Remaining schedule

[Gregg]

5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

This freakin place is so awful after a loss. Obviously 2 in a row makes it way worse.

 

We're making the playoffs. I totally disagree with the notion we need the #1 seed. Your stat about McDermott's playoff road record leaves out the fact that other than 2019 (when we weren't this iteration of the Bills and Josh Allen wasn't yet Elite), every road playoff loss came against the Chiefs.

 

That proves somehow we're doomed on the road against other teams in the playoffs??? Totally disagree.

 

I also think this crowning of NE is really premature.

 

Guys, before the season started looking at our schedule to start the season I think we all would have been happy with 5-1 at the bye. We're one game off that pace.

 

Nobody is crowning NE but if you don't think they have a good shot at the division with that schedule then you aren't facing reality. With the exception of the Jets game the Bills haven't looked all that good even in the wins. Does this mean the season is over, of course not. But they have things to fix if they want to compete for a Super Bowl. Right now, this team looks nothing like a contender.

[Ya Digg?]

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

They've been here before - having weeks at a time where they looked terrible - but what's concerning is that in past seasons when this happened, it was obvious that they were just underachieving.

 

This team, on the other hand, looks like they are just bad. The roster outside of a few guys seems awful.

So here's the issue with your statement - this is a hindsight look.  The same doom and gloom was being said during those stretches in the past.  No one was saying "oh well these teams are just consistently underachieving"  there were tons of threads of this team is terrible, they won't make the playoffs, the roster outside of a few guys seems awful, blah blah blah

 

In the moment, the days and week after a loss it's always the same around here.  They have shown in the past they can turn it around, so I have reason to believe they will figure it out again

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, Gregg said:

The Eagles seem like the NFC version of the Bills this season. They look "off". The OL isn't as good; Barkley isn't close to what he was last year. The defense isn't as good as last year. They just got smoked by the Giants and even with Dart they still suck. Of course, they did win the Super Bowl last year so if they have an "off" year it's no big deal as opposed to the Bills who can't seem to get over the hump and win a Lombardi.

The eagles have stretches of looking completely hopeless every year. Last year it was early in the season, two years ago it was late 

[SoCal Deek]

11 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

(Courtesy of Trainwreck Sports Facebook)

 

Time is a flat circle

 

Isn’t a circle always flat? 😉 

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, jahnyc said:

It is concerning that Penix is not a good QB and we made him look really good.

Well, they dropped two INTs (Cam Lewis and Shaq Thompson).

[corta765]

The schedule breaks down like this for the playoffs and division crown:

 

Must Win: at MIA CIN at CLE NYJ

 

Need to win at least one probably two to help division race: at CAR at HOU at PIT

 

Division will be won or lost given the tiebreakers: at NE

 

In the past 8 years they usually win one or two of these BUT who knows this year & the NFL could see a record amount of yardage allowed if the Bills defense stays as is: KC PHI TB

 

Realistically if the Bills win the must win games they conference record would be 7-3 before any of the other games considered so they would have tie breakers for the wildcard and division if they go 10-7 or 11-6. More then anything else they need to take care of business in those four games.

 

As for the rest like I said in the past I would trust them to win one or two of KC/PHI/TB, I wouldn't sweat them taking out NE for revenge, and they win two of three against CAR/HOU/PIT. Right now? It feels like a much larger task given their issues across the board and getting to 11 wins could be a struggle. But that is the path above on how it breaks out.

2 hours ago, dorquemada said:

 

Bryce Young can pick apart a defense if given any time.  We'll see if Babich can make any kind of adjustments to consistently get pressure.  Maybe our PED guys can help

By help I hope you mean give our defensive players more PEDs because that might be the only way to save this bus lol

[Success]

This seems a little gloomy to me.

 

I don't think this is a very good Bills team - but the AFC is so middlin' right now.   Last night was a bummer, but we were really missing a lot of guys, particularly receivers (no Kincaid, no Samuel, no Palmer most of the game). That really turned a pretty winnable game into a loss.  And I fully expect a trade for WR by the deadline.

 

I think we get 12 wins, which likely wins the division.  

 

[dorquemada]

3 minutes ago, Success said:

This seems a little gloomy to me.

 

I don't think this is a very good Bills team - but the AFC is so middlin' right now.   Last night was a bummer, but we were really missing a lot of guys, particularly receivers (no Kincaid, no Samuel, no Palmer most of the game). That really turned a pretty winnable game into a loss.  And I fully expect a trade for WR by the deadline.

 

I think we get 12 wins, which likely wins the division.  

 

 

We're always missing a lot of guys.  The roster is too thin to be missing a lot of guys every game.  Next man up is not a philosophy that's going to work here

[beebe]

3 hours ago, dorquemada said:

So, here's who we have left.  I'm interested in the collective's thoughts around which of these games we'll win.  

