10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers post game thread

[finn]

1 hour ago, bmur66 said:

Hairston was stuck on his man like glue. Looks like the real deal. Made a nice tackle too.

I saw Hancock in on a few tackles, too. Maybe a youth movement will save the day in the secondary if Poyer falters. Bishop, Hancock, Hairston, and Benford. Could happen sooner than we think. Too bad about Strong. 

[Comebackkid]

7 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

If that is true, they are blocking for all the running going on. Maybe the pass game isn't as much of a tire fire as everyone is thinking and that was the game plan all along? Apparently, Kincaid had half as many snaps as the rookie. Hmm...

oh it was a total smash mouth RB game plan but even at that you should have a bit of a passing game side dish to go with it.    

Kincaid may have been in part due to him just coming back from injury.

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I thought he looked OK until he was running behind the backup OL.

He had a couple of ok 4 1/2 yard runs but he seems incapable of a big run. He looks REALLY slow to me. Like the late-career Anthony “A-Train” Thomas kinda slow.

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

He looks REALLY slow to me. Like the late-career Anthony “A-Train” Thomas kinda slow.

 

You're not the only person that's said that but I'm not really seeing it.

I think he just looks slow in relation to Cook, but so does almost everybody else.

[Rockinon]

2 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

He did, especially that throw to Moore. My guess is that the lack of quality WR's has affected his mental game....

I think it's a trust issue. Some of these are WRs 2nd and 3rd string. They need reps to build trust from Josh. Historically, Josh isn't afraid to throw to tight windows but he is trying to eliminate bad mistakes which again could be he simply hasn't built up enough trust. That usually comes from more reps but these guys are secondary players. Maybe we begin to see an improvement. Coleman though, he's been getting the reps. You'd think he would be getting the ball more.

6 minutes ago, finn said:

I saw Hancock in on a few tackles, too. Maybe a youth movement will save the day in the secondary if Poyer falters. Bishop, Hancock, Hairston, and Benford. Could happen sooner than we think. Too bad about Strong. 

I think Poyer is a steadying piece, a coach on the field. Perhaps he can pass some wisdom on to the youngsters. Hancock is just naturally gifted and will only get better.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Where do the Bills fall in the AFC in your opinion?

 

Think they're behind 

 

KC

Indianapolis 

Denver 

New England 

 

And on par with

 

Pittsburgh 

Chargers 

 

Sixth best?

 

[KOKBILLS]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

You're not the only person that's said that but I'm not really seeing it.

I think he just looks slow in relation to Cook, but so does almost everybody else.

 

Agreed... it's the contrast and the vision compared to Cook... It would make almost any back look slow in comparison.

To me Ray has looked indecisive in the backfield since camp this year... I don't think he's lost anything. Just looks to me like he's in his head a bit. Not sure though... Last year it seemed to me like Ray was going downhill a lot especially on those gap runs... Not seeing the same plant and go early on this year.. 

[Dr. K]

39 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

Yeah.  Something seems off.  There were a couple of passes in the first half, with open receivers, that Josh missed BADLY.

Definitely not his best performance; I'm just glad we didn't need it. 

 

The game was reassuring in many areas, in particular the defense, but I do think the team could use a receiver who at least exhibits some A-level skills. It could really help the offense.  

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

8 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Where do the Bills fall in the AFC in your opinion?

 

Think they're behind 

 

KC

Indianapolis 

Denver 

New England 

 

And on par with

 

Pittsburgh 

Chargers 

 

Sixth best?

 

It’s the same thing as it is every year 

 

chiefs and bills and everyone else. Figure out how to stop them or we will be here forever 

[CincyBillsFan]

54 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Kincaid was out snapped by Hawes today 34-14. I think the success of the running game had a lot to do with Dalton's lack of targets 

They also were load managing his return from injury.  This is very frustrating to fans but hopefully over the fullness of a season it will pay off.

 

 

[Simon]

5 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

To me Ray has looked indecisive in the backfield since camp this year

 

I mumbled virtually the same exact thing to myself at one point today.

He's overthinking it instead of just attacking it.

[Dan Darragh]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

A good "get right" game before the Chiefs. Hopefully, we have a new outside WR next week making their debut. 

"their" debut?  You're thinking that the Bills might trade for a girl?

[CirclnWagons]

Any win in the NFL is a huge win. Run game looked great today. Defense seemed to remember they’re supposed to be tackling the people in the other colored jerseys and it’s good to be back on the W side of the column again. We still however do not have a #1 receiver. We have a defense that can’t stop the run and is mediocre at absolute best in pass coverage. I really hope this is not the excuse McClapper and the Beane need to not do anything before the deadline. Not ready to go back to holding my breath for the wildcard while josh still has good years left 

[Dan Darragh]

2 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

Still hoping Beane pulls the trigger on a trade for WR.  Cook looks fantastic as usual but receivers still struggling to separate and Josh looks frustrated.  Moore is terrible and I doubt he's playing on most other teams. With Palmer out, we really have nothing on the outside.

Credit where credit is due - Moore had the block of the day on Shakir's TD.

[jlatas]

I must have missed the announcement before the game but did we know that Bernard was gonna be OUT for the game?

[Simon]

Just now, jlatas said:

I must have missed the announcement before the game but did we know that Bernard was gonna be OUT for the game?

 

He was dressed but they said he was only available in case of emergency.

[Shortchaz]

12 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Where do the Bills fall in the AFC in your opinion?

 

Think they're behind 

 

KC

Indianapolis 

Denver 

New England 

 

And on par with

 

Pittsburgh 

Chargers 

 

Sixth best?

 

KC, Indy and New England are complete teams.
 

Pitt, SD, Den, are a step below. 
 

I like your rankings and thinking. 
 

The bills are 4th best in the AFC, possibly the most dangerous 🤷‍♂️

[BuffaloBillyG]

8 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

"their" debut?  You're thinking that the Bills might trade for a girl?

No. If I did I would have said "her". I said their. As in more than one. 

[colin]

The big people packages on both sides of the ball showed out today.

 

Shaq and Dorian were solid if not good at lb, the DL were a disgusting batch of yetis and even without Oliver if we get sanders and DQ back it's a problem for opponents.

 

On on the 2 and 3 te packages just embarrass guys out there.  Gilliam is a top flight thumper.  Allen kinda sucked for him, but the only running back in the NFL who is better than cook is Taylor in Indy, and our overall power package is better.

 

I think mad max and Hancock showed a lot of juice on d (and the boy Hoyt obv).  7 has obviously lost a step, but assuming we can work out the youthful mistakes, a fast and hungry secondary is a big upgrade 

 

Lastly, this d looks so so much better without Bernard and rapp.  Those two guys have really sucked this season 

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

So Hairston was in just for one series? I was looking for him but just assumed my old man eyes were struggling

He was in and out throughout the game.