GunnerBill Posted September 15 Posted September 15 11 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: 1. Yesterday was a great day for the defense because the QB they faced shouldn't be anywhere near a NFL roster let alone starting for one. The guy doesn't know how to throw a football 2. his snap counts are getting lower each season, week one he only played about 35% of the snaps and last year he was around 50% for the entire season compared to 2022 and 2023 being 90% He has banged up and missed games last year and the Bills always try and run more base against Baltimore. That explains #2. He isn't quite the force now though that he was Taron. Last year was probably his worst since his rookie year. And Cam Lewis played really well in his absence yesterday. 2 Quote
stevewin Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, Danger Mouse said: Not sure he's an incompetent coach. It's a seriously difficult job and he's still a young man. But he looks fried and his head has gone. He needs a year break at least, you'd think. For his own good. In elite sport, it's how you handle defeat that really makes the great ones great. I was watching the Panthers' coach yesterday and that lad has the mindset. Not too high, not too low. Let the fans show the emotion, you just do your job. McD has that quality too. Dan Campbell, for instance, looks like he's a 4-game losing streak away from driving naked to Canada with a trunk full of hand-grenades. You lose in sport. Things don't go your way sometimes. If you listen to the media and the fans too much, and are too eager to please, the game will surely eat you alive. I don't think any of us really have an inkling what an NFL HC job must be like He may be a good coordinator, X and O's guy, but definitely not a leader of men. All one has to do is watch the in season Hard Knocks to see how awkward and out of place he is as a 'leader' - would be comical if it wasn't so cringe. There's a reason why his word-salad-spewing, nerd/'quirky' persona was so against the typical NFL HC grain - because it doesn't work. I agree with your last sentiment - no one really knows how hard being a HC is, but sometimes it's easy to see when someone doesn't have what it takes Edited September 15 by stevewin 2 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 15 Posted September 15 59 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think it’s going to be an unpopular thought here but I actually think the love affair with Tarron Johnson is a huge issue with our defense. He’s a good player. He might even be a little better than good. He’s absolutely nowhere near as good as he gets credit for. Teams have no issues converting 3rd downs on us, guys running wide open all over the place and he gets hurt multiple times a game. The other thing he does is make our coach believe we never have to put a 3rd LB on the field. They never want to take him out. Him being out yesterday was probably a blessing in disguise. I’m not saying he’s not good. I just feel like the overall game plan becomes a little more sensible when he isn’t out there. The coaches think he’s erasing things that he just flat out isn’t. He’s not 2017 Poyer and Hyde…Yesterday was a great day for our defense. Those days are few and far between. Whatever third LB we would’ve added in some of these past seasons would’ve been straight up incompetent which hasn’t helped lol I think we’re in better shape at LB this year so we’ll probably see some more of it Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 15 Posted September 15 15 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I was. They had come out swinging in Week 1. I even watched the game and while not elite I thought they could game plan to attack our weak spots. Apparently they sleepwalked through the week because just sweet mercy... The Bills are the better team, but I honestly thought the Jets would show more life. They were sloppy and with the difference level of talent the Bills just had to be competent and they were that and more that’s a horrible QB room. It posed no threat. A little life to show? I guess. But this outcome shouldn’t have been in doubt. Quote
billsfan89 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think it’s going to be an unpopular thought here but I actually think the love affair with Tarron Johnson is a huge issue with our defense. He’s a good player. He might even be a little better than good. He’s absolutely nowhere near as good as he gets credit for. Teams have no issues converting 3rd downs on us, guys running wide open all over the place and he gets hurt multiple times a game. The other thing he does is make our coach believe we never have to put a 3rd LB on the field. They never want to take him out. Him being out yesterday was probably a blessing in disguise. I’m not saying he’s not good. I just feel like the overall game plan becomes a little more sensible when he isn’t out there. The coaches think he’s erasing things that he just flat out isn’t. He’s not 2017 Poyer and Hyde…Yesterday was a great day for our defense. Those days are few and far between. Tarron is a high end slot corner, there's a good reason he was an All-Pro, I think the issues you have with him are more so on the defensive scheme as opposed to how good Tarron is. Quote
Big Turk Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Big Dubs featuring a Josh Allen "nose check" 😂 1 11 1 Quote
muppy Posted September 15 Posted September 15 11 hours ago, Special K said: Remember when everybody thought Bosa was washed?? Maybe he just hated playing for the Chargers. He seems to be having a career resurgence here in Buffalo...........I really hope he stays healthy🤞 PREACH! every word I agree with 100% Great post 1 Quote
Logic Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) Yesterday's game reminded me so much of a typical AFC East game during the Patriots dynasty years, with the Bills playing the part of the Pats. A plucky upstart team with a new head coach, coming off a big week 1 moral victory, with a new QB that has everyone hopeful that "this year might be different!". Going against the five time defending division champs, a well-oiled machine, marching in to town with their franchise QB. Just like all those Pats dynasty years, the team that runs the division put those thoughts to bed quickly. They repeatedly and methodically stamped out any hope the upstart team's fans may have had, and reminded everyone just how big the gap is between a team like the Jets and a team like the Bills. Yesterday's win reminded me of those Pats years because it was...ho-hum, in a way. It was unspectacular. The Bills simply played sound fundamental football in all three phases, allowed the other team to make mistakes, and beat them convincingly, because they're better and more disciplined at playing football. The franchise QB didn't have a particularly memorable day, there was maybe one SportsCenter worthy play all game (and it came from a running back). It was just a good old fashioned three phase, fundamental boot whoopin. During the Pats dynasty years, you had to play almost perfect football to have a shot at beating them. Nowadays, you have to play almost perfect football to beat Sean McDermott's Bills. The Jets didn't even come close to doing that yesterday, so they lost convincingly. The Bills, to me, look to be in midseason form. They just look like an operation that's been doing it for years, has certain standards and expectations, and a certain way of doing things. They look like a well-oiled machine, who can beat you on any given day with either a passing or running game, defense, special teams, or any combination of those things. With their field general star quarterback, their motley crew of "do your job" receivers, their good play in the trenches, and their (mostly) no-name, "do your job" defense, they reminded me exactly of the dynasty era Patriots. Feels much better to be on this end of things. Edited September 15 by Logic 8 1 Quote
