11/9/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins Post Game Thread

[rjbbills]

Well boys and girls, not much film to watch from that one. Was it a night out on the town Saturday night? 

[DapperCam]

5 minutes ago, Real McClappy said:

This team can't afford 3 turnovers when the passing game is this brutal.  Game could have looked a lot different if we just play clean. 

Quite frankly the game was already a blow out when Cook had the first turnover, and the final fumble had zero impact on the result of the game.

 

The fact that getting a first down looks like pulling teeth is much more relevant to me.

[GroteStreet]

8 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said:

I think Pegula cares a lot more about the Bills than the Sabres, but unfortunately there are very few moves he can make this year. 

 

We really, really should have overpaid with draft picks for some guys at the deadline, and probably even before the deadline. Unless things turn around this year and we somehow find a way to make all the pieces fit, I'm afraid next year will be genuinely bleak. 

 

If we miss the playoffs this year, the wheels come off entirely. 

If it takes the wheels falling off to convince pegula to fire mcbeane then i am all for it.  

the best this team will do going forward with Brandon and clappy is a wild card birth and 1st round playoff exit.

[Mrbojanglezs]

Not surprised. I'm the least interested in this year's team since before we drafted Allen. Just more of the same to eventually lose in January. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Assuming Palmer comes back, you gotta start making a move to Samuel on the other side. We have 2 guys that can get open outside and they never play. Get Colman off the field. You play Palmer and Samuel with Shakir inside. Or you play Moore and Samuel out there but cmon with this bull####. You wanna rotate in Colman and Gabe Davis here and there fine. But put the guys on the field that can use speed to get open. Both 18 and 1 are way better than they look in this offense. The snaps for Colman and Shavers need to be in the single digits 

[CincyBillsFan]

I know this may not be a popular take but IMO when McD refused to go for it on 4th & half a yard on the Bills first possession it set a tone that the Bills never recovered from.

 

KC, Detroit, Baltimore, NE, and a half a dozen other teams would have rolled the dice there.  

[vincec]

Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Assuming Palmer comes back, you gotta start making a move to Samuel on the other side. We have 2 guys that can get open outside and they never play. Get Colman off the field. You play Palmer and Samuel with Shakir inside. Or you play Moore and Samuel out there but cmon with this bull####. You wanna rotate in Colman and Gabe Davis here and there fine. But put the guys on the field that can use speed to get open. Both 18 and 1 are way better than they look in this offense. The snaps for Colman and Shavers need to be in the single digits 

I seriously doubt Moore and Samuel are the answer. Don’t know about Palmer since he’s barely played.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, CincyBillsFan said:

I know this may not be a popular take but IMO when McD refused to go for it on 4th & half a yard on the Bills first possession it set a tone that the Bills never recovered from.

 

KC, Detroit, Baltimore, NE, and a half a dozen other teams would have rolled the dice there.  

That's literally not statistically true 

 

Find me one time when Baltimore or Kansas City went for it on 4th and one from their own 30 on the first drive of the game 

 

Baltimore punted it to us on 4th and two from their 35 with the game on the line

[Yobogoya!]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I know this may not be a popular take but IMO when McD refused to go for it on 4th & half a yard on the Bills first possession it set a tone that the Bills never recovered from.

 

KC, Detroit, Baltimore, NE, and a half a dozen other teams would have rolled the dice there.  

 

Coaches like Campbell and Vrabel don't even think that's a roll of the dice. 

 

It's an expectation. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

10 minutes ago, Pete said:

I head that.  Luke you are full of *****.  Josh put his heart and soul in that game.  He took huge shots extending plays.  Even Josh can get frustrated.  WRs can’t get open. WRs are not where they are supposed to- Keon deep ball should of gotten to spot and turn head inside, 3rd down pass to Shakir, Josh led him, interception in end zone was on Knox- frustrating!

