Stale

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The title says it all.  We’re stale.  We shorten games on our own, despite the fact that our D is decimated by injury.  But we also can’t play fast, because our WRs are trash.  It’s no fun right now, and nothing is easy.   It’s the first time I’ve seriously thought we might need a HC change since McD arrived.  The fire and the joy just aren’t there. 

[KentuckyBillsFan]

We 100% need a fresh start at GM and Coach. We have for years.. Instead we fiddled around, happy that the drought was over and wasted Allen's best years

[Mikie2times]

I said it in another thread but this team looks like a team that has had Super Bowl or bust expectations for years and come up short. It’s like they’re swimming against the tide this year. Nothing is easy. Everything is labored. 
 

How do you manage this team if you’re McD? What do you say to them? Put this one behind us men. One week at a time. Focus on how we play not our opponent. Whatever it is at this point I imagine it’s getting to be a harder sell. 

[UConn James]

In the NFL you need to re-invent yourself every season and every week. Not For Long. Other teams will know your tendencies, know your weaknesses, and exploit them.
 

McD & Beane are putting out the same schemes and signing the same players and we get the same result. 

[Mikie2times]

27 minutes ago, UConn James said:

In the NFL you need to re-invent yourself every season and every week. Not For Long. Other teams will know your tendencies, know your weaknesses, and exploit them.
 

McD & Beane are putting out the same schemes and signing the same players and we get the same result. 

I was thinking about this early. As far as how much of this is just teams adapting to what we are trying to do. It seems like the way to beat this team historically was make them nickle and dime you. Get in your two high shell. Make Allen dink and dunk, make them run. Well, that is actually what we have become as an identity now.
 

With no downfield threat of any kind why are you going to stay in that shell? Who in gods earth wouldn’t press our WR’s right now and put another body in the box. You can’t just say “we don’t need to do something” in this league. That goes for when Dorsey refused to run and take the check down just as much as Brady/Beane refusing to develop a downfield passing game. I don’t know what is with this team and its inability to just develop both elements. The foundation has been there for years, but we just go all in on one or the other and refuse to be balanced. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Mikie2times

[Psautcsk]

Do you think that Tampa defense will be able to replicate what the Dolphins just did to us? 

[Livinginthepast]

1 minute ago, Psautcsk said:

Do you think that Tampa defense will be able to replicate what the Dolphins just did to us? 

Easily. Another question, are we going to do anything different on offense to surprise them? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

[CSBill]

A few thoughts:

 

- We lost that game on the first series--not going for it on 4th and 1. The Fish had just had a sh!t show on their first series--looked awful, we bury them early with a conversion there, instead, we punt.

 

- Then again, the fourth & 1 play we did call was a complete disaster. Sometimes Brady is brilliant, and sometimes he3 turnovers is calls plays like a 2nd grader playing Madden.

 

- And even with all that, the three turnovers all in scoring position (while the game was still in reach) were what cost us any chance of winning. And all three by our best players. Hang on to the ball there, it's still a game.

[Since1981]

I called it what it is. a little stale. 9 yrs in, fresh eyes aren’t a crisis, they’re housekeeping. Happens in every business.

 

Meanwhile, WAY back on April 25, 2025, Beane was crapping on us:

”You guys are b——ing that we don’t have a receiver. I don’t get it…”

[Andy1]

6 hours ago, UConn James said:

In the NFL you need to re-invent yourself every season and every week. Not For Long. Other teams will know your tendencies, know your weaknesses, and exploit them.
 

McD & Beane are putting out the same schemes and signing the same players and we get the same result. 

This is it. The Bills seem to be the only team in the league that doesn’t care about speed at WR. Palmer was their answer but he has a history of injuries and it’s continuing here. Without talent at the outside receiver position, they are so limited in how they can move the ball. They depend on Kincaid for receptions. When he went down, they have nothing. Samuel, Shakir, Coleman, Moore, Shavers, Hawes & Knox don’t threaten anyone. They have become one dimensional on running the ball with Cook. Teams stack the box, stop Cook and one else can get open. Without talent, you need great scheme, but Brady isn’t providing that either. 

[colin]

I call it the rock paper scissors element of football.  We were scissors going deep all the time, so teams played rock w two high shells, now we went paper last year (and we really went paper with ten slots and no x wrs) and now teams are going scissors on us (press, crowd box, blitz) and we don't have an answer.

 

Part of it is the talent we have (no Palmer or better to break the crowd) and even more of it is philosophy and preparation.

 

Vs KC and even Baltimore we went in the bag and pulled out different plays and looks on o and d.  We had change ups but on o vs KC we were mainly establishing the run and playing match up games off of that.  Vs Baltimore once they cracked us open on d we went way more aggressive on o and hit some deep stuff outside, it stressed them and lead to a win.  Even in d vs bmore we changed it up late and got stops and a turnover.