 

@Carolina - Manhandled Atlanta a few weeks back.  Not a good team but seemingly unpredictable.  Really no idea on this one.  Coming off the bye I have to believe it's a W
 

KC - KC is coming on and we're fading, or that will be the narrative.  KC hasn't beat us in a while in regular season but getting some guys back as we're losing more.  Calling this an L.  Even if the rosters were more or less equal there's a yawning chasm between the capabilities of the coaching staffs.  As organizations ultimately reflect their leadership, this becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
 

@Miami - this is the acid test.  If we can't win this time to tank for whatever undersized high  motor DL that Beane covets most.  Call it a W
 

Tampa - Tampa playing solid ball now. Mayfield finally delivering on his promise.  This is an L
 

@Houston - No idea here.  They seem to have some of the same problems the bills do, and we havent been good against them.  L
 

@Pittsburgh - Again, a team that gives us fits.  Rogers will likely feast on our bend then break defense.  Cutesy playcalling against the D will go nowhere L
 

Cincinnati - should be a W.  They're just in a tough place though we have exactly nobody to cover those WRs.
 

@New England - right now this is a L strait up, but hoping we see a regression to the mean between now and then.  Hope is our best strategy!
 

@Cleveland - pretty sure they're running for the busses by this point and we'll be in dire straits needing a W to try to get a wild card spot.  Maybe we'll be playing against the legendary Shedeur?
 

Philadelphia - unless the eagles have the top spot locked up and are starting their scrubs, I dont see a win here.  Or why not, Allen decides to don the cape and goes all world.  W
 

New York Jets - we'll need a win to get a wildcard.  Jets are hapless.  W

 

Does 10-7 get us a wild card? Not sure it matters because we simply don't have the horses to make noise in January.

 

 

 

The Bills are:

 

a) the current Super Bowl favorite at 5.5-to-1

b) the current AFC East division favorite at -300 (risk $3 to win $1)

c) the team with the best odds of making the playoffs in the entire league at -2000 (risk $20 to win $1)

d) the team with the 2nd best odds, behind only Tampa Bay, of having the most wins in the entire league (+550)

e) the team with the highest updated regular season win total at 11.5 (over -165)

f) the team with a QB with the third-highest MVP odds (risk $1 to win $3)

g) the team the 12th easiest remaining schedule in the league so far

 

Let's get back to reality. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

20 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

The Bills are:

 

a) the current Super Bowl favorite at 5.5-to-1

b) the current AFC East division favorite at -300 (risk $3 to win $1)

c) the team with the best odds of making the playoffs in the entire league at -2000 (risk $20 to win $1)

d) the team with the 2nd best odds, behind only Tampa Bay, of having the most wins in the entire league (+550)

e) the team with the highest updated regular season win total at 11.5 (over -165)

f) the team with a QB with the third-highest MVP odds (risk $1 to win $3)

g) the team the 12th easiest remaining schedule in the league so far

 

Let's get back to reality. 

We are in a reality where the team hasn't made a SB yet. Lost to one team 4/5 playoff years. Defensive HC with defenses that are consistently poor in postseason losses. No true #1 receiver. 

 

Let's not act as if they've been there and done that. As if they deserve the benefit of the doubt. That might work for Eagles or Chiefs fans. Certainly not for the majority of Bills fans.

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

Most of them. This October swoon happens every year and every year people freak out and claim the sky is falling and every year the Bills rarely lose games coming out of the bye.

[Realist]

3 hours ago, jahnyc said:

It is concerning that Penix is not a good QB and we made him look really good.

I can pick apart our zone defense

[Peace Frog]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Isn’t a circle always flat? 😉 

True. I was just posting what the OP had posted.  Speaking of flat, that's why the moon landings were fake. You can't land on the moon because it's not flat, like the Earth.

[iwishitwerecolder]

1 hour ago, Realist said:

I can pick apart our zone defense

How to beat a bills zone defense

 

run ten yards, stop, first down.

[Murdox]

Thanks to our 2 losses against teams where we were favored, NE is in a strong position and controls the division at this point.  Yes, it's early in the season, but their schedule has to be one of the easiest in the NFL.  I think people are overestimating the Bucs, but I do agree that KC will be tough given their recent momentum.  But, first things first.  We need to show the team is out of the funk and beat Carolina. 

 

Last night's game against the Falcons reminded me a lot of that game in Europe that we lost to the Jags a year or two ago.  We just looked completely flat at the beginning - like our players were operating in a lower drive setting than the Falcons players.  We have historically proven we can recover from bad losses, but the injuries this year are really taking a toll.  We have no depth at receiver, and we need to somehow find a way to scheme a defense that can get pressure on opposing QBs.

