According to Cover 1, Coleman will be a healthy scratch

[BillsFanForever19]

37 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I disagree, you cant miss how he does in the early rounds. 

 

I got news for you, if you look at the Drafts in previous years (especially if you want to go as far as back as, say, using Cody Ford as an example) - you're going to find that everyone has had misses. And a fair amount too if you go that far back. Especially when you consider where we're generally picking.

 

Look at the number of 2nd Round Picks we bring in to camp from other teams to Training Camp and the Practice Squad in recent years, for example. We just signed a guy in Phidarian Mathis to the active roster that was Washington's 2nd Round pick bust in 2022.

 

It feels like he misses a lot bc you focus on the Bills. But the fact is if you analyze every team's picks over the past 8 drafts - you're going to find a lot of misses in the first two picks. That's the nature of the Draft.

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Hope he likes southeast Nebraska 

There's really good junior college football out there don't make fun of Southeast Nebraska!

[NoSaint]

23 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

That's because the Bills tried to force him to be a #2 WR instead of a #4 WR

and now people are saying we are benching our WR getting the most reps, and at worst our WR2 currently, for Gabe Davis….

[Nuncha]

12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I got news for you, if you look at the Drafts in previous years (especially if you want to go as far as back as, say, using Cody Ford as an example) - you're going to find that everyone has had misses. And a fair amount too if you go that far back. Especially when you consider where we're generally picking.

 

Look at the number of 2nd Round Picks we bring in to camp from other teams to Training Camp and the Practice Squad in recent years, for example. We just signed a guy in Phidarian Mathis to the active roster that was Washington's 2nd Round pick bust in 2022.

 

It feels like he misses a lot bc you focus on the Bills. But the fact is if you analyze every team's picks over the past 8 drafts - you're going to find a lot of misses in the first two picks. That's the nature of the Draft.

Of course, every team has had misses. The ones here who think the Bills should hit on EVERY draft pick need to put down the crack pipe.

[GoBills808]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't think I would ever disagree with that 

 

He picks a lot of good football players..but you can't miss on your first pick in a draft and get Josh a wide receiver who's now in the doghouse 

 

Josh makes a lot of football players look good so to getting to the dog house Take some non-effort 

 

I would trade beans sixth round successes for second round successes because you're just getting better athletes typically in a more premium spot

Not counting this years rookie class we have Epenesa, Bishop, OCT and James Cook as 4 out of our last 6 second rd picks

 

So I'm not sure how you're defining success but I don't see a lot to complain about there

[Tanoros]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Questioning and validating sources is a good practice and something, frankly, people in our country need to do more of. Without getting political, I don’t see anything wrong with wondering how valid a reported source is for something that has been widely speculated. 
 

I am asking honestly, not trying to sully a name. C1 is generally not thought of as a proactive media outlet. They’re more of a responsive unit. 
 

And would it really knock their credibility if they were wrong? I can name a ton of millionaire media reporters, internet gurus, film junkies etc who have been wrong before yet people still post them like they’re gospel. 

Cover1 has Bills players on their some of their shows sometimes, meaning they have access to the Bills organization. Because of that, it’s not surprising they could get this kind of info. 

[BillsFan130]

2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Yes exactly

 

Breaking news/having sources I have no problem believing guys like Cover1. I question a lot of what they put out in their analysis because it invariably puts the FO in the best possible light

 

 

Ya overall they are good, but their last breakdown on the passing offence was bad ImO.

 

They were basically ripping on Josh for not taking 1-3 yard gajns on 2nd and 10 lol

[LEBills]

13 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I got news for you, if you look at the Drafts in previous years (especially if you want to go as far as back as, say, using Cody Ford as an example) - you're going to find that everyone has had misses. And a fair amount too if you go that far back. Especially when you consider where we're generally picking.

 

Look at the number of 2nd Round Picks we bring in to camp from other teams to Training Camp and the Practice Squad in recent years, for example. We just signed a guy in Phidarian Mathis to the active roster that was Washington's 2nd Round pick bust in 2022.

 

It feels like he misses a lot bc you focus on the Bills. But the fact is if you analyze every team's picks over the past 8 drafts - you're going to find a lot of misses in the first two picks. That's the nature of the Draft.

Yea everyone misses on picks to a degree. The GM that draft Phidarian Mathis is no longer a GM. Basically the only GM that has been tenured longer than him that hasn’t at least made a Super Bowl is Chris Ballard with the Colts.
 

Even acknowledging everyone has their whiffs, what picks he has had that have had success have not been significant enough to counteract the misses and get us where we need to go. 

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

But it's amazing how much, especially just 5 years ago, these same journalists put a lid on things or covered for inside info. The players only meeting, Whaley's bar fight and harassment, the Ryan's alcoholism. ...

There’s still a ton of stuff that gets swept under the rug.  One is a stunner - someone who has a great rep is a total phony and I had to believe the BNews knows and hid it.  

