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I think harbaugh is absolutely a worse coach than Sean McDermott lol

 

They literally have five six seven pro bowlers and all pros every single year and fall short ... 

 

We beat them with less talent which is 100% coaching.. even in the first game of the year harbaugh tensed up and the team tensed up around him

 

Harbaugh is on a crazy hot seat just like Tomlin

 

they fall short because Lamar tends to play worse in the playoffs. that is not a coaching issue

 

if he can maintain or improve on his regular season form the ravens will make the SB 

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

they fall short because Lamar tends to play worse in the playoffs. that is not a coaching issue

 

if he can maintain or improve on his regular season form the ravens will make the SB 

It's not fair to just always blame it on Lamar.. it is a team game top to bottom .. and coaching has a huge impact... 

 

Seans been to more AFC championship games the last 6 years too

 

Harbaugh outside of one miracle playoff run where Joe flacco got crazy hot and led the team to the Super bowl is just very steady

 

He literally has teams with 5 6 7 pro bowlers every single year and always underachieves 

 

Even in week one you can see harbaugh tensing up on the sidelines late in the game.. and his team played tense... Sean stayed calm and his team played loose 

 

They're obviously both very good coaches but I think Sean does more with less 

 

And I think Josh Allen will be the first quarterback from the draft class to hoist the Lombardi

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[BRH]

On 12/4/2025 at 2:41 PM, The Frankish Reich said:

Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson*

 

All still in the hunt this year. It kind of surprises me that a class this good is still waiting for its first SB appearance, now nearing the end of their collective 32 seasons of NFL football. For comparison, the great Class of 1983 (Elway, Kelly, Marino) saw their first SB with Marino, then a couple with Elway, then already had one with Kelly by the end of their 8th season. (Yeah, and zero wins, but still.) And that's despite Kelly losing time to the USFL.

 

Right now I'm still sticking with Josh. I think the Bills patch it together and come back strong in the playoffs this year and the next couple years. But I can see a really good argument for any of the others too, particularly Darnold (that defense) and Lamar (those injuries won't last forever). Mayfield? I think he's a really good QB on a very average team.

 

*Josh Rosen exempted; he joins Todd Blackledge as a footnote to NFL history.

 

Don't forget, Tony Eason also got there in 1986.

 

I think if you go back to the mid-1980s you will see that there was really nobody else in the AFC, certainly not on the level of a Mahomes.  I was 14 in 1983 and I remember a ton of great '70s quarterbacks all retiring or losing effectiveness right around that time and not being replaced by anybody good.

 

- Terry Bradshaw in Pittsburgh -- Mark Malone succeeded him.  Mark Malone!

- Bert Jones in Baltimore/Indy -- they drafted Elway but traded him and were stuck with Art Schlichter and Mike Pagel

- Ken Stabler and Jim Plunkett in Oakland/LA -- replaced by Marc Wilson.  Marc Wilson! 

- Dan Pastorini in Houston -- replaced by Warren Moon, who had a great career but never made it, thanks in part to us

- Brian Sipe in Cleveland -- replaced by Paul McDonald.  Paul McDonald!

- Ken Anderson in Cincinnati -- they were working in Boomer Esiason, who did make it to a SB

- Dan Fouts in San Diego -- he hung around the longest, but the cupboard was bare when he retired (and even before that)

- Jim Zorn in Seattle -- Dave Krieg was decent but not great

- KC didn't have anybody at all

 

Buffalo (Fergy), New England (Steve Grogan), Miami (Bob Griese), the Jets (Richard Todd), and Denver (Craig Morton) had also lost or were losing longtime QBs, but they mostly hit the lottery in '83.  Everyone else was screwed, including KC who tried with Blackledge.

 

As others have pointed out, there was no Mahomes sitting around blocking the class of '83.  So this isn't that much of a surprise that the class of '18 hasn't gotten there (yet).

 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

Don't forget, Tony Eason also got there in 1986.

