Cover1 Video Breakdown: Dalton Kincaid Should Be the Centerpiece of Bills Offense

[Thurman#1]

 

 

Interesting video from Kincaid's use against the Pats.

 

[Thurman#1]

I thought it was interesting seeing the Pats "spinning into eight man coverage," initially confounding Josh, but seeing Kincaid quickly figure out how he can be QB-friendly in that situation. (13:00)

 

Interesting also seeing (4:45) where he makes a case that Josh took the lower-percentage shot giving Coleman a contested catch shot where the CB has him partly stacked and Josh doesn't give him a back-shoulder ball. Eric argues that a shorter pass to Kincaid would probably have made the 1st.

 

 

 

[BuffaloRebound]

Everybody’s gotta plan until you get punched in the mouth.  When the everybody eats stuff aint working, it’s gotta be Cook, Kincaid, and Shakir.  Honestly, that should’ve been the gameplan going into the Pats game.  I understand spreading it around and not showing all your cards against the weaker teams, but it really felt like we gave that game away with a horrible 1st half offensive gameplan.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Agreed. Offense should center around Shakir and Kincaid. This “everybody eats” philosophy is not working as well as it did in the past. I feel like you put the ball in the hands of the playmakers. Also, I feel like Cook should be used more in the passing game too. These are the most dynamic skill players. So get them the ball. 

[Buffalo Boy]

   Just opined in the other thread that I feel Hawes and Kincaid should both be used ahead of Knox. 
   If Hawes was used in a similar fashion to Beasely in finding holes in the zone and sitting down he’d make a heck of a big target and I already like his hands better than Knox.

   We aren’t finding outside speed on this team. Josh is better at hitting a spot than outside downfield passes. 

[Pecker]

Kinkaid really thrived with play action.  If we are gonna be running it so often, then we should also use play action more often.  
 

and why isn’t Shakir on the field more? He is our best wr.  It feels like he is rarely out there.  Start using him outside! He is so quick and shifty I don’t see why he couldn’t play outside. 
 

 

[CSBill]

I strongly feel the Bills should be using Dalton Kinkaid much more than they are—he is my Fantasy team's TE. No more everybody eats, feed DK more!

[fasteddie]

The only problem with Kincade is that Brady pulls him off the field after he makes a catch. Reid would never pull Kelce off the field after he made a catch in his prime. After putting the defense in bad positions, a wr would break open for a TD. Brady has got to learn how to use his best weapons.

[CoudyBills]

Are you insinuating that 54% snap count doesn't constitute "center piece"?

[Big Blitz]

I’m telling you - they don’t want his snap share over 65 percent especially in the first half of the season. 
 

Dalton is under a sort of load maintenance.  
 

They view him as a guy at higher risk of injury.  
 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   Just opined in the other thread that I feel Hawes and Kincaid should both be used ahead of Knox. 
   If Hawes was used in a similar fashion to Beasely in finding holes in the zone and sitting down he’d make a heck of a big target and I already like his hands better than Knox.

   We aren’t finding outside speed on this team. Josh is better at hitting a spot than outside downfield passes. 

except on jet sweeps. That’s Knox’s bread and butter.

[finn]

I'm not sure what to make of Brady. Is he holding back, maybe at McDermott's request, playing conservative ball to take the win? Or is this all he can do with the best quarterback in the league, a terrific line (and line coach) and running back, and the best tight-end trio in the league--against bottom-half teams? Maybe Babich is struggling because of a dearth of talent to work with, but you can't say the same of Brady. My growing sense is that he's just a guy who happened to be around when McDermott needed someone to take over. I credit him for turning things around, and I'm not giving up on him yet, but he's been dealt pocket aces and so far this year he's playing like he has 5-7 off. 

[Robert Paulson]

2 hours ago, finn said:

I'm not sure what to make of Brady. Is he holding back, maybe at McDermott's request, playing conservative ball to take the win? Or is this all he can do with the best quarterback in the league, a terrific line (and line coach) and running back, and the best tight-end trio in the league--against bottom-half teams? Maybe Babich is struggling because of a dearth of talent to work with, but you can't say the same of Brady. My growing sense is that he's just a guy who happened to be around when McDermott needed someone to take over. I credit him for turning things around, and I'm not giving up on him yet, but he's been dealt pocket aces and so far this year he's playing like he has 5-7 off. 

