I don't EVER want to hear ANYONE say that Lamar is better than Josh Allen EVER AGAIN!!

[BillsFan130]

4 hours ago, Special K said:

 

Actually, he was handed 1 MVP by an agenda-driven media when he was the "shiny new toy" nobody had seen before, then his 2nd MVP was two years ago when he did have Henry....not to mention the fact that Josh Allen should've won MVP that year but the media made up the excuse that Josh had "too many turnovers", so last year, when Josh only threw 6 INT's, they had no excuse to steal another MVP from him.

Haha regardless if he should have won it or not. Saying he's average without Derrick Henry is just crazy.

 

2019 he was the unanimous winner. And even if you don't think he should have won it in 2023, he's top 3 without a question. Not sure how all of that translates to "average".

[Special K]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

Haha regardless if he should have won it or not. Saying he's average without Derrick Henry is just crazy.

 

2019 he was the unanimous winner. And even if you don't think he should have won it in 2023, he's top 3 without a question. Not sure how all of that translates to "average".

 

"Average" may be a little harsh, but Lamar gets, and needs to get, more help from his supporting cast to be successful than any of the other top QB's.

 

You are a little crazy if you think the Ravens would be nearly as good if they didn't have Henry. He obviously affects opposing defenses when he has the ball, but he also affects the way opposing defenses react to plays when he doesn't get the ball.

 

Do you honestly think Lamar could take over a game by passing the ball the way that Josh did last night?? Or the way Mahomes does?? Those two are true QB's who read defenses, manipulate defenses pre-snap, and get their teams out of bad plays and into good plays pre-snap.

 

Lamar does one of three things.....he hands it off to a Hall of Fame RB, he fakes handing it off to a Hall of Fame RB and runs it himself, or he fakes handing it off to a Hall of Fame RB, then fakes running it himself, then throws it to a wide open receiver because the defense is so concerned with the first two scenarios.

 

Funny thing is, Josh or Mahomes could easily run Lamar's offense, but there is no way in heck that Lamar could run the Offense that Josh or Mahomes runs.....thats all you need to know.

Edited September 8 by Special K

[BillsFan130]

23 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

"Average" may be a little harsh, but Lamar gets, and needs to get, more help from his supporting cast to be successful than any of the other top QB's.

 

You are a little crazy if you think the Ravens would be nearly as good if they didn't have Henry. He obviously affects opposing defenses when he has the ball, but he also affects the way opposing defenses react to plays when he doesn't get the ball.

 

Do you honestly think Lamar could take over a game by passing the ball the way that Josh did last night?? Or the way Mahomes does?? Those two are true QB's who read defenses, manipulate defenses pre-snap, and get their teams out of bad plays and into good plays pre-snap.

 

Lamar does one of three things.....he hands it off to a Hall of Fame RB, he fakes handing it off to a Hall of Fame RB and runs it himself, or he fakes handing it off to a Hall of Fame RB, then fakes running it himself, then throws it to a wide open receiver because the defense is so concerned with the first two scenarios.

 

Funny thing is, Josh or Mahomes could easily run Lamar's offense, but there is no way in heck that Lamar could run the Offense that Josh or Mahomes runs.....thats all you need to know.

Per the bolded- Yes and he has done it sooo many times in his career. Literally watch both Bengal games last year. The guy made insane throw after insane throw to rally double digit deficits in the 4th quarter.

 

I really don't get the Lamar hate from your end. He was on his way to a hall of fame career before Henry was even there.

 

Does Henry help him? Of course. But why should Lamar be penalized for that?

 

If that's the case, then Mahomes should be penalized for having Kelce and Andy Reid based on your opinion

[Special K]

So.....what do the Lamar apologists think about him quitting on his team??

 

Million dollar talent with a two cent brain.

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, Special K said:

So.....what do the Lamar apologists think about him quitting on his team??

 

Million dollar talent with a two cent brain.

Lamar is still a great QB and these kind of posts have the unintentional consequence of making the poster look silly.

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

So.....what do the Lamar apologists think about him quitting on his team??

 

Million dollar talent with a two cent brain.

 

He injured his hamstring. He was limping after the game. It's ridiculous to imply he just gave up halfway through the 3rd Quarter, faked an injury, faked a limp, and everyone's covering up for that. Don't know why you're so obsessed with Lamar Jackson and others perceptions. But this ain't it.

 

 

56 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Lamar is still a great QB and these kind of posts have the unintentional consequence of making the poster look silly.

 

100% 

 

I can (sort of) understand the debate on who's better between Josh and Lamar amongst the Bills and Ravens fan bases.

 

But reaching for discussion points like this to argue our guy is better than the other guy is just dumb.

 

They're both amazing QB's. It's dumb for Baltimore fans to imply Josh isn't and it's equally dumb for Buffalo fans to imply Lamar isn't.

Edited Sunday at 11:49 PM by BillsFanForever19

[scuba guy]

55 minutes ago, Special K said:

So.....what do the Lamar apologists think about him quitting on his team??