muppy Posted September 15 Posted September 15 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Big Dubs featuring a Josh Allen "nose check" 😂 LOL can I adore Josh Allen any more than I already do? NOPE he is the cherry on the sundae people and I also think he married the perfect woman for him. what a Power couple 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) I am almost crying from laughing so hard...this is hilarious... Edited September 15 by Big Turk 1 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted September 15 Posted September 15 43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He has banged up and missed games last year and the Bills always try and run more base against Baltimore. That explains #2. He isn't quite the force now though that he was Taron. Last year was probably his worst since his rookie year. And Cam Lewis played really well in his absence yesterday. In fairness, didn’t Taron play thru a torn labrum last season that needed surgery? Not ready to kick him to the curb. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: that’s a horrible QB room. It posed no threat. A little life to show? I guess. But this outcome shouldn’t have been in doubt. I think some real impressive performances on the dline that will be relevant against other teams going forward made fields look especially inept in this one. this team is lookin like it’s got championship caliber depth to me and they’ve got a good chance to survive the inevitable top tier defensive player injury against the playoff chiefs this year 😂 Dorian Strong and Logue lookin like competent players at minimum is huge Edited September 15 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted September 15 Posted September 15 19 hours ago, gobills404 said: Biggest difference between these 2 elite corners 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/did-aaron-glenn-send-harsh-message-cutting-returner-who-fumbled-jets-players-say-its-not-that-simple-033306952.html ““You will not be on this field with this team,” the New York Jets first-year head coach said, “if you’re going to cause us to lose games.” (Glenn said this about cutting Xavier Gipson after their week one loss) So is he going to bench/cut half his team this week, or…? 😂 Yeah with the whole consensus that the Jets had actually played much better than anyone thought they would it's not really a great look to come down super hard on a player at that particular moment, you should be building your guys up not knocking them down. Hell he needed them all to believe they could hang with a team that's been beating them like a drum on the regular. 2 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 16 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I am almost crying from laughing so hard...this is hilarious... There was no Joe benigno! thatbdide with the casual in just had foot surgery……today you already had it? Yea I just had it. lol Quote
Big Turk Posted September 15 Posted September 15 2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: There was no Joe benigno! thatbdide with the casual in just had foot surgery……today you already had it? Yea I just had it. lol I believe that was him talking for the first almost hour on the show...the old dude with the handle bar moustache? 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I believe that was him talking for the first almost hour on the show...the old dude with the handle bar moustache? It was live apparently so when i clicked on it there were random fans talking. Yea that was joe at the start. the one guy was nuts, said he was going to shoot his jets inflatable in his yard then randomly dropped that he just got home from surgery. Like an snl skit Quote
Big Turk Posted September 15 Posted September 15 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/did-aaron-glenn-send-harsh-message-cutting-returner-who-fumbled-jets-players-say-its-not-that-simple-033306952.html ““You will not be on this field with this team,” the New York Jets first-year head coach said, “if you’re going to cause us to lose games.” (Glenn said this about cutting Xavier Gipson after their week one loss) So is he going to bench/cut half his team this week, or…? 😂 Wonder if he is going to fire himself for not having the team prepared to play a football game. 37 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: It was live apparently so when i clicked on it there were random fans talking. Yea that was joe at the start. the one guy was nuts, said he was going to shoot his jets inflatable in his yard then randomly dropped that he just got home from surgery. Like an snl skit I mean you do crazy things when you are about to hit 15 years in a playoff drought and seemingly no way out...just ask Sabres fans 😂 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 15 hours ago, wjag said: It only took me a few posts on the first page of a 45 page thread to find "Let him play out 2025 and then walk." There is always a line. If he wanted 20m would you still sign him. If he wanted 30m would you still sign him. 15m is what he wanted. That to me is too much money. As far as I know most everyone though 10-12m was about right. Trying to call out people for not wanting to overpay for a RB seems silly. Most people know what talent he brings. 14 hours ago, thewookie1 said: Honestly curious, if we wanted to, could we just leave him on IR longer than 4 weeks? Yes, they can leave him on IR all year if they wanted to. Quote
Big Turk Posted September 15 Posted September 15 2 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: 1. Yesterday was a great day for the defense because the QB they faced shouldn't be anywhere near a NFL roster let alone starting for one. The guy doesn't know how to throw a football 2. his snap counts are getting lower each season, week one he only played about 35% of the snaps and last year he was around 50% for the entire season compared to 2022 and 2023 being 90% Honestly he looked a lot like the QB they played when they went to Chicago and destroyed the Bears, minus the one deep bomb he threw and completed in that game that was amazing. Quote
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