Jackson Hawes is great

[chris heff]

I can’t believe the moderators haven’t intervened. No one has mentioned that Hawes went to Yale or that Karl Malone is his illegitimate father. I very much disappointed.

[Augie]

Hawes is not too bad for a guy picked at the end of the 5th round. Like Knox, you can get guys like that a bit later than you might think who don’t have big college numbers, but they have what it takes. I think Hawes is looking very good so far on what I’ve watched closely. 

[Dafan]

7 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I can’t believe the moderators haven’t intervened. No one has mentioned that Hawes went to Yale or that Karl Malone is his illegitimate father. I very much disappointed.

That's jackson hayes...not hawes.  For reference to Malone.

Edited Monday at 09:37 PM by Dafan

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

12 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I can’t believe the moderators haven’t intervened. No one has mentioned that Hawes went to Yale or that Karl Malone is his illegitimate father. I very much disappointed.

He also played at Marv Levy's alma mater.

[WeckMonster]

22 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Respectable blocker doesn’t mean Kincaid is a good blocker but he’s a willing blocker and not bad at it…

Agree. Especially blocking on the perimeter on WR screens, end around, etc. He used to whiff on those but seems to be much better at engaging, staying in contact, blocking through the whistle, etc.

[Logic]

Where Hawes transforms the Bills offense is this: They can use him as the "6th O-lineman" in jumbo sets, but he's an actual threat to catch the ball, unlike Alec Anderson.

I could be mistaken, but I don't believe I've seen the Bills roll out a 6OL package yet this season. I HAVE seen (especially against the Jets) a good amount of 12 and 13 personnel.

Hawes is Lee Smith Jr. 

For the Bills to say he was the best blocking tight end they've EVER evaluated, and for him to already be getting this much time on the field...you know he's special as a blocker at that position.

Dawson Knox is set to make $17million next year. Given the realistic constraints of the salary cap, people aren't wrong to say that long term, Hawes' presence could spell the end of Knox's Bills tenure. Going forward, a Hawes-Kincaid duo at TE could indeed be the thing.

And if Hawes is able to develop the receiving part of his game? Look out, man.

 

Edited Monday at 09:43 PM by Logic

[chris heff]

3 minutes ago, Dafan said:

That's jackson hayes...not hawes.  For reference to Malone.

It was a joke, Hawes did go to Yale. When Fitz was Bills QB, announcers couldn’t get out a paragraph without mentioning he went to Harvard. There was an also a Bills player whose name I can’t recall, who was Malone’s son. Announcers would always point it out.

[muppy]

57 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Watching the Jets game again, and also thinking about his performance against the Ravens… Hawes is a baller.

 

The guy LOVES contact. I genuinely think he craves it. He engages the block, drives his defender backward and does not stop until after the whistle.

 

I can’t remember the last time i’ve seen a Bills TE who can block this well. Maybe ever?

 

He may make Knox disposable. Especially with his constant propensity to drop balls.

having a young guy like that on the team and watching her develop his complete game  is going to be great fun to watch. I predict he becomes a fan favorite

 

He reminds me of a throwback type player. Old School Tough. Tough Minded. I like that a lot

[Victory Formation]

I’m disappointed in Knox. It would be great if Hawes could develop into TE#2.
 

Hopefully he can develop into more of a pass catcher.

[Jauronimo]

26 minutes ago, chris heff said:

It was a joke, Hawes did go to Yale. When Fitz was Bills QB, announcers couldn’t get out a paragraph without mentioning he went to Harvard. There was an also a Bills player whose name I can’t recall, who was Malone’s son. Announcers would always point it out.

That was Demetress "Don't Call Me Demetrius" Bell.  

 

Another fun fact, Hawes was actually an accomplished lacrosse player at Yale and wears wedding rings on both hands when he plays despite being an eligible bachelor.  

