This regime is bad at picking offensive coordinators

[LarryMadman]

McDermott is only going to pick yes men for coordinators. Why do you think he and Daboll butted heads? Daboll wasnt going to bend the knee to this egomaniac.

[Bookie Man]

14 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Dorsey liked to fling it. It’s like the total opposite of Brady. D only gotta cover a partial area of the field though so it makes life harder

I mean more like the tempo and energy, not philosophy. 

[gobills404]

14 minutes ago, Walking Tall said:

I am not judging Brady with that slop Beane and McDermott have given him to work with. Cripes. It truly is an awful bunch.

Diggs, Davis, Cooper, and Palmer all saw their production fall off a cliff when Brady became their coordinator. MVS couldn’t get on the field and then immediately started out producing every Bills outside WR when he went to the Saints. Now Coleman’s production has also regressed and Shakir is basically just a gadget player. Brady’s passing scheme when it comes to WRs is absolutely putrid.

[Sojourner]

2 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Diggs, Davis, Cooper, and Palmer all saw their production fall off a cliff when Brady became their coordinator. MVS couldn’t get on the field and then immediately started out producing every Bills outside WR when he went to the Saints. Now Coleman’s production has also regressed and Shakir is basically just a gadget player. Brady’s passing scheme when it comes to WRs is absolutely putrid.

Pretty much. The talent level is below average but these guys have produced in similar if not worse situations, especially when you factor who was under center and in the backfield. 
 

Something’s got to give and it’s looking like Brady. 

[boyst]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

Ken Dorsey didn't care about developing a run game, and almost all of his pass routes were downfield.  It was explosive at times, but also inefficient and turned the ball over way too much.

 

Joe Brady has a creative run game.  But his entire pass scheme is about screens and quick 2-yard throws.  So if anything causes them to get behind the sticks, the offense is screwed and stalls-out.  

 

Why can't we just hire an OC that understands how to run a balanced NFL offense, instead of some gimmicky nonsense?

This means that both were under qualified at the time of employment and needed more experience. 

1 hour ago, Comebackkid said:

Daboll isnt the coordinator because he started going nuts with his play calling and was no

longer effective.    brady is because...right place, right time..along with bills brass didnt have to actually put work 

into finding one

the worst jets sweeps everrrr

Daboll isn't the HC because and McChump didn't see eye to eye. Daboll didn't drink the kool aid of clappy. Daboll was moving on disirregardless of being moved to HC. 

 

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh sure he is. It may be college or it may be the NFL. I’d wager whatever that he is a head coach next year. He has lots of opportunities.

100%. This is a HC and team that choose Dennison as an OC, dug Daboll out of the college ranks where he did so well he got a HC gig, went with the up and coming Dorsey who earned his chance.... Then when it came time to hire an OC to work with one of the best QBs in the league they just checked the room to see who was there... And got Brady. McDermott will not get anyone to challenge him or make him uncomfortable. From Frazier who was the most diplomatic and kindest person to numerous STC, and others... They leave and there is one common factor.

 

How could someone not be begging to come coach Allen?!?! McDermott is the gate keeper.

[808]

IMO i dont think legitimate OCs dont really want to work under mcdermott. 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He can’t mean that. He’s going to be a HC somewhere next year. I hope that the next guy builds the offense around Josh. I’d like to see the Bills clean house top to bottom. You can’t let these guys continue squandering Josh Allen.

Who’s making Brady their head coach next year and why?  Because he’s done such a great job in the NFL so far?

 

”Squandering Josh Allen” doesn’t look great in a resume 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

Who’s making Brady their head coach next year and why?  Because he’s done such a great job in the NFL so far?

 

”Squandering Josh Allen” doesn’t look great in a resume 

The Bills were 1st in yards and 2nd in points (I think) entering today. They did that despite having the worst WRs in the league. Do you think people, especially on the outside, think he’s failing? Of course not. If I had to guess it is LSU.

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He can’t mean that. He’s going to be a HC somewhere next year. I hope that the next guy builds the offense around Josh. I’d like to see the Bills clean house top to bottom. You can’t let these guys continue squandering Josh Allen.

But there’s one man who can make that call and you know that’s not going to happen.

 

McDermott knows how bad the offense sucks, and if it doesn’t get better next week I think we’re looking at a Dorsey situation all over again.   The problem is I’m Not sure who they replace him with.  There’s no “Brady” like there was in 2023

 

Kromer?

