Game week thread - Saints at Bills

[balln]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I would agree with that

 

so we should bring up Logue and exhaust his last ps call up to play the Saints?  And then what do we do with him?  Keep him up and IR sanders with a fake injury?  Cut him?  
 

bringing up Logue this week would’ve been a stupid idea for many reasons.  Calling him up and using up his eligibility because he’s playing his position better than TJ (a rookie that needs snaps in order to improve) would’ve been stupid.  Glad Beane doesn’t agree with your assessment 

No I’m not advocating for calling up logue for this week. I’m just really interested in how the bills are going to manage the roster and this position in the next 3 weeks

[Low Positive]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Just went back to 2020 and yeah there's losses but not really anything that would be considered a trap game 

 

Even in 2022 with a really good Minnesota team coming in the next week we lost to the Jets in a rough game.. Jets were like five and three.. not exactly bottom feeding 

 

I'm going back to 2020 and I'm not really seeing a true trap game loss even though we have had games where we don't look sharp

Always remember the Jags.

[boyst]

I never figured Simon for a guard. I thought he'd be a tackle or maybe even a punter. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Always remember the Jags.

Yeah but we were playing a terrible Jets team the next week so it does not qualify as a traditional trap game it's just a bad game by the bills 

 

They didn't have a big time team coming in the next week which is what a trap game always was

 

Overlooking a bad opponent for a better opponent the next week 

 

Just overlooking a bad opponent isn't a trap game

Edited September 28 by Buffalo716

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, finn said:

I don't think I and others were wrong criticizing Brown. He WAS awful, a real liability. But people were calling him to be benched, not cut. That might have been the best choice. He learned, but only by risking Allen's health. 

 

Um, you have to ask who would have been better who was on the team at the time?

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

Can I play?

 

 Your turn

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Um, you have to ask who would have been better who was on the team at the time?

 

 Your turn

 

Nobody would have played better than Spencer 

 

 his run blocking grades were at the top of his rookie class definitely top five

 

And he showed enough in pass protection that the potential was basically limitless for a right tackle

Edited September 28 by Buffalo716

[Shortchaz]

17 minutes ago, balln said:

No I’m not advocating for calling up logue for this week. I’m just really interested in how the bills are going to manage the roster and this position in the next 3 weeks

Heavy rotation 

[nedboy7]

Through three games, the Bills are averaging the most total yards per game (420) and most rushing yards per game (163). They're scoring on 59.4% of their drives, good for 2nd best in the NFL.

The Bills are also the first team in NFL history to win three games, score at least 100 points, record zero turnovers and less than 15 penalties and average at least 150 rushing yards and 250 passing yards per game through three weeks according to Opta Stats.

[Richard Noggin]

2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Nobody would have played better than Spencer 

 

 his run blocking grades were at the top of his rookie class definitely top five

 

And he showed enough in pass protection that the potential was basically limitless for a right tackle

 

He looked to me live like he lost a handful of pass pro snaps last week, which has NOT been the norm for a decent stretch now. Could that be related to this "calf" injury designation that showed up this week? Seems like Brown hadn't been beat around the edge much while mostly healthy the last year or two, whereas we definitely saw some blatant pressures allowed early on in his career as he apparently battled back from a back injury. 

 

35 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Through three games, the Bills are averaging the most total yards per game (420) and most rushing yards per game (163). They're scoring on 59.4% of their drives, good for 2nd best in the NFL.

The Bills are also the first team in NFL history to win three games, score at least 100 points, record zero turnovers and less than 15 penalties and average at least 150 rushing yards and 250 passing yards per game through three weeks according to Opta Stats.

 

SUPER buttoned-up execution, and a real testament to McD and Josh Allen growing together towards the cleanest, most physical, most "winning" football formula. The real question remains: will this ultra-balanced, ultra-protective approach ever work in the playoffs against the league's best offenses and defenses? We know it works against the vast majority of regular season opponents. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

He looked to me live like he lost a handful of pass pro snaps last week, which has NOT been the norm for a decent stretch now. Could that be related to this "calf" injury designation that showed up this week? Seems like Brown hadn't been beat around the edge much while mostly healthy the last year or two, whereas we definitely saw some blatant pressures allowed early on in his career as he apparently battled back from a back injury. 

 

 

SUPER buttoned-up execution, and a real testament to McD and Josh Allen growing together towards the cleanest, most physical, most "winning" football formula. The real question remains: will this ultra-balanced, ultra-protective approach ever work in the playoffs against the league's best offenses and defenses? We know it works against the vast majority of regular season opponents. 