Edited Monday at 10:11 PM by Jauronimo

[Dafan]

27 minutes ago, chris heff said:

It was a joke, Hawes did go to Yale. When Fitz was Bills QB, announcers couldn’t get out a paragraph without mentioning he went to Harvard. There was an also a Bills player whose name I can’t recall, who was Malone’s son. Announcers would always point it out.

That was Demetrius Bell.  He was the son of the 13 yr old Malone had "relations" with.

[Captain_Quint]

34 minutes ago, WeckMonster said:

Agree. Especially blocking on the perimeter on WR screens, end around, etc. He used to whiff on those but seems to be much better at engaging, staying in contact, blocking through the whistle, etc.

I think it was the Moore run this week that I noticed Kincaid drive his guy right off the screen. 

 

[warrior9]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

Watching the Jets game again, and also thinking about his performance against the Ravens… Hawes is a baller.

 

The guy LOVES contact. I genuinely think he craves it. He engages the block, drives his defender backward and does not stop until after the whistle.

 

I can’t remember the last time i’ve seen a Bills TE who can block this well. Maybe ever?

 

He may make Knox disposable. Especially with his constant propensity to drop balls.

I think he makes Gilliam disposable. He has no need to be on this team with Hawes. Hawes can line up at TE and FB and get him more snaps on the field. Someone like him should be on the field a good amount of time in 22 or 12 personnel 

38 minutes ago, Logic said:

Where Hawes transforms the Bills offense is this: They can use him as the "6th O-lineman" in jumbo sets, but he's an actual threat to catch the ball, unlike Alec Anderson.

I could be mistaken, but I don't believe I've seen the Bills roll out a 6OL package yet this season. I HAVE seen (especially against the Jets) a good amount of 12 and 13 personnel.

Hawes is Lee Smith Jr. 

For the Bills to say he was the best blocking tight end they've EVER evaluated, and for him to already be getting this much time on the field...you know he's special as a blocker at that position.

Dawson Knox is set to make $17million next year. Given the realistic constraints of the salary cap, people aren't wrong to say that long term, Hawes' presence could spell the end of Knox's Bills tenure. Going forward, a Hawes-Kincaid duo at TE could indeed be the thing.

And if Hawes is able to develop the receiving part of his game? Look out, man.

 

Hawes is 100x more athletic than Lee Smith could ever dream of. They aren't the same except for their desire to get their nose dirty. 

[khlax3]

Jawed is great and Kincaid seems to improved this year. I think the bills and Allen love Knox. His wife and her family are from Buffalo. I expect Knox will be around a while at a reduced contract. I think next year he saves 9 million against the cap with an 8 million cap hit. I would expect he takes a cut and we save like 7 million against the cap. 

[Nephilim17]

1 hour ago, gobills404 said:

Two weeks in a row

 

How is Cook not part of this list?

And, yes, if Hawes continues to be a beast, I might just get me his jersey.

Edited Monday at 10:27 PM by Nephilim17

[gonzo1105]

Knox has a huge cap hit next year. Hawes, who I was high on pre draft, forces Knox to take a pay cut to keep the room intact next year, or allows the Bills the leverage to release him if necessary 

[Neo]

If the Bills drafted backwards, taking their last pick first, their second last second, and so on …. Beane would be considered draft day wizard.

[Einstein]

9 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

How is Cook not part of this list?
 

 

He was benched after the fumble.

[gobills404]

17 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

How is Cook not part of this list?

And, yes, if Hawes continues to be a beast, I might just get me his jersey.

He narrowly missed it by 2 points. Guessing the fumble hurt a lot.

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

Watching the Jets game again, and also thinking about his performance against the Ravens… Hawes is a baller.

 

The guy LOVES contact. I genuinely think he craves it. He engages the block, drives his defender backward and does not stop until after the whistle.

 

I can’t remember the last time i’ve seen a Bills TE who can block this well. Maybe ever?

 

He may make Knox disposable. Especially with his constant propensity to drop balls.

Knox was that guy. Angry runs. recall those

 

love the Hawes

But still love Dawson too. Let it ride😉