Steptide Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Outside of adding a super star (which probably wasn't realistic) I'm not sure who the bills could've traded for that would've made a big impact. I agree with most fans that the bills need a true number 1 receiver, I just don't think it was attainable through trade, at least not in the middle of the season. I think at this point, we just really need to hope guys like Coleman and Samuel really step it up Quote
dwight in philly Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 26 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: the fact that the chiefs added no one and neither did the patriots was a win. I think that is very true! .. Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: There’s always a deal to be had but does it make sense? We don’t know what they were offering on Wilson or Waddle or Olave. If the Dolphins said, 2 1’s for Waddle would you do it? That’s too rich for me. I would have for Wilson but apparently they didn’t want to deal with division teams (guessing that was the Pats too). The Bills are one of the best few teams in football. The only contenders that improved today are Seattle, Philly and Indy. It’s not like the elite teams all improved while the Bills stayed still. I’ve been pounding the table to “make a move” as much as anyone. There wasn’t one that moved the needle. Just sit on your hands and do nothing,satisfied that you didn’t jeopardize draft capital. With the best arm talent QB in football we don’t have #1or #2 receiver. With your best D-tackles going down for the season, after signing 2 PED players, he does zero to fill holes. Beane is in a comfort zone with a fanbase that doesn’t really care about championships. Hey, the new stadium is coming. 1 Quote
tigerthelion Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I’m disappointed, but Beane didn’t have much cap to work with. I was hoping he’d swing for the fences, but after reviewing the cap ramifications of going all in, I realize, sadly, that Beane didn’t have the cap room to get done what we needed done. I think Beane & Co were hoping Hoecht and Ogunjobi were the shot in the arm the D needed. He could free up room if he wanted to. Lot of wasted cap money spent on decent, not great players, to be honest. Howie Roseman always finds a way. Oh well. Let's hope Josh Allen and James Cook go ballistic. Quote
Sestak4ever Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago We are dealing from a position of strength. Meanwhile teams like Miami, and possibly Arizona are stuck with giant qb contracts and were not very forward looking at unloading dead weight from losing teams. Miami still has Chubbs huge contract also. Many of these teams will lose players to free agency and get nothing for them. The Jets actually made decent deals to move forward. Just my thoughts. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Seems BB inquired about Olave. Other WR were not upgrades.DL is a bit surprising but just don’t know what offers were available. If they play well with what they have the Bills can win it all. Quote
ndirish1978 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I didn't particularly care about signing a WR, but I am surprised we did not do something on the DL. We have like 2 healthy DTs. That's pretty disappointing. 2 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 14 minutes ago, vincec said: Sounds good as long as you hit on the draft picks. I think this is it, people have seen way too many misses recently. 1 Quote
LEBills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On to asking for a first round WR in the 2026 draft again. Realistically, the trade deadline didn’t have much to offer the Bills. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: The lack of cap space is entirely on Beane's watch, so you can't exactly give him a pass there. Knox is taking up $14.5mil to block, Samuel is taking $9mil to sit, Bass is taking a cool $4.6mil to watch his replacement be just as effective for 1/5 of the price... Oh and then there's Von's $15mil of dead waste. And all teams have some albatross on the books, for sure. But all of those contracts were a bit sus at the time they happened, and then aged like vinegar since then. I don't blame Beane for not making a move today, but there's plenty to criticize in the last few off seasons that got us here. I fully agree that our failed WR group and the wasted money on Samuels amongst others is completely on Beane. I don’t give him a pass on those failed moves, all I’m saying is I understand financially why he wasn’t able to make a move today. I guess we have to hope that a healthy Davis can at least be a healthy upgrade on Shavers. I still would like to see us sign Asante Samuel to the PS to see if he is healthy enough to add depth. Edited 4 hours ago by GASabresIUFan 1 Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Very surprised. I was hoping for maybe a Jeudy at WR. Would have loved Williams but no way Jets were trading within the division. The guy did nothing because the fanbase supports ineptitude. 2 years we don’t have a legitimate #1or #2 receiver. We lose 3 D_tackles long term and he does nothing. We lose our starting safety, he stands pat. I’m sorry, his drafts suck,why are we afraid of bringing in a good player for draft choices that don’t pan out. 1 1 1 Quote
Urban Achievers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Hey Beane did he call you? Who? Deeze xxxx! Quote
Virgil Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Lots of activity today and some major moves. Of the Bills competition the Colts got better but gave up a ton for Sauce. Other than that, it feels like the NFC teams really improved more. I’m on record as thinking that the Bills had to add a boundary WR. The Shaheed comp felt doable but probably had to pay a higher price than Seattle based on where the picks will be. Otherwise, it doesn’t seem like a deal was there to be had. I know that the Bills were active and that’s what I ask of them. Don’t be too arrogant to think that you’re good enough in a spot where you clearly suck. They made the calls and tried to make deals. It takes 2 to tango and you have to be smart. I’m not going to hold this deadline against Beane. Now, it may blow up in his face if they fall short of the Super Bowl but he did try. How do we know they were active? To me, calling to check in is not being active. Making offers, negotiating, or getting outbid is being active. Not dumping on you, just sharing my thoughts. Here’s why I was willing to trade a 1st and possibly more for a WR1. This upcoming draft doesn’t seem to be WR heavy. We also swing and miss at our last WR in the draft. Samuel hasn’t worked out and Palmer seems to be just a speed guy, not so much a route/speed/boundary guy So, to me, to get a proven guy with a cheap contract for the next year or two, knowing Samuel/Knox’s contracts will be less by the time comes to resign the new receiver, it was a no brainer. We don’t have anyone that draws a double team or makes a defense afraid at receiver. We need that in crucial situations, if only just to free up someone else to make a play. Also, if not now, then when l? Edited 4 hours ago by Virgil 5 Quote