Idk what the callers said but from my own perspective, it is absolutely fine to criticize Allen’s play. He did not execute at the level he needs to in order for this team to win. It was by far his worst game in a long time, despite the garbage time passing numbers. That does not mean he isn’t elite, and that there are many other factors at play, but those ailments don’t excuse his lack of execution too. He’d be the first to tell you,

[finn]

22 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I had trouble watching 2nd half. So didn't see all. 

 

Brady was just tone deaf all day. Empty on 2nd and 4 in 1st quarter? 

 

Poor tackling was silly. Again, we often had plays sniffed out only to not wrap bounce off dudes or take crazy bad angles. 

 

Linebackers are a huge problem. Milano and Bernard look done. Tre was pathetic. 

 

Turnovers were crazy. Bad turnovers. Allen's fumble was just dumb. Go down. 

 

Allen's INT in endzone was a killer dumb throw. 

 

WRs were bad. Keone struggling. 

 

Just horrible effort here today. 

 

 

I don't agree Coleman is struggling. He's not even trying. Another Kelvin Benjamin. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I know this may not be a popular take but IMO when McD refused to go for it on 4th & half a yard on the Bills first possession it set a tone that the Bills never recovered from.

 

KC, Detroit, Baltimore, NE, and a half a dozen other teams would have rolled the dice there.  

an absolute bizarre move. 

[bills742]

 

 

[T&C]

5 minutes ago, rjbbills said:

Well boys and girls, not much film to watch from that one. Was it a night out on the town Saturday night? 

Like SB25?

[Carmel Corn]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I know this may not be a popular take but IMO when McD refused to go for it on 4th & half a yard on the Bills first possession it set a tone that the Bills never recovered from.

 

KC, Detroit, Baltimore, NE, and a half a dozen other teams would have rolled the dice there.  

Maybe he didn’t want Brady to call for a ridiculous 20 yard downfield pass for a 4th & 1….cuz that’s how stupid Brady is!

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

That's literally not statistically true 

 

Find me one time when Baltimore or Kansas City went for it on 4th and one from their own 30 on the first drive of the game 

 

Baltimore punted it to us on 4th and two from their 35 with the game on the line

4th and 2 is not the same as 4th and half a yard.  

 

In this game the Bills had a great opening defensive series and I believe Allen had a 95% of converting that 4th down with a tush push.  It would not have taken much to get Miami to fold their hand.  And if the Bills didn't get it Miami drives 40 yards for a TD in half the time they used to drive 92 yards for the TD after the Bills punt.

 

 

[PayDaBill$]

2 minutes ago, finn said:

I don't agree Coleman is struggling. He's not even trying. Another Kelvin Benjamin. 

Exactly I watched him run routes it’s pathetic 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

3 minutes ago, vincec said:

I seriously doubt Moore and Samuel are the answer. Don’t know about Palmer since he’s barely played.

You have very little other options right now and I don’t want to see Colman again. Whether it’s usage or not, the plan for him isn’t working. If it’s the bills fault, fine. Just get him off the field 

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I know this may not be a popular take but IMO when McD refused to go for it on 4th & half a yard on the Bills first possession it set a tone that the Bills never recovered from.

 

KC, Detroit, Baltimore, NE, and a half a dozen other teams would have rolled the dice there.  

We did nothing with either TUA pick.

 

The Fins went on a long scoring drive that took any momentum back.

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

4th and 2 is not the same as 4th and half a yard.  

 

In this game the Bills had a great opening defensive series and I believe Allen had a 95% of converting that 4th down with a tush push.  It would not have taken much to get Miami to fold their hand.  And if the Bills didn't get it Miami drives 40 yards for a TD in half the time they used to drive 92 yards for the TD after the Bills punt.

 

 

I don't think you could show an actual instance where the Chiefs or the Ravens went for it on 4th and one from their 30 on the first drive of the game 

 

Statistics just don't back up that claim 

 

Now if you can show where they did that would be a different story... I'm just saying statistically Andy Reid does not go for that on the first drive of the game from his own 30

 

You could say it's a weak call but Andy Reid isnt doing that the first drive from the 30.. if you hit the 50 it changes not from the 30

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716