KingBoots8 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago If you’re looking for a #1 the best guy out there is AJ Brown. Now, to get him is gonna be pricey, and that’s even if Philly decides to play ball. It’s going to be a first and then some… A more realistic option would be Shaheed. Not sure if he’s a #1, but he’s fast and brings skills to our team that our current WRs are lacking. The problem here is that a lot of people have noticed his play of late, so you’re probably going to have to overpay if you want him. I could see Pats and KC looking to make deals as well, so then you have to leverage the cost to benefit there a bit. Ridley doesn’t inspire hope in my eyes at all. He should be getting fed like crazy with a rookie QB and isn’t producing Bengals have Burrow (sometimes) so they’re not selling. Same with Baltimore. Giants aren’t selling, Jets won’t sell to us, Miami has Waddle but he’s injured more than I’d like, Saints likely want to keep Olave given their investment in him, Vegas has empty cupboards, and most other teams have noticed abandoned hope yet. The options are limited and expensive, but something has to change. Quote
stlbills13 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago There's nobody out there Use the assets to get a CB and a safety and maybe even a linebacker Survive on offense with a lot more James Cook and hopefully a healthier Kincaid and just less stupid play calls Quote
stlbills13 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Shaheed is fine. He'd make the group better but I'm not convinced he actually elevates the team enough. DJ Moore is interesting I guess. Odunze is the guy there now and Burdens role was bigger out of the bye. Asset wise he might actually be cheaper with a hard to fit contract. But he's another guy who is "just a guy" for me. Marvin Harrison Jr and Kyler have not been on the same page ever so maybe he's a target but rhe Cardinals would give up on Kyler before MHJ plus MHJ has a 2nd concussion Jakobi Meyers is a guy I've always liked but that feels like another Palmer Coleman type. Maybe a little better but not striking fear into anyone I guess you could talk me into like Calvin Ridley and a 7th for a 6th but that feels like Amari Cooper lite. Same with Jerry Jeudy. Waddle I guess is interesting but would the Dolphins do that 1 Quote
henry jones Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, stlbills13 said: There's nobody out there Use the assets to get a CB and a safety and maybe even a linebacker Survive on offense with a lot more James Cook and hopefully a healthier Kincaid and just less stupid play calls 100% agree... Getting a bona fide stud WR at this point is going to be very, very pricey. Not to mention, is Brady intelligent enough to figure how to incorporate a potential asset like that? The way the defense looks, we're gonna need to score 30+ per game from here on out. Even with a WR upgrade, that means we'll still have to put 6 on the board with every position to keep it close. That's a tough ask. Getting a couple bodies to help on the defensive side should be less costly. This is all moot though, as we will forever be handicapped by the coaching staff. 1 1 Quote
Ray Stonada Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Because Brady fixed the running game. Right, Jokeman, cause everyone knows you can't have a good running game and a number 1 receiver thriving at the same time... Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed can tell you! 1 Quote
Pete Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Jameson Williams & Rashid Shaheed both came into the NFL in 2022 & they’ve played the exact same number of games (38). Jamo 94 receptions 1,619 yards 11 TD’s Shaheed 116 receptions 1,844 yards 12 TD’s Shaheed $4.45 million 2025 cap number will be FA this season. NO in rebuild im guessing what take draft picks, if they don’t think they can resign him 1 1 Quote
sven233 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago There are options out there. Honestly, if they are going to part with either one, or both, there is no reason that one of the Saints WRs shouldn't be a Bill this week, or at least before the trade deadline. Obviously, I believe Olave is the better player, but Shaheed is no slouch himself. I'd take either one of them. Heck, give me both! HA! Of course both aren't happening, but one of them should absolutely be a Bill. They fit everything we are missing. Guys that can separate that have top end deep speed. The problem I see here, and it shouldn't be a problem, is that if Beane does it, he knows he is going to look like a fool for his viral rant on WGR this offseason. He will have to publicly admit that he was wrong, and I am not sure he is going to do that, even if he wants to. It will be very easy to go swing a trade for any other position and hide behind the fact we have several other glaring holes besides WR. It's on him. As for compensation, a 3rd.....or even a conditional 2nd should be on the table for Olave. A 3rd for Shaheed. Might be a slight overpayment, but whichever one you get, should be prioritized for an extension and should be a Bill for a long time. I don't look at these moves as rentals. Now, if it isn't these guys and it's another WR, then I guess it would depend on who the guy is. But I would be doing everything I could to get a deal with the Saints done this week so they have next week to get up to speed a bit. Just not sure the front office will show the same urgency, though. 1 Quote
jlatas Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, Bruffalo said: And +1 touchdown a game. We had a 7 point a game swing just by having him on the field. Correlation doesn't always imply causation! 2 Quote
