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The last few years, Bills were a lot of FUN to watch.

 

This year they are quite painful for many Bills fans to watch.  Opponents are likely glad to play us now, a chance to use your run game.

 

If they lose to Carolina (who pummeled and shut out Atlanta a few weeks ago) it is going be an ugly season of misery and mock drafts.

 

Identity?  The Invisible Men

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9 minutes ago, Poleshifter said:

The last few years, Bills were a lot of FUN to watch.

 

This year they are quite painful for many Bills fans to watch.  Opponents are likely glad to play us now, a chance to use your run game.

 

If they lose to Carolina (who pummeled and shut out Atlanta a few weeks ago) it is going be an ugly season of misery and mock drafts.

 

Identity?  The Invisible Men


meh- the carolina beat atlanta stuff does t do it for me any more than when our bad team beat better ones occasionally 

 

i do think that our current rallying cry is unfortunately “the team that has Josh Allen.” And it concerned me a few times watching hard knocks how both teammates, coaches and our GM all seemed to regard him not as the leader but as the holy savior.
 

Josh doing commercials doesn’t worry me. “Josh will handle this while I watch the spectacle” worries me a lot more.

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2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


meh- the carolina beat atlanta stuff does t do it for me any more than when our bad team beat better ones occasionally 

 

i do think that our current rallying cry is unfortunately “the team that has Josh Allen.” And it concerned me a few times watching hard knocks how both teammates, coaches and our GM all seemed to regard him not as the leader but as the holy savior.
 

Josh doing commercials doesn’t worry me. “Josh will handle this while I watch the spectacle” worries me a lot more.

That’s what they wanted as strange as it sounds. That’s the concept of everybody eats. It’s about role players. It’s a team full of role players and Josh. Cook forced his way into star territory. When you draft poorly in the first 100 picks you are left trying to convince people that it’s better to have interchangeable pieces than to have elite talent. Lol, at least half of this message board bought into that nonsense. 🤣🤣 

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Personality wise the Bills now fully reflect their head coach.  They are the  DMV of the NFL.  Its all about being part of a predictable process.  No fun. No fire. Just doing a job, knowing the customers have no where else to go. 

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14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s what they wanted as strange as it sounds. That’s the concept of everybody eats. It’s about role players. It’s a team full of role players and Josh. Cook forced his way into star territory. When you draft poorly in the first 100 picks you are left trying to convince people that it’s better to have interchangeable pieces than to have elite talent. Lol, at least half of this message board bought into that nonsense. 🤣🤣 


I have a hard time disputing that. 
 

but will say I think at some point it crossed from scrappy hard workers around him to fans. 
 

I know hard knocks is going to be edited to create narratives but there were a few times it seemed like guys in jerseys, and guys in polos, were about to ask him for autographs. 
 

paired with that story in week 1 about someone telling Palmer not to worry because Josh would get it done… 

 

it really feels like the 52 are feeling the mvp hangover now, and that’s starting to make 17 feel the need to carry them too 

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1 hour ago, NoSaint said:


I have a hard time disputing that. 
 

but will say I think at some point it crossed from scrappy hard workers around him to fans. 
 

I know hard knocks is going to be edited to create narratives but there were a few times it seemed like guys in jerseys, and guys in polos, were about to ask him for autographs. 
 

paired with that story in week 1 about someone telling Palmer not to worry because Josh would get it done… 

 

it really feels like the 52 are feeling the mvp hangover now, and that’s starting to make 17 feel the need to carry them too 

For sure. I think it’s evolved from scrappy hard workers believing to a bit of desperation. I’m not sure it’s “believe in Josh because we trust him” as much is “believe in Josh because that’s the only way we can get it done.” It kind of goes back to the whole swagger conversation. They don’t have that edge anymore. It isn’t always coming from elite players but it was there even with guys like McKenzie. They believed. Maybe it’s all of the years of coming up short but they don’t feel like they believe anymore.

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5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

For sure. I think it’s evolved from scrappy hard workers believing to a bit of desperation. I’m not sure it’s “believe in Josh because we trust him” as much is “believe in Josh because that’s the only way we can get it done.” It kind of goes back to the whole swagger conversation. They don’t have that edge anymore. It isn’t always coming from elite players but it was there even with guys like McKenzie. They believed. Maybe it’s all of the years of coming up short but they don’t feel like they believe anymore.


I almost wrote similar and thought about diggs, McKenzie and even everyone’s favorite lightning rod and white rapper Cole Beasley. 
 

Knox, Kincaid, Shakir, Palmer and Keon are all nice dudes and drilling them with having even less ego might be akin to low positive Josh needing to re-light the fire 

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4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Our team philosophy is "protect our defense from being exposed at all costs."

 

We don't want to get in shootouts where our defense could potentially look bad, even when we have the best QB in the league. So, we run a boring, clock chewing system on offense to limit both teams' possessions, despite that undermining our own ability to rack up points.

 

We don't want the defense to have to step up in the face of adversity. So, potential turnovers are avoided at all costs, even if it shackles said QB and neuters his greatest gifts.

 

We don't want our defense to ever feel undermanned. So, we dedicate the lion's share of our assets and draft capital and cap space to constantly re-tooling that side o the ball, while we ask said QB to run through linebackers in week 5 in order to generate offense because he's playing with Fisher-Price weapons.

And that’s the problem with the offensive approach. A defense’s best friend is an offense that racks up points, forces the opposition to be one dimensional. The only game we’ve had like that this year is the Jets. All other games have been close enough to where the opponent hasn’t had to abandon their running game. We’ve neutered our offense and it is quite boring to watch.

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8 hours ago, Sweats said:

Honest question.......

 

What is our team identity?

 

I mean, we're not a run first or pass first team. We're not a down your throat running team. We're not a finesse passing team. We're not field stretchers.........and on D, we're not aggressive, we're not "in your face", we're not tough, etc.

"Taking what the defense gives us" is not an identity, it's a system.

 

I have tried to figure out an identity to describe this team and how it plays and i have no clue.

Just Win Baby !!!! Go Bills !!!

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Offense:  Everybody Fasts

 

Defense: Legion of Room

 

Coaching: "If you're failing as a head coach, clap your hands..."

 

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