[TheBrownBear]

The offense is fine when we aren't turning the ball over.  Josh needs to get rid of it quicker and we can't turn the ball over. 

 

(Don't get me wrong - I want better receivers too)

[st pete gogolak]

Bills’ offense is basically Schroedinger’s cat.  It’s both alive and dead at the same time.  

[T master]

I think in a lot of ways it's the players . They got rid of some they never should have like Hollins he brought the emotion and still is in N.E. 

 

Which is something sorely missing in this team and I feel is why they were that much better last season ! t at times look as if they are just going through the motions .

 

Then when Hochet went down sad !!

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, Walking Tall said:

I’m not absolving Brady. However, we all know they have absolute horse ***** at WR and have for the past two seasons. They’ve actually have had success with that horse *****. A lot because of Allen. But I’d like to see this offense with higher end weapons. Hell, they run 3 tight end formation a lot. That is not good. Not when you have Josh Allen as our QB.

McDermott is like the boomer that buys a Corvette and only drives it under the speed limit 

[HappyDays]

I would summarize McDermott's failings as a head coach as "he doesn't step outside his comfort zone." The coordinator hires are emblematic of his leadership. He is so focused on rewarding process versus rewarding results. Babich and Dorsey and Brady were already in the building and "proved themselves" at least in his eyes so they automatically got the jobs. He could have hired Klint Kubiak if he wanted to. He could have hired Lou Anarumo or Brian Flores. But those are people he doesn't know personally and he wasn't willing to step outside his comfort zone. And there's absolutely no reason to give McDermott more swings. He keeps hiring people that feed into his worst instincts or don't have the power to stand up to him. So cut off the head or you're wasting your time.

 

[Kirby Jackson]

21 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

But there’s one man who can make that call and you know that’s not going to happen.

 

McDermott knows how bad the offense sucks, and if it doesn’t get better next week I think we’re looking at a Dorsey situation all over again.   The problem is I’m Not sure who they replace him with.  There’s no “Brady” like there was in 2023

 

Kromer?

That’s what I hope (I think). My guess is someone from the outside (Stefanski) but Kromer has earned a shot.

[Maine-iac]

If only we could find the coaches to get this offense to turn the ball over all the time and still score 30.   That's really the only time the offense fails when they're turning it over multiple times and leaving points on the field but that's definitely not on the players.  It's Brady's fault.

[Mikie2times]

43 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I would summarize McDermott's failings as a head coach as "he doesn't step outside his comfort zone." The coordinator hires are emblematic of his leadership. He is so focused on rewarding process versus rewarding results. Babich and Dorsey and Brady were already in the building and "proved themselves" at least in his eyes so they automatically got the jobs. He could have hired Klint Kubiak if he wanted to. He could have hired Lou Anarumo or Brian Flores. But those are people he doesn't know personally and he wasn't willing to step outside his comfort zone. And there's absolutely no reason to give McDermott more swings. He keeps hiring people that feed into his worst instincts or don't have the power to stand up to him. So cut off the head or you're wasting your time.

 

Agree, been saying it for awhile with these coordinators. We can have a lot of debates about McD. One topic I don't think his supporters can debate is he won't hire coaches that want control. Plenty of NFL coaches will let guys come in as experts and take over. The best ones will be required to have this environment to even consider the job. McD won't look at those guys. It's the same as the roster. We would rather promote from within than best man for the job. Our internal farm system of coaches and player development simply isn't good enough when other teams are looking at the entire league and best coach/player available.

[DuckyBoys]

Under Beane/McDermott nepotism is king

[Pecker]

3 hours ago, PayDaBill$ said:

I hate to say it but I can see Josh getting sick of the lack of support.  He’s a Ca kid with Ca family roots and a Ca wife.  Just sayin’!  This is starting to look and feel like a dead end.  He sure as ***** hasn’t looked happy at times this year. In fact he’s looked pretty frustrated.

 

 

 

 

My biggest fear. 

2 hours ago, gobills404 said:

Imagine if he used our $53M slot WR like an actual slot WR instead of a gadget player. Crazy idea I know.

Kinkaid is the slot WR in this offense 

[GerstAusGosheim]

3 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

Daboll was not a yes man, Brady is, and that’s why he’s the OC. 

 

Sean hated the only good OC we had and pushed out the only good DC we had. And replaced both rookie OC/DCs.