How Good is Joe Brady?

[bills11]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

It's really difficult to tell exactly how good he is. Allen single handedly erases a lot of stalled drives and the only other time Brady was an NFL OC he failed and got fired.

 

The best thing he has going for him is he knows what his players do well and he only asks them to do those things. Compared to Dorsey where for example he would ask Gabe Davis to read coverages and catch a lot of targets. As soon as Brady took over that kind of nonsense stopped.

 

His play design and play calling is simple, for better or worse. He calls a few select formations and only has like 3-4 concepts he calls out of each of those formations. He basically tells the opposing defense I think I can call these plays even when you know they're coming and I dare you to stop it. We've seen that strategy falter a bit when defenses sell out to stop specific plays, but it's hard to argue with the results. Any given week we can put up 30+ points while barely breaking a sweat. Yes we have Allen as the ultimate force multiplier but that's been true since 2020 and we've only seen the week to week consistency show up since Brady took over.

 

I don't think he's particularly creative and he can be a bit too conservative for my liking so I would say he both significantly raises our floor and slightly reduces our ceiling.

 

True it's a very interesting approach similar to what the Colts did with Peyton..the one downside as you said is sometimes going to the well a bit too often like when we ran the sneak with Josh and the chiefs knew it was coming .

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

4 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

 

 

Click the link "watch on Youtube" for Cover1's video on how Brady is calling plays.  

 

 

I think he’s great. He brought an elite running game to pair with Josh Allen. Now only if his defensive counterpart could do the same then the Bills would be golden. My only gripe is the lack of deep ball, but I think this type of small ball, dink & dunk will really serve us well against elite Quarterback play in the postseason by keeping them off the field. 

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Hawes has 4 targets in 4 games.  

 

I actually would like to see a little more down field passing, but if teams stay in cover 2, Josh and Brady are content to run the ball, control the clock and wear out the opposing D front.

Hawes blocking is much more crucial. It allows the Bills to have a pseudo 6th lineman without actually having to sacrifice a passing threat. His role is absolutely crucial in Brady’s offense and gives the Bills so many new wrinkles. What a find. 

Edited 1 hour ago by ChronicAndKnuckles

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, Rubes said:

 

This is essentially what the Bills D is doing to other teams too, though, is that correct? It seems like the idea is to force teams into long drives with many short plays and multiple 3rd down conversions, hoping to force teams to punt, kick a FG, or turn the ball over. I guess other teams are doing that to us, too. Is the difference that we are so effective running the ball, not turning the ball over, and having a high red zone TD percentage?

 

I think it’s basically saying our defense looks at most offenses like most defenses look at us with Josh Allen. 

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I'm really hoping that Brady can gameplan to get Hawes 1-2 targets a game against some of these lower grade teams!  I would LOVEEEEE to be able to put that on tape so that DC's cant start cheating up on him, and we can really keep them guessing.  I dont want it to just be a threat, would like to see them scheme some Play-action touches us up for the big fella.  Plus hes busting his arse, and would appreciate the touches

Play Action ratio is already on the increase. I see Brady letting Allen loose by later part of the season when you have to play the heavy weights like Bucs, Chiefs and Eagles 

[ganesh]

Daboll called  plays that put Allen to make better throws to his WR. He also had an alpha WR in Diggs along with an excellent slot WR. 
 

Brady has understood his WR limitations and took out those plays that only Diggs and Beasley could do. 
 

When you looked at Jones passing for 350 yards with no name receiver - have to say Brady is not in the same league as Shannahan or McVay. 

[Doc Brown]

Dorsey's offense is pretty simple and I like that.  He does a good job of leaning into the strengths of the players and limiting the weaknesses.  Plus, he took those stupid choice routes away.

[ganesh]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Dorsey's offense is pretty simple and I like that.  He does a good job of leaning into the strengths of the players and limiting the weaknesses.  Plus, he took those stupid choice routes away.

You meant Brady's offense

[Doc Brown]

Just now, ganesh said:

You meant Brady's offense

Yeah.  Whoops.  I had that guy's frustrating offense in my head when thinking about Brady.

[ganesh]

17 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Yeah.  Whoops.  I had that guy's frustrating offense in my head when thinking about Brady.

There are folks here who will call Brady's offense as frustrating at times (including myself).  But not as bad as Dorsey's. Go Bills !!!

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Josh was 9/30 that game for only 130 yards.  The running game was fine with 150 yards and average 5.4 yards a carry.   We also had 4 scoring drives.  
 

I chalk that game up to Josh having a rare bad game.

It was also pretty early with his WRs last year. Shakir was out and maybe Knox or Kincaid too? 
 

it was Keon and Mack Hollins I think