BillytheKid Posted Monday at 05:10 PM Posted Monday at 05:10 PM Might as well keep a thread going, even though it is early for the MVP race after a quarter of the season basically done now, Allen is the front runner and took a bigger lead over everyone after yesterday based on the betting odds. I can update it each week as the year goes on. Assuming Allen stays in it. Josh Allen -105 Just Herbert +600 Patrick Mahomes +850 Lamar Jackson +900 Jordan Love +1000 Matthew Stafford +1600 also as an aside, James Cook is listed in 6th place for offensive player of the year at +1,600 1 2 Quote
boyst Posted Monday at 05:11 PM Posted Monday at 05:11 PM Jackson deserves to fall for faking an injury to get out of the game. 1 12 Quote
Draconator Posted Monday at 05:15 PM Posted Monday at 05:15 PM 4 minutes ago, BillytheKid said: Just Herbert He's gone all sunny LA on us, hipster like. Quote
4merper4mer Posted Monday at 05:16 PM Posted Monday at 05:16 PM 1 minute ago, boyst said: Jackson deserves to fall for faking an injury to get out of the game. 1-3 doesn’t help. Trevor Lawrence will make an appearance on this list at some point. The Jags are not a mirage. Lawrence looks like he might have turned a corner. Stafford? Shirley. Love instead of Goff? Not sure on that. Non-QB vote getter? Bijan Robinson. 1 1 Quote
dorquemada Posted Monday at 05:16 PM Posted Monday at 05:16 PM they'll absolutely award it to lamar. He doesnt even have to play another game this season 6 Quote
H2o Posted Monday at 05:18 PM Posted Monday at 05:18 PM The MVP race is wide open right now. If the Chiefs have flipped that switch, then Mahomes' numbers should continue to skyrocket. He could climb to the top fairly quick. They also get Rice back in 3 weeks. Josh will of course be in the convo. Just now, 4merper4mer said: 1-3 doesn’t help. Trevor Lawrence will make an appearance on this list at some point. The Jags are not a mirage. Lawrence looks like he might have turned a corner. Stafford? Shirley. Love instead of Goff? Not sure on that. Non-QB vote getter? Bijan Robinson. No, he's still as meh and overpaid as ever. He has a 58.3% completion percentage right now. 1 Quote
theAteam Posted Monday at 05:20 PM Posted Monday at 05:20 PM (edited) Surprised Allen is front-running, he hasn't done anything particularly impressive stat-wise. Cook's been the engine of the offense so far (not that I'm complaining). I'm guessing that Week 1 comeback is still driving those odds. Also where is Daniel Jones? I know he's Daniel Jones but he's been playing very well so far. Edited Monday at 05:21 PM by theAteam 2 1 Quote
NewEra Posted Monday at 05:22 PM Posted Monday at 05:22 PM @FranchiseSavior Lamar still better than Allen? Did he injure his hammy? Or did he quit on his team in the 3rd quarter while down 17. 3 weeks after losing a 15 point lead with 4 minutes left? this is part of what sets the 2 apart. Josh all day baby. All heart 💙 ♥️ 2 minutes ago, theAteam said: Surprised Allen is front-running, he hasn't done anything particularly impressive stat-wise. Cook's been the engine of the offense so far (not that I'm complaining). I'm guessing that Week 1 comeback is still driving those odds. Also where is Daniel Jones? I know he's Daniel Jones but he's been playing very well so far. Hes the best player in the world. Thats why you shouldn’t be surprised. but i agree with why you are surprised. Cook has been the engine this year. Partially because the defense is so worried about Josh 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted Monday at 05:24 PM Posted Monday at 05:24 PM 2 minutes ago, H2o said: No, he's still as meh and overpaid as ever. He has a 58.3% completion percentage right now. He also gutted out a couple big wins including yesterday. He is playing with more fire. I by no means think he will win. I just said he’ll hit the odds board. Either they are a good team or the 49ers are bad. Because watching that game yesterday it was 100% clear which team is better. Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 05:25 PM Posted Monday at 05:25 PM Yes...Herbert should be MVP while struggling every week to hit 20 points a game... 2 Quote