I strongly believe they are hold8ng back for the playoffs.

 

Great idea but you have to do enough to win the games.

 

We should jump on teams, build the lead than vanilla back to victory.

 

We are trying to vanilla to victory and it is a struggle.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, finn said:

I'm not sure what to make of Brady. Is he holding back, maybe at McDermott's request, playing conservative ball to take the win? Or is this all he can do with the best quarterback in the league, a terrific line (and line coach) and running back, and the best tight-end trio in the league--against bottom-half teams? Maybe Babich is struggling because of a dearth of talent to work with, but you can't say the same of Brady. My growing sense is that he's just a guy who happened to be around when McDermott needed someone to take over. I credit him for turning things around, and I'm not giving up on him yet, but he's been dealt pocket aces and so far this year he's playing like he has 5-7 off. 

I’m not sure New England is a bottom half team anymore. They just took down Buffalo pretty convincingly at home (with a little officiating help.) Defense looks legit and they have enough offense to win games. 

[billsfan89]

I would still like to get a quality boundary WR. Not sure how or who fits that description but I think teams are going to get centered around daring the Bills to beat them on the boundary. Stack the box and take away the middle as much as possible, leave the corners on an island one on one and give them that. I think Olave or another much better than average WR would be a big trickle down benefit for the offense. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I’m telling you - they don’t want his snap share over 65 percent especially in the first half of the season. 
 

Dalton is under a sort of load maintenance.  
 

They view him as a guy at higher risk of injury.  
 

 

When you plan on playing 20+ games, that isn't a horrible plan.

 

Still, he's on pace for 900+ yards, 10 TDS, and I believe 75+ catches as of now, with only playing 54% 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

3 hours ago, finn said:

I'm not sure what to make of Brady. Is he holding back, maybe at McDermott's request, playing conservative ball to take the win? Or is this all he can do with the best quarterback in the league, a terrific line (and line coach) and running back, and the best tight-end trio in the league--against bottom-half teams? Maybe Babich is struggling because of a dearth of talent to work with, but you can't say the same of Brady. My growing sense is that he's just a guy who happened to be around when McDermott needed someone to take over. I credit him for turning things around, and I'm not giving up on him yet, but he's been dealt pocket aces and so far this year he's playing like he has 5-7 off. 

Ah yes, my favorite conspiracy theory.

 

Our HC, who is closing in on 100 wins and has the highest win % in team history, is secretly pushing coaches to play not to lose. 

He tried to neuter our offense, but is so incompetent that it's just made it historically good for multiple seasons and multiple OCs. 

If only we had a real HC. 

[finn]

12 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Ah yes, my favorite conspiracy theory.

 

Our HC, who is closing in on 100 wins and has the highest win % in team history, is secretly pushing coaches to play not to lose. 

He tried to neuter our offense, but is so incompetent that it's just made it historically good for multiple seasons and multiple OCs. 

If only we had a real HC. 

You know, I'm tired of hearing that win percentage stat trotted out every time anyone suggests McDermott is a mediocrity. Dick Jauron could win with Allen playing for him. 

 

 

[Watkins90]

6 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Agreed. Offense should center around Shakir and Kincaid. This “everybody eats” philosophy is not working as well as it did in the past. I feel like you put the ball in the hands of the playmakers. Also, I feel like Cook should be used more in the passing game too. These are the most dynamic skill players. So get them the ball. 

I figured the everybody eats gameplan was just mostly telling Josh don't force the ball to the first read, it's okay to take the fourth read if it results in positive yards. We think that we are specifically designing and calling plays so that everyone gets essentially "equal" touches throughout a game. I also thought it was kind of a montra, like, "Don't B word if you aren't getting the ball like Diggs did. Everyone is a professional, and I'm going to throw the ball to the open guy no matter who it is."

[Da webster guy]

6 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Everybody’s gotta plan until you get punched in the mouth.  When the everybody eats stuff aint working, it’s gotta be Cook, Kincaid, and Shakir.  Honestly, that should’ve been the gameplan going into the Pats game.  I understand spreading it around and not showing all your cards against the weaker teams, but it really felt like we gave that game away with a horrible 1st half offensive gameplan.  

I agree but Ty Johnson and Ray need to get more inside the tackle runs.  Ty isn't being used at all because Cook was so hot this season but he's a weapon we needed the other night.