 

I think if you go back to the mid-1980s you will see that there was really nobody else in the AFC, certainly not on the level of a Mahomes.  I was 14 in 1983 and I remember a ton of great '70s quarterbacks all retiring or losing effectiveness right around that time and not being replaced by anybody good.

 

- Terry Bradshaw in Pittsburgh -- Mark Malone succeeded him.  Mark Malone!

- Bert Jones in Baltimore/Indy -- they drafted Elway but traded him and were stuck with Art Schlichter and Mike Pagel

- Ken Stabler and Jim Plunkett in Oakland/LA -- replaced by Marc Wilson.  Marc Wilson! 

- Dan Pastorini in Houston -- replaced by Warren Moon, who had a great career but never made it, thanks in part to us

- Brian Sipe in Cleveland -- replaced by Paul McDonald.  Paul McDonald!

- Ken Anderson in Cincinnati -- they were working in Boomer Esiason, who did make it to a SB

- Dan Fouts in San Diego -- he hung around the longest, but the cupboard was bare when he retired (and even before that)

- Jim Zorn in Seattle -- Dave Krieg was decent but not great

- KC didn't have anybody at all

 

Buffalo (Fergy), New England (Steve Grogan), Miami (Bob Griese), the Jets (Richard Todd), and Denver (Craig Morton) had also lost or were losing longtime QBs, but they mostly hit the lottery in '83.  Everyone else was screwed, including KC who tried with Blackledge.

 

As others have pointed out, there was no Mahomes sitting around blocking the class of '83.  So this isn't that much of a surprise that the class of '18 hasn't gotten there (yet).

 

 

There may not have been a Mahomes blocking the class of 83 but the NFC did. I think that was around the time the NFC won something like 12 or 13 Super Bowls in a row.  Back then many fans would consider the NFC championship game the real Super Bowl.

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

It's not fair to just always blame it on Lamar.. it is a team game top to bottom .. and coaching has a huge impact... 

 

Seans been to more AFC championship games the last 6 years too

 

Harbaugh outside of one miracle playoff run where Joe flacco got crazy hot and led the team to the Super bowl is just very steady

 

He literally has teams with 5 6 7 pro bowlers every single year and always underachieves 

 

Even in week one you can see harbaugh tensing up on the sidelines late in the game.. and his team played tense... Sean stayed calm and his team played loose 

 

They're obviously both very good coaches but I think Sean does more with less 

 

And I think Josh Allen will be the first quarterback from the draft class to hoist the Lombardi

ok so immediately Harbaugh won a SB w Flacco on a playoff heater that wasn't half as good as Allen's in 2021 so we can dismiss the idea that McDermott does more w less outright

 

as for Lamar, you realize he's bad in the playoffs...not just not good, but outright bad. talking 10TDs/7INTs 60%comp w 6 lost fumbles bad

[MJS]

Allen will be the only QB of those to go to or win a Superbowl.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

Allen will be the only QB of those to go to or win a Superbowl.

imo as soon as lamar overcomes his playoff struggles the ravens will be playing in SBs

[MJS]

On 12/4/2025 at 1:53 PM, frostbitmic said:

Jackson - It won't be this year, none of the 4 will be this year but Lamar has the best coaching and probably is on the best roster of the four.

Baltimore has significantly WORSE success in the postseason than the Bills. They can't even get past Buffalo, much less KC. Jackson plays significantly worse in the playoffs. He will never get past Allen, Mahomes, and Burrow to the superbowl. One or multiples of those QBs will always be there to get in the way.

[Gregg]

4 minutes ago, MJS said:

Allen will be the only QB of those to go to or win a Superbowl.

 

For which team?

[MJS]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

imo as soon as lamar overcomes his playoff struggles the ravens will be playing in SBs

I think Jackson is already going into the downswing of his career. What makes him special are his legs. He is a good passer as well, but without the threat of his legs, which will become less and less special as the years pass, he just won't have the ability to get it done. That's how I see it.

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

For which team?

Allen will play his entire career in Buffalo.