Raiders Fire OC Chip Kelly

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Would it shock anyone if Pete Carroll was 1 and done In Vegas, too?

 

Nope. Was horrible hire. And bringing Chip with him was clown show territory.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Would it shock anyone if Pete Carroll was 1 and done In Vegas, too?

Is that Chip Kelly?  Or just a generic RaiderFan?  Could be either. 😁

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, QB Bills said:

There was a time where I would have done anything for the Bills to hire him.

 

I believe his first game was that Monday night opener against Washington years back. That Eagles offense that night was nothing like I'd ever seen. It was like they were playing a different sport altogether.

 

He's just not on the cutting edge anymore.

 

Yep. It's the bolded. Where once he was the coming force he is now clearly yesterday's man.

8 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I dont agree about Carrol.  It's a really bad team.  He needs time.  

 

How much time can a guy in his 70s get? That is why it sucked as a hire. That was a multi year rebuild.... with a coach who is in his 70s. Nonsensical.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

How much time can a guy in his 70s get? That is why it sucked as a hire. That was a multi year rebuild.... with a coach who is in his 70s. Nonsensical.

Carroll got tired of wooing coeds, figured it was time to try a Vegas showgirl.

[Simon]

12 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Carroll got tired of wooing coeds, figured it was time to try a Vegas showgirl.

 

McDermott went through a phase like that also.

It's how he got The Clap.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

McDermott went through a phase like that also.

It's how he got The Clap.

Watch it!  I'm just gullible enough to believe it! 🤪

[Mr. WEO]

10 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Would it shock anyone if Pete Carroll was 1 and done In Vegas, too?

 

 

Gino Smith should go first.

 

9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

He was plenty successful in Philly.   The production he squeezed out of Nick Foles and March Sanchez at QB was insane in turning those Eagles into the best conditioned team the NFL has ever seen.  That training set their "players coach" Pederson up to steal a SB from NE soon after Chip's departure(with Foles, no less).

 

The team that should be interested are the Jets.  Not so much for his offensive design but because they have done a roster cleansing of sorts and Aaron Glenn could have Kelly come in and implement his Oregon training tactics to help give them a physical edge in a division with Allen and Maye otherwise blocking them.   They gotta' find their angle to make noise in the division because it's highly unlikely they find an Allen or Maye of their own.  The only star left to appease is Garrett Wilson and he's an Ohio State guy so Kelly is likely to have his blessing.

 

True.  The Chip Kelly takes here are pre-wrapped....

[SoonerBillsFan]

17 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

McDermott went through a phase like that also.

It's how he got The Clap.

[Captain Hindsight]

3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I don’t know how Carroll feels, but he’s a pretty vibrant 70. I think most of us would be pleased to be in Pete’s shape at that age 

Sure, but if the Bills brought back a 71 year old coach who was coming off a 4 win season, how would you feel about the next season?

 

Seattle moved on and they look like a SB contender 2 years later

[MJS]

5 hours ago, Buddy Hix said:

Even the Raiders act when necessary…

 

Our owner could give a ***** about winning football games.

You're putting the Bills with 7 wins and the Raiders with 2 wins in the same boat? The Bills literally have a winning record, so I think the owner clearly does care about winning.

[SoonerBillsFan]

Just now, MJS said:

You're putting the Bills with 7 wins and the Raiders with 2 wins in the same boat? The Bills literally have a winning record, so I think the owner clearly does care about winning.

We have a winning record because the GM lucked out  on picking the right QB

[TheBrownBear]

12 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Please don't anyone even say to bring him here...he has been terrible save for the first year with the Eagles as HC...every subsequent place he has been dreadful.

I'm a UCLA alum and I can attest to this.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

12 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Please don't anyone even say to bring him here...he has been terrible save for the first year with the Eagles as HC...every subsequent place he has been dreadful.

 

get er’ do…. I just can’t do it that guy is so overrated it’s ridiculous.

[LewPort71]

No to Chip.

Good college coach......not so good in the NFL

[dave mcbride]

28 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

I'm a UCLA alum and I can attest to this.

I'm a UCLA alum too and think that Kelly was the best thing that happened to that program in the last decade. UCLA's absolute ceiling is never going to be higher than 10-3, with a more realistic ceiling being 9-4. 8-5 is a good season for that program. They don't have the money, they don't have the commitment, the athletic dept is a mess, they don't have fans who show up to games given the stadium location, and they have long struggled to recruit 4 and 5 star recruits. The academic expectations are another issue. They were competitive with Kelly and had a pretty impressive run game. Kelly focused on 3-star recruits who fit within his system, which in my view was a realistic approach. In his last three seasons, they went 8-4, 9-4, and 8-5, with the fifth loss in the final season a result of a crazy ending vs Pitt in a bowl game. They didn't lose that game because of Kelly.  I feel confident in saying that that three-year run is probably going to be the best such run they have in the dozen years that follow after his departure.  

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6642637/2025/09/19/ucla-football-deshaun-foster-martin-jarmond/

 

"The biggest issue with UCLA football, according to more than a half-dozen sources The Athletic spoke to for this story, some of whom were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor, has been a lack of financial resources. The Bruins had never been USC when it came to money or commitment to football, and UCLA has piled up more than $200 million in athletic department debt in recent years. But that disparity — fractures of which showed throughout much of this century — became much more of a problem in 2021, once name, image and likeness arrived."