LEBills Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Jameson Williams & Rashid Shaheed both came into the NFL in 2022 & they’ve played the exact same number of games (38). Jamo 94 receptions 1,619 yards 11 TD’s Shaheed 116 receptions 1,844 yards 12 TD’s Shaheed $4.45 million 2025 cap number will be FA this season. NO in rebuild im guessing what take draft picks, if they don’t think they can resign him Shaheed would be a great addition in conjunction with getting Olave. Shaheed is likely to get a good sized contract that will net New Orleans a rd 3 or 4 comp pick. So you would have to offer similar compensation a year early. Something like a 2026 1st and 3rd for Olave and Shaheed. The WR group would be much better this year though New Orleans may not want to gut their WR room like that. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Yet their success is from the slot. It's the whole DT vs NT discussion. Just because a guy can play there it doesn't mean it's his best role. Wilson has had plenty of success outside. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 hours ago, stlbills13 said: There's nobody out there Use the assets to get a CB and a safety and maybe even a linebacker Survive on offense with a lot more James Cook and hopefully a healthier Kincaid and just less stupid play calls There ARE people out there. Everyone has a price. You’re telling me Cleveland wouldn’t jump at a 3rd (or 2nd if push comes to shove) for Jerry Jeudy? They are in the hunt for a QB come next offseason and the smart thing to do would be to load up on picks like Buffalo did to nab Allen. Bill’s stock is falling so those picks will be worth even more to potential suitors. Buffalo is insanely lucky to be 4-2 with this roster. They can still turn it around if they can get a decent boundary receiver via trade. Not likely that the defense will have some major turnaround unless Hairston turns out to be the 2nd coming of Deion Sanders. It’s a multiple player turnaround. Maybe even an entire scheme change. This offense literally needs one thing and that’s a WR that can take the top off. It would be a night & day transformation. I think Beane is smart enough to know the writing is on the wall. Your average fan knows that. You can literally feel it. I hope McDermott is in his ear about looking at the trade market. This isn’t a rebuilding year (yet.) We only have a finite amount of time with Josh in his prime. I’d much rather go out swinging for the fences than to do a slow death watching this crap offense dink & dunk their way to the 7 seed. Edited 1 hour ago by ChronicAndKnuckles 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Hard pass on Ridley. He’s seeing some serious volume for the Titans and doing absolutely nothing with it outside the outlier of a game he had last week. Jeudy? No thanks. Another guy that’s only productive when seeing serious volume of targets. Marvin Harrison might have been a shot if he didn’t finally show up in that Seattle game where to start he continued dropping balls and showing little effort and smarts on plays. Even then, they probably hang on to him. You don’t move on from a guy one year after drafting him that high. Wilson and Waddle aren’t being traded to a divisional rival unless it’s astronomical compensation. Olave is the only guy on your list. Keon and a second wouldn’t be a bad trade. The fans aren’t happy with him and are dogging him left and right for some of his play against the Pats this past weekend. Seems like a perfect replacement; whipping boy switch. Quote
Success Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Shaheed is intriguing. We need that speed. It would kind of add to "everybody eats," but we also simply need another higher-end receiver. I was hoping Samuel could be more of a contributor but to rely on his health at this point seems illogical. Olave would move the needle much more. 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Tired - The Bills need a number 1 WR. Wired - The Bills need a number 1 and a number 2 WR Some other names that could fill one of the spots Jakobi Meyers, Kendrick Bourne, DJ Moore, JaJuan Jennings They aren't going to trade for 2 WR's. We'll be lucky to get 1 done. The best we can realistically hope for as far as change in the WR room is pulling off a move for Chris Olave and elevating Gabe Davis in place of Tyrell Shavers and Elijah Moore. Edited 56 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Garrett Wilson would be the dream but I don’t think the Jets would ever trade him to us. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Hard pass on Ridley. He’s seeing some serious volume for the Titans and doing absolutely nothing with it outside the outlier of a game he had last week. Jeudy? No thanks. Another guy that’s only productive when seeing serious volume of targets. Marvin Harrison might have been a shot if he didn’t finally show up in that Seattle game where to start he continued dropping balls and showing little effort and smarts on plays. Even then, they probably hang on to him. You don’t move on from a guy one year after drafting him that high. Wilson and Waddle aren’t being traded to a divisional rival unless it’s astronomical compensation. Olave is the only guy on your list. Keon and a second wouldn’t be a bad trade. The fans aren’t happy with him and are dogging him left and right for some of his play against the Pats this past weekend. Seems like a perfect replacement; whipping boy switch. Jeudy is only 26 and just came off his best season. Look at how much better Diggs got when paired w/ Allen. He’s a lower tier #1 and that’s perfectly fine. IDK who wouldn’t love this move for the right price ? 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, Success said: Shaheed is intriguing. We need that speed. It would kind of add to "everybody eats," but we also simply need another higher-end receiver. I was hoping Samuel could be more of a contributor but to rely on his health at this point seems illogical. Olave would move the needle much more. To me if we’re trying to be realistic…..meaning not calling for AJ Brown or Tee Higgins etc……the field narrows quickly and I’ve seen articles today stating the Steelers and of all teams the Giants are trying to pick up a WR. I’m sure I’m missing something but the three standouts to me are Shaheed, Iosivas, and Tre Tucker. Meyers…..good player but does he fit? Jeudy…..bum Ridley…..I think he dated my grandma Legette….Keonesque a million guys…..unattainable To me the only realistic trade partners are Saints, Raiders, Browns, Titans, Bengals, maybe Bears. Giants and possibly Panthers could be but have nothing worth seeking. I think Tucker is on top for me with Shaheed a close second and Iosivas a sleeper but a distant third. 1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Jeudy is only 26 and just came off his best season. Look at how much better Diggs got when paired w/ Allen. He’s a lower tier #1 and that’s perfectly fine. IDK who wouldn’t love this move for the right price ? He’s a crappy player with an attitude problem. Edited 1 hour ago by 4merper4mer Quote
ALLinALLEN Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Garrett Wilson would be the dream but I don’t think the Jets would ever trade him to us. hes out like the next 3-4 weeks with a knee injury Quote
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