[Buffalo716]

23 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Not counting this years rookie class we have Epenesa, Bishop, OCT and James Cook as 4 out of our last 6 second rd picks

 

So I'm not sure how you're defining success but I don't see a lot to complain about there

Bishop was a whipping boy here last year... People were calling him a bust lol

 

Epensesa has been a whipping boy here for 5 years 

 

Bishop has tons of potential.. but AJ is what he is solid nothing spectacular, solid.. people have wanted to replace him for years 

 

Cody Ford , basham and Coleman straight misses round 2 now potentially 

 

The only pro bowler he has drafted in round two would be James Cook.. And he probably has three misses 

 

The bills need TJ Sanders to round into a really good football player... Our third round pick just lasted five snaps and done

 

He drafts some solid players but outside of cook has not given us a bona fide difference Maker in round two.. Spencer Brown was a great round three pick , but there's been a bunch of disappointments in the third round.. Bernard is solid always hurt and again is becoming a whipping boy here 

 

You just can't keep drafting Landon Jackson and Dwayne Carter round three either 

 

I've always liked AJ but he's not a borderline pro bowler.. the only true difference Maker we have drafted in the second round is Cook 

 

Torrance again solid.. he's not a pro bowl guard yet... He's not that dominant... But he's going to get paid like it by some team because he's protecting Allen

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 49 minutes ago by Buffalo716

[dcinmuncie]

10 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

There’s still a ton of stuff that gets swept under the rug.  One is a stunner - someone who has a great rep is a total phony and I had to believe the BNews knows and hid it.  

Bruh

 

you can’t leave us hanging 

 

who are you talking about? Without revealing your sources of course 

[Billsfanatic8989]

Two huge mistakes in one draft. First, scouting this guy and thinking he was going to be a good receiver. Second, you give your biggest rival a better receiver on a silver platter.

[Shortchaz]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Like I’m gonna burn who told me this.  I don’t blame you for asking, but give me a break.  
 

The thought is that Coleman is immature and can’t handle failure/disappointment.  They don’t think it’s going to work for him here. So they’re done.  Maybe he gets a jersey again, maybe he has to go back in and it’s a 180.  And he probably will be here for the rest of the year out of necessity.  But again, I was told they’re done. 

Oh man, I wish I knew that information before I put $5000 on Tampa without telling my wife 😬😬😬

[WotAGuy]

17 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

There’s still a ton of stuff that gets swept under the rug.  One is a stunner - someone who has a great rep is a total phony and I had to believe the BNews knows and hid it.  

Why would they report on someone’s personality being sincere or not?  National Enquirer - does that still exist?

[SectionC3]

Just now, WotAGuy said:

Why would they report on someone’s personality being sincere or not?  National Enquirer - does that still exist?

They reported on the incident but didn’t identify the “other” player who was present.  That’s as far as I’ll go. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

17 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Yea everyone misses on picks to a degree. The GM that draft Phidarian Mathis is no longer a GM. Basically the only GM that has been tenured longer than him that hasn’t at least made a Super Bowl is Chris Ballard with the Colts.
 

Even acknowledging everyone has their whiffs, what picks he has had that have had success have not been significant enough to counteract the misses and get us where we need to go. 

Howie Roseman has had some noticeable misses. But he has had way more hits. Like real hits that are All Pros and make them a SB contender. 

 

For Beane, his "successful" picks (sans Allen & Cook) are not game altering players. And when multiple picks are successful on the field, but mostly injured, I hold that against Beane. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

outside of cook has not given us a bona fide difference Maker in round two

O’Cyrus Torrence was a very good 2nd round pick but I do agree with your general sentiment 

[WotAGuy]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

They reported on the incident but didn’t identify the “other” player who was present.  That’s as far as I’ll go. 

See, this is why doing what you’ve done is just attention seeking. Putting out little clues but not making any sense - just STFU in the first place. Lol

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

O’Cyrus Torrence was a very good 2nd round pick but I do agree with your general sentiment 

I like Torrence a lot 

 

He's not a top 10 guard in the NFL.. but he's going to get paid like it 

 

So are you going to give him 5 years 98 million dollars? Because that's what he's going to get and he's not worth that 

 

He is solid he's not Zach Martin... Or even Ruben Brown 

 

He's not at a pro bowl level yet.. Robert hunt contract is a mistake... He's not a top 10 guard so he's solid but not worth what he's going to command

 

A pure guard pick in the second round in the modern NFL should be good.. you should get rid of all your scouts if they take a pure guard and he's terrible in round two if you can't play center or tackle.. so you're strictly a guard prospect with a second round grade you should be an NFL starter that's the baseline

 

But he's going to get paid like a perennial pro bowler or All pro and bills can't pay that

 

 

Edited 35 minutes ago by Buffalo716

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Steve Smith is right.
This was a terrible pick.