...

“Looking at the Chip regime through clear eyes, it was a major rebuild that took too long, at first,” one of Kelly’s assistants told The Athletic. “Then, we really turned the corner and were a top-20 program over the last three years, which is all you really can ask for any non-blue blood.”

 

But, the assistant continued, UCLA wanted more. The fans weren’t engaged — “Chip’s not the biggest fan engagement guy.” It became apparent UCLA folks were tired of Kelly, who didn’t replicate the success he’d had at Oregon before leaving for the NFL, and Kelly, program sources said, was tired of the entire dynamic, especially of [athletic director] Jarmond, who was hired two years after the coach arrived.

 

“You’re trying to sell the players on getting a great education and we can develop you as a player, but we didn’t have any money to pay them, and we were losing out on players,” said one position coach from Kelly’s staff at UCLA.

Edited 3 hours ago by dave mcbride

[JP51]

13 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Chip Kelly. Everywhere he went in the NFL, he didn't succeed.

 

Overrated by the media and supposed smart fans on Youtube.

I agree, he never really translated... plus I am still pissed he wouldnt even give us an interview when he was the hot NFL Head coaching commodity out of Oregon.

[TheBrownBear]

5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'm a UCLA alum too and think that Kelly was the best thing that happened to that program in the last decade. UCLA's absolute ceiling is never going to be higher than 10-3, with a more realistic ceiling being 9-4. 8-5 is a good season for that program. They don't have the money, they don't have the commitment, the athletic dept is a mess, they don't have fans who show up to games given the stadium location, and they have long struggled to recruit 4 and 5 star recruits. The academic expectations are another issue. They were competitive with Kelly and had a pretty impressive run game. Kelly focused on 3-star recruits who fit within his system, which in my view was a realistic approach. In his last three seasons, they went 8-4, 9-4, and 8-5, with the fifth loss in the final season a result of a crazy ending vs Pitt in a bowl game. They didn't lose that game because of Kelly.  I feel confident in saying that that three-year run is probably going to be the best such run they have in the dozen years that follow after his departure.  

You are the first UCLA alum I've seen with this take.  Chip was lazy, his recruiting was atrocious, he did minimal public interfacing and nothing to build excitement for the program which is why attendance absolutely cratered, and then he abandoned us at the worst time to take a coordinator position and left Foster (who was even worse, to be fair) without much in the way of talent.  One bowl win in 6 seasons.  Three winning seasons in six years. Finished ranked in the top 25 once and that was a season where he lost 3 of the last 4 including to that unranked Pitt team.  Outside of the disastrous Neuheisal era, Chip had the worst tenure of any coach since Donahue.

 

I don't disagree that UCLA is currently burdened with institutional limitations and the NIL has made the situation worse.  And we desperately need a new AD.  But I still think your expectations are too low.  Mora (whom I was happy to see go by the end) proved you could recruit elite talent to UCLA.

[dave mcbride]

6 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

You are the first UCLA alum I've seen with this take.  Chip was lazy, his recruiting was atrocious, he did minimal public interfacing and nothing to build excitement for the program which is why attendance absolutely cratered, and then he abandoned us at the worst time to take a coordinator position and left Foster (who was even worse, to be fair) without much in the way of talent.  One bowl win in 6 seasons.  Three winning seasons in six years. Finished ranked in the top 25 once and that was a season where he lost 3 of the last 4 including to that unranked Pitt team.  Outside of the disastrous Neuheisal era, Chip had the worst tenure of any coach since Donahue.

 

I don't disagree that UCLA is currently burdened with institutional limitations and the NIL has made the situation worse.  And we desperately need a new AD.  But I still think your expectations are too low.  Mora (whom I was happy to see go by the end) proved you could recruit elite talent to UCLA.

The attendance was terrible LONG before Chip. I also think that COVID is what really killed any tradition of attendance at UCLA games. The Rose Bowl is just too damn far from everything--32 miles from campus! He also took over a mess of a program and over time made them competitive. My expectations going forward are extremely low, to be sure, but I think my pessimism is warranted. They are simply not going to get 4 and 5-star recruits, and Kelly at least realized this. They aren't cut out to compete in the Big 10 either, and it's not because they're a former Pac-12 team. Washington, Oregon, and USC are all competitive. Partly because of the money situation UCLA is set up to be an absolute bottom feeder for some time going forward, down there with Maryland, Rutgers, etc.  

 

You are right about Mora, who DID get some top-20 recruiting classes. But that was a long time ago, and he was a far worse game-day coach than Kelly, in my opinion. 

Edited 2 hours ago by dave mcbride

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I could see Kelly coaching at mid tier college somewhere.

 

That's where his offense belongs 

Edited 1 hour ago by JakeFrommStateFarm

[Buddy Hix]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

You're putting the Bills with 7 wins and the Raiders with 2 wins in the same boat? The Bills literally have a winning record, so I think the owner clearly does care about winning.

No, I’m putting the Raiders ownership group in a better boat for making the changes required to improve.

 

Buffalo has a generational talent and the owner is content with the status quo…a home playoff game or two and selling PSLs.