BillytheKid Posted Monday at 05:41 PM Author Posted Monday at 05:41 PM Allen is 2nd in QBR 4th in passer rating 6th in passing yards per game 4th in total yards per game by a QB 2nd in Total TD’s 6th completion percentage 5th net passing yards per play Buffalo 2nd in ppg offense Buffalo 2nd yards per game Buffalo 1st in rushing yards per game All of that along with Buffalo being 4-0 is why Allen is leading. None of the other QB’s are even close to the top 5 or top 10 in this many categories, other than Lamar, but since Baltimore is 1-3 and he looked bad yesterday he has dropped down. 2 3 Quote
Toledo Bill Posted Monday at 05:45 PM Posted Monday at 05:45 PM 19 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yes...Herbert should be MVP while struggling every week to hit 20 points a game... So tired of (*^*&%^$^#Harbaugh saying Herbert is the best QB. Quote
LabattBlue Posted Monday at 05:48 PM Posted Monday at 05:48 PM Betting odds mean nothing. How about a thread with running totals for the frontrunners? 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted Monday at 05:50 PM Posted Monday at 05:50 PM Lamar has it. He always has it. Quote
BillytheKid Posted Monday at 05:52 PM Author Posted Monday at 05:52 PM 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Betting odds mean nothing. How about a thread with running totals for the frontrunners? They don’t mean anything? lol… (you wanna bet) They mean everything. These are the front runners. Every person that has been the betting favorite at the end of the year or all but one the last 25 years has won the MVP. So I would say it matters more than anything else when trying to figure out who wins it. 1 Quote
T.E. Posted Monday at 05:53 PM Posted Monday at 05:53 PM Baker Mayfield at +2200 seems like it has good value. 2 Quote
Charles Romes Posted Monday at 05:53 PM Posted Monday at 05:53 PM 36 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: 1-3 doesn’t help. Trevor Lawrence will make an appearance on this list at some point. The Jags are not a mirage. Lawrence looks like he might have turned a corner. Stafford? Shirley. Love instead of Goff? Not sure on that. Non-QB vote getter? Bijan Robinson. Did you see him run out of bounds when they needed to run clock. He tends to get a little worse the higher the stakes. He torched Elam, but who doesn’t? Quote
hondo in seattle Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Posted Monday at 05:55 PM 8 minutes ago, BillytheKid said: Allen is 2nd in QBR 4th in passer rating 6th in passing yards per game 4th in total yards per game by a QB 2nd in Total TD’s 6th completion percentage 5th net passing yards per play Buffalo 2nd in ppg offense Buffalo 2nd yards per game Buffalo 1st in rushing yards per game All of that along with Buffalo being 4-0 is why Allen is leading. None of the other QB’s are even close to the top 5 or top 10 in this many categories, other than Lamar, but since Baltimore is 1-3 and he looked bad yesterday he has dropped down. But why isn't the QB who's #1 in QBR, passer rating, TDs, or yards per game the leading MVP candidate. As you know, stats matter. But so does the eye test, context, hype, personality, and wins. It's a complicated, subjective evaluation with many considerations, not all of which are fair. Quote
MJS Posted Monday at 05:56 PM Posted Monday at 05:56 PM With KC and Baltimore losing games, it makes sense for Allen to be leading. The MVP usually goes to the QB of the best team, and the Bills are the best team in the league right now, even if his numbers aren't eye popping. But it is really early. Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 05:56 PM Posted Monday at 05:56 PM 9 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: So tired of (*^*&%^$^#Harbaugh saying Herbert is the best QB. Best QB at putting up a bunch of meaningless stats instead of scoring points which is what actually matters. 1 Quote
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