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2 hours ago, Virgil said:

Something about this game makes me nervous.  While Fields and Hall aren't Lamar and Henry, they still seem to run the same read-option offense that we can struggle with.  The defense has been known to give Josh fits and we are coming off a very emotional win.

 

I'm hoping this isn't a letdown game, but wouldn't be surprised if it happened.  

I don't get all the letdown talk on here.  They got gashed for a majority of the game, and it took a miraculous 4th Q to win it - there is no complacency and no one is resting on their laurels as a result of that game.  If anything it will turn up the focus and urgency - it's obvious to everyone in the building there is a ton of work to do to fix what was wrong.  To me it's the opposite of a letdown game - it's a 'get right', 'play how we know we can' game

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38 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Any minute Josh is probably about to be named offensive  AFC player of the week lol

 

He did win the first "Himmy" award for this season on MNF. So, he has that going for him right now :)

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1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

I'm quite sure McDermott's approach isn't what transpired. The players still need to play well, regardless of the approach. It was week 1, we DO have some undersized players on D, and the Ravens ARE a great team. We were always going to give up points and yards to the Ravens. We just were. Sure, lots of the D didn't play well, but again, I don't think it's because McDermott had a bad plan.

Maybe not. The Athletic has some film analysis of three or four defensive breakdowns, and in at least some of them the Bills players were in position to make the tackle but just didn't. DeQuan played like he didn't have arms, Rousseau got knocked down at least once, Sanders was walled off or slow off the snap, Rapp was just slow period, Bernard and Milano kept running the wrong way or got blocked, and Bishop, well... Only Oliver, Bosa, and Benford appeared to play well (based on this and a few other analyses I saw), while Dorian Strong held his own for the most part. 

 

If all this is fair, maybe you're right we can't blame McDermott's approach. Maybe this was just a truly bad performance of a good defense, or a predictably performance of a mediocre defense against an excellent offense. I would opt for the latter, with the proviso that the young players should improve. 

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8 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I don't get all the letdown talk on here.  They got gashed for a majority of the game - there is no complacency and no one is resting on their laurels as a result of that game.  If anything it will turn up the focus and urgency - it's obvious to everyone in the building there is a ton of work to do to fix what was wrong.  To me it's the opposite of a letdown game - it's a 'get right, 'play how we know we can' game

 

I also have a hard time believing there could be a letdown against a divisional rival. Every game is important, but the divisional games have extra importance since these are the games you have to win to win the division.

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Josh Allen has struggled against the Jets defense. This isn't that Jets defense anymore. They have about 3/4 new players and an entirely different scheme. I am not saying he WON'T struggle, im just saying we can't base predictions based on previous performance against this defense. 

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1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

Josh Allen has struggled against the Jets defense. This isn't that Jets defense anymore. They have about 3/4 new players and an entirely different scheme. I am not saying he WON'T struggle, im just saying we can't base predictions based on previous performance against this defense. 

Hopefully it’s the exact same scheme as Detroit last year. Heheheh

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https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/jets-sign-isaiah-williams-release-xavier-gipson-09-10-2025

 

The Jets have signed WR Isaiah Williams and released WR Xavier Gipson.

Williams (5-10, 185), a second-year player from Illinois, joins the Green & White after a stint on the Cincinnati Bengals' practice squad. An undrafted free agent who signed with the Detroit Lions on May 10, 2024, Williams started his rookie season with Detroit before being waived by the Lions on Nov. 7. Appearing in 8 games (2 with Detroit and 6 with Cincinnati), Williams had 11 PRs for 93 yards (8.5 average) with the Bengals.

The St. Louis, MO native led the Big Ten in 2023 in receptions (82) and ranked second in receiving yards (1055), while returning 11 punts for 127 yards (11.5). He was named first-team All-Big Ten as a WR and honorable mention All-Big Ten as a return specialist.

Gipson (5-9, 189), a Stephen F. Austin product who signed with the Jets as an undrafted free agent in 2023, played 35 games for the Green & White and had 27 receptions for 268 yards with 1 TD. He averaged 8.9 yards on 68 punt returns with 1 TD and also averaged 26 yards on 44 kick returns.