 

Both teams on the field yesterday had a bunch of injuries to their better players.  The difference is one team just fired the gm, had a bit of extra rest, and the coach was coaching for his life vs a team that always pants him.  The other team spent their energy vs their Boogeyman team in an emotional win, and figured this was a game to feature different players, didn't have an answer to Miami's run d, and just sort of played random Madden offensive formations to try out their new material.

 

We are mentally the opposite of Baltimore.  They out size speed and talent other teams and front run with the best of them.  They fade when the other team can take the shots and their QB falters when the light gets brighter, but piles up stats when he's given room to run.  We play more smoke and mirrors and crumble with just weak plays and bad execution.  We tend to play better vs better opponents and Allen gets inspired when things are scarier on the bigger stage.

 

I think it's a bit of humble arrogance.  Bean showed it when he attacked a radio guy over his total failure at the wr position.  Our coaches show it by simply not bothering with a plan b, or the ability to make adjustments on the fly. 

 

Yesterday was the first opening drive we punted on this season, we had 6 TDS and a turnover going into this game, and stick azz Miami got us to punt.  We went down the field in the second half opening drive in a sclerotic force of will by Allen who pressed the issue too much and threw a horrible int to end it.  We can show out on scripted stuff, but we fade when the other team has an answer and we just don't seem to be able to change it up, it's like we show up with a limited play book every week.

 

I've seen this movie way too many times.  MCD and his teams have an absolute get trucked stinker one or two times every year.  It's always us in desperation forcing the issue on o, and the d letting the other team truck us with explosive run after explosive run.  Same script every time.

 

We lack some talent but this team wins or loses with the coaching.  It's just that simple.

[dorquemada]

It's bad coaching but it's also fragile players.  Are we going to be able to field 11 on D next week?

[T.E.]

I really dislike what they are as a team. Soft, lifeless, no fire whatsoever. It is obvious that they desperately need a complete culture change at this point along with a revamped roster. They had their chance and blew it. Time to give someone else a crack at it in the probably three-year window where Allen is still an elite QB.

Edited 1 hour ago by T.E.

[SoCal Deek]

8 minutes ago, T.E. said:

I really dislike what they are as a team. Soft, lifeless, no fire whatsoever. It is obvious that they desperately need a complete culture change at this point along with a revamped roster. They had theor chance and blew it. Time to give someone else a chance in the probably three-year window where Allen is still an elite QB.

This! 

[BillsFan692]

It's a sad, sad time in Buffalo. What an absolute shame for the fans. JA17 career is being washed away in real time.

 

What could be worse suffering for a fan base that already went through 4 SB losses in a row and a terrible 17 year playoff drought that followed?

 

Ruining the career of the fan bases favorite player of all time. Having an all world QB for a decade and blowing it completely.

 

How awful it is to be a fan of this team Im getting very tired indeed. It might be time for me to "hang em up" as a fan. Just being honest. It's miserable now and there is no more joy here.

[Donuts and Doritos]

 

Keep doing the same thing & expecting a different result 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

It's a sad, sad time in Buffalo. What an absolute shame for the fans. JA17 career is being washed away in real time.

 

What could be worse suffering for a fan base that already went through 4 SB losses in a row and a terrible 17 year playoff drought that followed?

 

Ruining the career of the fan bases favorite player of all time. Having an all world QB for a decade and blowing it completely.

 

How awful it is to be a fan of this team Im getting very tired indeed. It might be time for me to "hang em up" as a fan. Just being honest. It's miserable now and there is no more joy here.

 

Remember when the Bills broke the playoff drought. They made a video about it. The game in Miami they showed the owner's box, and you see Terry and Brandon sitting there watching the game. In the background Kim is pacing back and forth nervous as can be. She even admitted she took the wins and losses more personal than Terry. If she would have remained healthy, I wonder if McDermott and Beane would still be here or at the very least their jobs would be on the line. I don't think she would have accepted all of these years going by wasting 17's career without making a change. Terry seems fine with the status quo and won't make a change. I think if Kim were healthy there would be a good chance a change would have happened by now.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, Psautcsk said:

Do you think that Tampa defense will be able to replicate what the Dolphins just did to us? 

 

A bunch of similarities between Atlanta and Tampa. So I would say yes, we are in trouble. 

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, Psautcsk said:

Do you think that Tampa defense will be able to replicate what the Dolphins just did to us? 

If the dolphins and one of the worst defenses in the league dominated the Bills, then yes, Tampa will be able to. Anyone will. Brady won't adjust. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

This team is clearly regressing.