habes1280 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 29 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I don't think it's hubris. Had the Bills been able to stay healthy...particularly on defense...fewer folks would be complaining. As to our offense. Our two losses were a result of Brady not using Cook. Hopefully the balance we saw offensively on Sunday carries forward. Having said that, I do believe that Beane genuinely tried to acquire a top-notch player. Unfortunately, the main seller was in our division and in the other rumors we heard about , the players weren't ultimately available. We can't always use Cook. That's kind of the point. There are times when, to extend a drive on third and long or to stay in a game down multiple scores, you have to be able to pass the ball downfield. The games we lost were games when we needed a passing threat and found we didn't have it. I'm all for using Cook prodigiously, but when we can't, we need to have alternatives. I take your larger point. I'm sure the front office was working the phones and I don't doubt that they tried, this just seemed like the year to take a big swing, even if it meant overpaying. They are so clearly "one piece away"-- the o-line is intact (which may not be the case next year), the running game is sound, the TEs are solid, the defense is enduring/emerging, and Allen is everything we could possibly want-- why not push your chips into the center of the table for a reliable separator? 1 Quote
thronethinker Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Colts, man they really think that Daniel Jones is going to win a Super Bowl, let alone a playoff game. Quote
mjt328 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Many NFL GMs seriously overvalue draft picks, and Brandon Beane unfortunately falls among that group. If you listen to Beane's pressers after the draft, he will readily admit how difficult it is to obtain a high-level impact prospect (even in the 1st Round) when picking in the mid/late 20s. Pretty much everyone we pick 4th Round and later is either depth, special teams, or iffy at even making the roster. But when it comes time to possibly trade one of those draft picks for a proven veteran... he holds onto them like they are gold. Think about the hot names we heard over the last couple days. Jaylen Waddle was the 6th overall pick in 2021. Chris Olave was the 11th overall pick in 2022. We never had the slightest shot to draft either one where we were picking. Both have been fairly productive in the NFL. Yet only a few short years into their careers, Beane (and many other GMs) scoff at the idea of spending a 1st to obtain someone of that caliber. They would rather take their chances with picking someone like Keon Coleman - who less than 20 months after getting drafted wouldn't fetch a Day 2 selection. As a rebuilding team, it was smart for the Jets to do what they did today. It gives them more ammo to go after a potential franchise QB in the upcoming draft, which is the starting point for turning things around. But honestly, even with all those picks... what are the odds they land another CB or DT close to the talent level of Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Williams? The Rams figured this out several seasons ago, and traded their way to a Super Bowl championship. The Eagles are notoriously willing to part with draft picks to stack an already loaded roster, and it's paid off huge for them. Teams that are close need to be buyers, because they can obtain elite/proven players in exchange for picks that probably won't come close to playing at that level. It's absolute madness that more teams haven't figured this out yet. 3 3 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 12 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said: Just sit on your hands and do nothing,satisfied that you didn’t jeopardize draft capital. With the best arm talent QB in football we don’t have #1or #2 receiver. With your best D-tackles going down for the season, after signing 2 PED players, he does zero to fill holes. Beane is in a comfort zone with a fanbase that doesn’t really care about championships. Hey, the new stadium is coming. Beane doesn't answer to the fans. The fanbase absolutely does care about championships. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I was hoping for a home run with an addition of Lawrence or Simmons but that was not a reality. I have to say I am glad they didn’t burn a third round pick for a half season rental. I thought maybe they would add another veteran linebacker or corner as depth in case of injuries but I guess they can find that level player on a practice squad somewhere if it comes to that. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said: Just sit on your hands and do nothing,satisfied that you didn’t jeopardize draft capital. With the best arm talent QB in football we don’t have #1or #2 receiver. With your best D-tackles going down for the season, after signing 2 PED players, he does zero to fill holes. Beane is in a comfort zone with a fanbase that doesn’t really care about championships. Hey, the new stadium is coming. Lol, no. That’s not my opinion, at all. 🤣🤣 You tell me the specific deals that you would have made and we can discuss. I’m on record as willing to pay that 4th and 5th for Shaheed. I’m assuming the Bills would have needed more as those picks will probably be later than Seattle’s. Maybe I would have paid the 4th & 5th needed for Meyers. Otherwise, there wasn’t a deal to be done that we know about. They were trying to get BTJ. I don’t know what the compensation would have been but there’s certainly a line. My line might have been past Beane’s (eg: I might have tried for that Shaheed deal) but there’s no such thing as “whatever the cost is.” If they wanted 2 firsts for BTJ (for example) no way. So I’m asking you, and everyone else in the “do something” camp to be really specific as to what you would have done AND where your line was on those deals? 1 2 Quote
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