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35 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Something about this game makes me nervous.  While Fields and Hall aren't Lamar and Henry, they still seem to run the same read-option offense that we can struggle with.  The defense has been known to give Josh fits and we are coming off a very emotional win.

 

I'm hoping this isn't a letdown game, but wouldn't be surprised if it happened.  

 

Do we struggle with the read option, or do we struggle with the combo of Henry and Lamar (like almost everyone else)?

 

We even used to handle Lamar the first few times we played him, pre Henry. I'm honestly asking, because I don't recall other read option schemes or scrambling QBs giving us fits.

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52 minutes ago, boyst said:

Did pretty good on parlays I advise to colleague last week... So I'll come up with a few here. 

 

Shakir +50 yards

Coleman +40 yards

Hall TD

Allen 2 TD

Wilson +70 yards

 

Last week I had

Henry td

Allen TD

Cook td

Jackson +30 yards

Allen +25 yards 

$15 won 168

 

I failed 

Henry TD

Jackson +40

Coleman +30

Knox +15

... Because I said Ty Johnson gets a TD.

 

He had it on his finger tips. $5 would have won $333

 

 

Ty should have had that ball. It was an uncharacteristic drop for him. Almost!

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3 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Over on TheGangGreen.com, many Jests fans are expecting their boys to get steamrolled by the Bills:

 

 

TheGangGreen

"Watching the Bills Ravens game, in the 4th quarter I wanted the Bills to come back. We'll get them in a let down trap game. Had they lost that game, we'd have zero chance." 

 

😃

 

Who is our resident trap game expert? @eball?

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1 minute ago, JustHewIt said:

 

Do we struggle with the read option, or do we struggle with the combo of Henry and Lamar (like almost everyone else)?

 

We even used to handle Lamar the first few times we played him, pre Henry. I'm honestly asking, because I don't recall other read option schemes or scrambling QBs giving us fits.


exactly. The reason our DEs weren’t keeping contain is because of how desperate we were to get Henry down.

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Can never hear the questions in these things. Is it really that hard in this day and age to mic the media? I turn on CC and it does an ok job but Id prefer to listen in the background instead of reading this.

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1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

"Watching the Bills Ravens game, in the 4th quarter I wanted the Bills to come back. We'll get them in a let down trap game. Had they lost that game, we'd have zero chance." 

 

😃

 

Who is our resident trap game expert? @eball?


You rang?

 

LOL @ the trap game bunch of knuckleheads. It’s WEEK TWO and a division game. Ain’t nobody lookin’ past nobody. 
 

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1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

Josh Allen has struggled against the Jets defense. This isn't that Jets defense anymore. They have about 3/4 new players and an entirely different scheme. I am not saying he WON'T struggle, im just saying we can't base predictions based on previous performance against this defense. 

Can you describe the new scheme?

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3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Last time I checked, we are quite good at doing both. 

 

Some people don't let facts influence their agendas. 

 

3 hours ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

Interesting stats from NFL week 1:

 

Top scoring teams:

1.  Buffalo 41

2. Baltimore 40

3. Pittsburgh 34

4. Indianapolis 33

5. NY Jets  32

 

The other 27 teams scored between 6 & 27 points, with an average of 17.8 points per team. 
 

The Bills & Jets games were by far the highest scoring games in week one.  
 

Defense will be the emphasis for both team’s practices this week. 

 

Teams change alot from one season to the next.  Starters don't play much in preseason.   Both offenses and defenses play vanilla schemes.  The coaching staffs make their Week 1 plans as best they can based mostly on last season's performances. That's a recipe for poor play on one or both sides of the ball, which is what we saw from both the Bills and the Ravens on Sunday night ... and the Jests and Steelers among others.

 

2 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

I'm quite sure McDermott's approach isn't what transpired. The players still need to play well, regardless of the approach. It was week 1, we DO have some undersized players on D, and the Ravens ARE a great team. We were always going to give up points and yards to the Ravens. We just were. Sure, lots of the D didn't play well, but again, I don't think it's because McDermott had a bad plan.

 

Don't you know that McDermott is so bad at everything that even McDaniel is better ... he just doesn't have the right QB?

 

/sarcasm off

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1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


exactly. The reason our DEs weren’t keeping contain is because of how desperate we were to get Henry down.

The Steelers, with a pretty good defense, had the same problem in the playoffs last year.

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