Sure it could be hampering him but I think he is still playing well

 

He knows what Josh likes as in blocking patterns and if you're going to miss where to miss 

 

Like you can't get beat this way clean but if you're going to get beat clean it's got to be this way because I can handle it better 

 

Josh has a tremendous sense off the defensive left side, so the right tackle, and if a Spencer Brown whiff is even in a spot where Josh excels... Sure it's a lost rep but it can still be a won play

 

Ideally you'd want Spencer to win every rep.. but if on the occasional reps he is losing,  it's where Josh is comfortable with pressure we can still get positive plays... Because Josh feels frontside pressure very well 

 

 

 

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Sure it could be hampering him but I think he is still playing well

 

He knows what Josh likes as in blocking patterns and if you're going to miss where to miss 

 

Like you can't get beat this way clean but if you're going to get beat clean it's got to be this way because I can handle it better 

 

Josh has a tremendous sense off the defensive left side, so the right tackle, and if a Spencer Brown whiff is even in a spot where Josh excels... Sure it's a lost rep but it can still be a won play

 

Ideally you'd want Spencer to win every rep.. but if on the occasional reps he is losing,  it's where Josh is comfortable with pressure we can still get positive plays... Because Josh feels frontside pressure very well 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just wonder if the calf injury happened during the Dolphins game or even right beforehand, as what we saw at times last week was well below Brown's own established standards. 

 

And as for the bolded (emphasis mine of course), Allen has been super decisive and mobile in the pocket so far this season, improving upon his established abilities to evade pressure while keeping his eyes downfield. He's frequently stepped up into the A and B gaps to his left side, to my eye, without becoming a declared runner and still delivering strikes. Incredible ability to see and feel and evade the rush while also remaining a passer. How many would-be sacks and/or forced throwaways does Allen turn into positive plays? The offensive line in Buffalo is good, no doubt, but they are made to look MUCH better due to their QB's ELITE evasiveness. As long as only one guy allows early pressure, Allen will pick them up. Almost every time. 

 

[YattaOkasan]

12 hours ago, NewEra said:

Ftr- not me!   I was down on him after his drop in a big way.  But I was also higher on him than pretty much everyone on this board. So after the drop- I just stopped expecting him to become kelce 2.0. Never wanted to trade him for day 3 picks!
 

Throughout the season I had commented on how he was getting open and Josh and him just weren’t on the same page or Josh would throw a bad ball.  Which was all confirmed by stats- but disagreed upon by several at the time.  

While we’re all eating crow I’ll eat some on the Kincaid and Josh connection. Thought it was small sample size and not that too far off from clicking. Issue continued or worsened as sample size increased. 

[vanislebills44]

switched cable providers n dont get ctv ontario anymore, on vancouver island, only get some other sh!t...game not on the cr@p i got...pt being, havent missed a game in years....any1 know any site i can possibly watch er on??...take care, n LETS GOOOOOOOOOO BUFFALO

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I just wonder if the calf injury happened during the Dolphins game or even right beforehand, as what we saw at times last week was well below Brown's own established standards. 

 

And as for the bolded (emphasis mine of course), Allen has been super decisive and mobile in the pocket so far this season, improving upon his established abilities to evade pressure while keeping his eyes downfield. He's frequently stepped up into the A and B gaps to his left side, to my eye, without becoming a declared runner and still delivering strikes. Incredible ability to see and feel and evade the rush while also remaining a passer. How many would-be sacks and/or forced throwaways does Allen turn into positive plays? The offensive line in Buffalo is good, no doubt, but they are made to look MUCH better due to their QB's ELITE evasiveness. As long as only one guy allows early pressure, Allen will pick them up. Almost every time. 

 

Ofc Josh is a wizard 

[Solomon Grundy]

Crucial Catch is the theme this week at Highmark 

[Buffalo716]

I see a ty Johnson receiving touchdown wheel route over the shoulder 

[Sojourner]

2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Ofc Josh is a wizard 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

10 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

 

You guys got me to thinking so I looked it up. Per AI:

 

The biggest point spread upset in NFL history occurred in Super Bowl III when the New York Jets, 

18-point underdogs, defeated the Baltimore Colts 16–7. 

 

 

Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of a Billsy loss?

 

I had no idea. That makes Namath’s declaration even more impressive. 

[BlueRed]

5 hours ago, vanislebills44 said:

switched cable providers n dont get ctv ontario anymore, on vancouver island, only get some other sh!t...game not on the cr@p i got...pt being, havent missed a game in years....any1 know any site i can possibly watch er on??...take care, n LETS GOOOOOOOOOO BUFFALO

Not sure if this would work for you, but some of the online sportsbooks have been live streaming games on their app for users that place a bet on the game. 

I’ve used it a bunch already this year to watch games I didn’t have available. 
This weeks bills game is available it looks like on the DraftKings app - IDK if there is a bet amount limit, but I usually do a dollar and it lets me live-stream the game (and half the time my bet actually wins! Haha)

[vanislebills44]

2 hours ago, BlueRed said:

Not sure if this would work for you, but some of the online sportsbooks have been live streaming games on their app for users that place a bet on the game. 

I’ve used it a bunch already this year to watch games I didn’t have available. 
This weeks bills game is available it looks like on the DraftKings app - IDK if there is a bet amount limit, but I usually do a dollar and it lets me live-stream the game (and half the time my bet actually wins! Haha)

ok thanx bud, ill try that maybe.....

gotta get my tv box up n goin, got er last week......anyways, thanx n take care....cheers......LETS GOOOOOOOOO BUFFALOOOOOOO