 

Year-after-year we are constantly reminded by everyone, including the Bills' brass, that we need to get pressure on QBs in this modern pass-happy era.  And, year-after-year, I am generally disappointed as our pass rush remains woefully inconsistent and generally ineffective against good teams.

[DrBob806]

4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

Cleveland has a defense, nice rookie mlb.

Somebody here about a week ago said the Bills are the opposite of the Browns, gave me a chuckle.

 

Something like " The Browns have an offensive coach & can't score, while the Bills have a defensive coach & struggle to stop teams " 

 

Pretty much spot on.

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, dorquemada said:

So, here's who we have left.  I'm interested in the collective's thoughts around which of these games we'll win.  

 

@Carolina - Manhandled Atlanta a few weeks back.  Not a good team but seemingly unpredictable.  Really no idea on this one.  Coming off the bye I have to believe it's a W
 

KC - KC is coming on and we're fading, or that will be the narrative.  KC hasn't beat us in a while in regular season but getting some guys back as we're losing more.  Calling this an L.  Even if the rosters were more or less equal there's a yawning chasm between the capabilities of the coaching staffs.  As organizations ultimately reflect their leadership, this becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
 

@Miami - this is the acid test.  If we can't win this time to tank for whatever undersized high  motor DL that Beane covets most.  Call it a W
 

Tampa - Tampa playing solid ball now. Mayfield finally delivering on his promise.  This is an L
 

@Houston - No idea here.  They seem to have some of the same problems the bills do, and we havent been good against them.  L
 

@Pittsburgh - Again, a team that gives us fits.  Rogers will likely feast on our bend then break defense.  Cutesy playcalling against the D will go nowhere L
 

Cincinnati - should be a W.  They're just in a tough place though we have exactly nobody to cover those WRs.
 

@New England - right now this is a L strait up, but hoping we see a regression to the mean between now and then.  Hope is our best strategy!
 

@Cleveland - pretty sure they're running for the busses by this point and we'll be in dire straits needing a W to try to get a wild card spot.  Maybe we'll be playing against the legendary Shedeur?
 

Philadelphia - unless the eagles have the top spot locked up and are starting their scrubs, I dont see a win here.  Or why not, Allen decides to don the cape and goes all world.  W
 

New York Jets - we'll need a win to get a wildcard.  Jets are hapless.  W

 

Does 10-7 get us a wild card? Not sure it matters because we simply don't have the horses to make noise in January.

 

 

I picked a good year to drop Sunday ticket.

[T.E.]

5 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

So here's the issue with your statement - this is a hindsight look.  The same doom and gloom was being said during those stretches in the past.  No one was saying "oh well these teams are just consistently underachieving"  there were tons of threads of this team is terrible, they won't make the playoffs, the roster outside of a few guys seems awful, blah blah blah

 

In the moment, the days and week after a loss it's always the same around here.  They have shown in the past they can turn it around, so I have reason to believe they will figure it out again

You are misremembering. When they were losing to the Urban Meyer Jags and Zach Wilson Jets, nobody thought it was because we were lacking in talent or just playing a better team.

 

This team, this year, is just not good. They lost to Atlanta and NE because those squads are collectively better than ours.

[Success]

1 hour ago, Murdox said:

Thanks to our 2 losses against teams where we were favored, NE is in a strong position and controls the division at this point.  Yes, it's early in the season, but their schedule has to be one of the easiest in the NFL.  I think people are overestimating the Bucs, but I do agree that KC will be tough given their recent momentum.  But, first things first.  We need to show the team is out of the funk and beat Carolina. 

 

Last night's game against the Falcons reminded me a lot of that game in Europe that we lost to the Jags a year or two ago.  We just looked completely flat at the beginning - like our players were operating in a lower drive setting than the Falcons players.  We have historically proven we can recover from bad losses, but the injuries this year are really taking a toll.  We have no depth at receiver, and we need to somehow find a way to scheme a defense that can get pressure on opposing QBs.

 

Year-after-year we are constantly reminded by everyone, including the Bills' brass, that we need to get pressure on QBs in this modern pass-happy era.  And, year-after-year, I am generally disappointed as our pass rush remains woefully inconsistent and generally ineffective against good teams.

 

The Pats schedule is soft, but they're also not an elite team by any means. They can lose to this same Falcons team we lost to. They could lose to almost anyone on their schedule.

 

I think the next game w/ them decides the division.

 

[SaulGoodman]

I wouldn't overlook Houston. Elite D and good QB. Didn't Allen have one of his worst games ever against them last year?