 

Million dollar talent with a two cent brain.

Wow I do Agee with you this is twice know that he quit on his team

[Dr.Sack]

Lamar was unable to do anything versus the Chiefs outside the first drive everything looked impossible. 

[boyst]

10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He injured his hamstring. He was limping after the game. It's ridiculous to imply he just gave up halfway through the 3rd Quarter, faked an injury, faked a limp, and everyone's covering up for that. Don't know why you're so obsessed with Lamar Jackson and others perceptions. But this ain't it.

 

 

 

100% 

 

I can (sort of) understand the debate on who's better between Josh and Lamar amongst the Bills and Ravens fan bases.

 

But reaching for discussion points like this to argue our guy is better than the other guy is just dumb.

 

They're both amazing QB's. It's dumb for Baltimore fans to imply Josh isn't and it's equally dumb for Buffalo fans to imply Lamar isn't.

bull####. He limped because he is booboo hurt feelings. A real MVP, a real player brings his team back from 17 down to win. Not the apologist BS.

 

If he really is cramping week 4 of an NFL season it shows he's not trainingwell, or doing what it takes to protect and prepare his body.

59 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Lamar is still a great QB and these kind of posts have the unintentional consequence of making the poster look silly.

A great QB who is over celebrated. You don't pull yourself because a boo boo in a game that is probably one of the most important of the season unless you're Lebron soft ass James. 

[Governor]

We won’t ever know if Lamar would’ve been great tonight because he quit in the middle of the game. It goes down as an “incomplete” like my science project in 6th grade.

[Ya Digg?]

Some of y’all let Lamar live in your head as much as Josh lives in most ravens fans heads

 

theres still time, you guys can delete your “he quit on the team” posts before this goes too far 

[dorquemada]

They showed the play a couple times and I just didn't see any kind of weird leg angles or hyperextension so 🤷‍♀️

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

bull####. He limped because he is booboo hurt feelings. A real MVP, a real player brings his team back from 17 down to win. Not the apologist BS.

 

If he really is cramping week 4 of an NFL season it shows he's not trainingwell, or doing what it takes to protect and prepare his body.

 

Do you say that for all the many, many NFL players who pull a hamstring - or just QB's you hold some weird grudge against bc their fans made you upset and in turn you've decided the best course of action was to make yourself sound as ridiculous as they do?

Edited Monday at 01:24 AM by BillsFanForever19

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Do you say that for all the many, many NFL players who pull a hamstring - or just QB's you hold some weird grudge against bc their fans made you upset and in turn you've decided to make yourself sound as ridiculous as them?

Yes, I do. 

 

If you ain't Byron leftwiching when you're injured you ain't doing *****. 

[BillytheKid]

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He injured his hamstring. He was limping after the game. It's ridiculous to imply he just gave up halfway through the 3rd Quarter, faked an injury, faked a limp, and everyone's covering up for that. Don't know why you're so obsessed with Lamar Jackson and others perceptions. But this ain't it.

 

 

 

100% 

 

I can (sort of) understand the debate on who's better between Josh and Lamar amongst the Bills and Ravens fan bases.

 

But reaching for discussion points like this to argue our guy is better than the other guy is just dumb.

 

They're both amazing QB's. It's dumb for Baltimore fans to imply Josh isn't and it's equally dumb for Buffalo fans to imply Lamar isn't.

Even the Baltimore fans are saying he quit on them. So who knows. 
 

He wasn’t playing good before he got hurt anyways. 

36 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Some of y’all let Lamar live in your head as much as Josh lives in most ravens fans heads

 

theres still time, you guys can delete your “he quit on the team” posts before this goes too far 

Ravens fans were the first to say it… 

[T.E.]

49 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Some of y’all let Lamar live in your head as much as Josh lives in most ravens fans heads

 

theres still time, you guys can delete your “he quit on the team” posts before this goes too far 

He quit on a season before, in 2022, because he didn't like his contract situation. Why is it crazy to think he'd quit on a game? Dude is a front-runner.

[behind a post WMS69]

I'm just glad they lost. I hope we don't see them again. I feel like coaching let downs more than anything cost them the last 2 games against us. I do agree that Josh>Lamar, but Lamar is special too. Fortunately some of their coaching decisions have been short bus special.

[Real McClappy]

all I know is you bring the F'ing house against the Ravens every play on D and all will be good. 

[Buffalo716]

On 9/8/2025 at 1:05 PM, Special K said:

 

Actually, he was handed 1 MVP by an agenda-driven media when he was the "shiny new toy" nobody had seen before, then his 2nd MVP was two years ago when he did have Henry....not to mention the fact that Josh Allen should've won MVP that year but the media made up the excuse that Josh had "too many turnovers", so last year, when Josh only threw 6 INT's, they had no excuse to steal another MVP from him.

Technically Lamar does have two MVPs without Derrick Henry though I understand what you're saying 

 

2 years ago when he won his last one Henry wasn't on the Ravens.. Gus Edwards was their starter

[May Day 10]

Jackson's body language sucks