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Fox news article:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/broncos-dre-greenlaw-suspended-threatening-ref-after-win-over-giants-nfl-says

 

Here's the synopsis:

 

Greenlaw was suspended for unsportsmanlike conduct toward an official in the Giants-Broncos game. Apparently he chased after Brad Allen (the game's head Referee) and threatened him as he was leaving the field. 

 

He has 3 days to appeal the suspension but we'll see if he does. I'm not sure if the Broncos have put out a statement (couldn't find one).

 

But totally uncalled for... he is a veteran and should be a leader on the team

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Threatened him?  Physically?  A suspension should be the least of Greenlaw's problems, he should be hearing from the police.

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24 minutes ago, boyst said:

lets wait to hear the whole story but glad someone is willing to stand on business to these refs because that's how we will get eyes open on the problem of officiating.

 

everyone wanted better officiating so there were new rules made to assist and all of these opportunities to get the right call and the game has never been called worse.

 

i'm waiting for refs to wear body cameras like the police - so we find out the real problem all along was not the problem - the problem isn't the players it's the refs.


I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, ref altercations every single year so that we can have fairly/professionally officiated games. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational.

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i dunno what happened but this kind of thing can get a player in deep doo doo.

 

i swear the nfl likes the awful reffing as long as it leads to the bigger draw teams doing well/driving revenue.  

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5 minutes ago, Gugny said:


I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, ref altercations every single year so that we can have fairly/professionally officiated games. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational.

It's a weird crossroads for me. I guess growing up and sporting I was always under the belief that coaches coached to win, refs reffed fairly, and the game was honest.

Somewhere along the way I became jaded.

Nothing was more egregious to me than when diabetic don the Eagles security guy started a physical alteration with players on the sideline getting involved with two players. As a result the opposing player was disciplined and removed from the game and Don was, too. Don bad no influence on the game but Don got to create a game changing event.

 

At the same time no one is perfect so how can a ref be perfect? I can excuse some mistakes but games where the Chiefs are not called for a penalty at all? Or the falcons getting nothing for most of the game? Defenders of the shield say the Chiefs are called for penalties but fail to understand they're late in the game or not impactful the game. A false start on a 3rd and 12 in the 3q up 10 pt isn't important and isn't like a supposed illegal shift on a TD play in the first quarter. 

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Not sure exactly what transpired but some of these refs need to be held more accountable for some of the bad calls that they make, as we all know being Bills fans they can change the outcome of very important games and Roger sure isn't doing much at all about it or holding them more accountable .

 

I've never heard of a ref getting fined a game check for sucking at his job or being fired for it . If most of these refs are only part time still as they use to be they need to be put on the NFL employee list so this is all they do to be the absolute best that can be at their jobs and if nothing else consistent across the league in these calls . 

 

So I could see a player getting pissed and voicing his opinion if a guy was choosing a player and busting his balls with ticky tack calls, these guys are very competitive and some more vocal than others so I can see it and see why .

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Whats up with refs suddenly overturning calls they used to let stand? It happened 4-5 times this weekend/last night. The refs real bad last night.

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I think players and coaches should be able to at least criticize the refs. It's football but noooooo can't say anything. No one listened to what fans say because it's just sour grapes. Maybe if more players and coaches just said "screw it" and got pissed and said something we'd have some validations to what we are seeing and changes might, MIGHT be made. Probably not though.  

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I play in an old man bball rec league with some really bad officials. I was having this same debate with some of my buddies in the league. 
 

they are always getting into spats with the refs. They say the refs should be thin skinned and they are getting paid and so they should be better and should take the criticism.

 

My view is to keep my mouth shut— it’s pointless. They are bad, and there’s nothing that will change it. I just take the bad calls and move on. Just the way it is and I’d rather just brush it off. 

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17 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I play in an old man bball rec league with some really bad officials. I was having this same debate with some of my buddies in the league. 
 

they are always getting into spats with the refs. They say the refs should be thin skinned and they are getting paid and so they should be better and should take the criticism.

 

My view is to keep my mouth shut— it’s pointless. They are bad, and there’s nothing that will change it. I just take the bad calls and move on. Just the way it is and I’d rather just brush it off. 

 

yeah I get this.  But incompetence at old man bball is different than incompetence from what should be the best football officials.  I don't think the reffs are trying to favor certain outcomes, I think a lot of them are legitimately bad, and it's a bad look for the NFL.  The NFL also needs to be transparent about fining refs or demoting them fot totally agregis calls like what happened in the Giants-Broncos game (PI call).  Also, making more such calls revewable would help.  Payton could have challenged that call.  

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25 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I play in an old man bball rec league with some really bad officials. I was having this same debate with some of my buddies in the league. 
 

they are always getting into spats with the refs. They say the refs should be thin skinned and they are getting paid and so they should be better and should take the criticism.

 

My view is to keep my mouth shut— it’s pointless. They are bad, and there’s nothing that will change it. I just take the bad calls and move on. Just the way it is and I’d rather just brush it off. 

I was always taught that sometimes you have to beat the opposing team and the referees 

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28 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I play in an old man bball rec league with some really bad officials. I was having this same debate with some of my buddies in the league. 
 

they are always getting into spats with the refs. They say the refs should be thin skinned and they are getting paid and so they should be better and should take the criticism.

 

My view is to keep my mouth shut— it’s pointless. They are bad, and there’s nothing that will change it. I just take the bad calls and move on. Just the way it is and I’d rather just brush it off. 

Enough with this maturity. We demand blood!

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2 hours ago, colin said:

i dunno what happened but this kind of thing can get a player in deep doo doo.

 

i swear the nfl likes the awful reffing as long as it leads to the bigger draw teams doing well/driving revenue.  

Terrible officiating allows the NFL to maintain plausible deniability.

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