Pats release S Jabrill Peppers

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

The simplest answer is usually the most accurate 

 

The simplest answer is that it’s complicated and a team sport. Joe Montana would have been dog food on a bad team. A QB is indeed a huge thing, but it’s not the only thing. Some people take that too far, imo. Trent Dilfer has a SB ring. It’s not a binary situation. 

[uticaclub]

15 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

The simplest answer is that it’s complicated and a team sport. Joe Montana would have been dog food on a bad team. A QB is indeed a huge thing, but it’s not the only thing. Some people take that too far, imo. Trent Dilfer has a SB ring. It’s not a binary situation. 

Dilfer is an anomaly. Hall of Famers like Brady get drafted in the 6th round every year.

[SCBills]

Seeing the eyeball emojis and wink faces from random Bills content creators on X.  
 

No idea if it’s just speculation or someone, somewhere knowing something. 

[Augie]

17 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Dilfer is an anomaly. Hall of Famers like Brady get drafted in the 6th round every year.

Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Jim Plunkett, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien, and Jeff Hostetler, among others, all won SB’s.  Brady is clearly the anomaly. 

 

I’d prefer our odds with a great QB, but all credit for winning does not go to the QB. There are countless other factors. It’s pretty simple, so I don’t know why you seem compelled to argue that, other than the obvious. I don’t see much point in pursuing this line of discussion. 

[T&C]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Jim Plunkett, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien, and Jeff Hostetler, among others, all won SB’s.  Brady is clearly the anomaly. 

 

I’d prefer our odds with a great QB, but all credit for winning does not go to the QB. There are countless other factors. It’s pretty simple, so I don’t know why you seem compelled to argue that, other than the obvious. I don’t see much point in pursuing this line of discussion. 

I'd throw coaching into the mix... and for say SB25 it would be both sides. Marv was too lenient while Parcells did some serious game planning.

[Augie]

1 minute ago, T&C said:

I'd throw coaching into the mix... and for say SB25 it would be both sides. Marv was too lenient while Parcells did some serious game planning.

 

I will definitely give you that in that particular game. Also, if Kelly had not been so stubborn and just handed off to Thurman, as they were daring him to do, the Bills win that game. One simple, sweeping view of the world does not cover everything.

 

It’s not one thing, it’s a LOT of things, with some being more important than others. 

[T&C]

21 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I will definitely give you that in that particular game. Also, if Kelly had not been so stubborn and just handed off to Thurman, as they were daring him to do, the Bills win that game. One simple, sweeping view of the world does not cover everything.

 

It’s not one thing, it’s a LOT of things, with some being more important than others. 

Long story short.. not many non Bills know where a huge chunk of the team was less than 48 hours before that game. I do. Me and a chick named Kim got word that the Bills would be at a bar on West shore in Tampa... the Yukatan Liquor Stand. We went and sure as hell they were there... partying hardy. Bruce, Kelly, Reed, Talley, Thurman... on and on. We left at 1:30 in the morning and some were still in there, some were leaving. Wound up going out a minute or so after Reed and he was in some altercation with someone outside that didn't amount too much.

 

So, less than 48 hours before SB25 these guys were getting hammered at a bar... and this is why I say Marv was too lenient, and should have set a curfew... he didn't and they weren't on top of their game. Of all the times to stop partying that would have been the time but they didn't. So, it was fun times back then but there is a time to be a professional and they let us all down. I'll always be miffed at that year's team.

Edited Monday at 08:20 PM by T&C

[boyst]

42 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Seeing the eyeball emojis and wink faces from random Bills content creators on X.  
 

No idea if it’s just speculation or someone, somewhere knowing something. 

They're flirting?

[I'm Spartacus]

3 hours ago, T&C said:

Long story short.. not many non Bills know where a huge chunk of the team was less than 48 hours before that game. I do. Me and a chick named Kim got word that the Bills would be at a bar on West shore in Tampa... the Yukatan Liquor Stand. We went and sure as hell they were there... partying hardy. Bruce, Kelly, Reed, Talley, Thurman... on and on. We left at 1:30 in the morning and some were still in there, some were leaving. Wound up going out a minute or so after Reed and he was in some altercation with someone outside that didn't amount too much.

 

So, less than 48 hours before SB25 these guys were getting hammered at a bar... and this is why I say Marv was too lenient, and should have set a curfew... he didn't and they weren't on top of their game. Of all the times to stop partying that would have been the time but they didn't. So, it was fun times back then but there is a time to be a professional and they let us all down. I'll always be miffed at that year's team.

I don't doubt your story. What a shame they didn't show more discipline. Yes, Marv should have run a tighter ship, but the players let him down (and us fans).

[HOUSE]

If I was Peppers, I find a new agent.

This guy sucks...

[newcam2012]

A bit perplexed on how we are talking about picking up a safety and the season hasn't even started. Doesn't exactly scream confidence going into the regular season. McD is excellent at coaching up this position but I'm not even sure he is confident in the group he has. The secondary looks to be vulnerable going into season 2025. I'm thinking this will be the major obstacle to getting to the super bowl. 

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

A bit perplexed on how we are talking about picking up a safety and the season hasn't even started. Doesn't exactly scream confidence going into the regular season. McD is excellent at coaching up this position but I'm not even sure he is confident in the group he has. The secondary looks to be vulnerable going into season 2025. I'm thinking this will be the major obstacle to getting to the super bowl. 

We are.  
 

We don’t know if the FO is. 
 

They should, as Rapp/Peppers would be a pretty good duo and then we can bring Bishop along slowly for when he inevitably will have to play for one of them. 
 

But we don’t know that the staff has interest, and if we do, we don’t know if Peppers would come here without us being able to give him a starting guarantee.  

[Cubanmist 1]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

We are.  
 

We don’t know if the FO is. 
 

They should, as Rapp/Peppers would be a pretty good duo and then we can bring Bishop along slowly for when he inevitably will have to play for one of them. 
 

But we don’t know that the staff has interest, and if we do, we don’t know if Peppers would come here without us being able to give him a starting guarantee.  

And what do you do with Poyer?

[SCBills]

13 minutes ago, Cubanmist 1 said:

And what do you do with Poyer?

Leave him on the PS

 

[NewEra]

48 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

A bit perplexed on how we are talking about picking up a safety and the season hasn't even started. Doesn't exactly scream confidence going into the regular season. McD is excellent at coaching up this position but I'm not even sure he is confident in the group he has. The secondary looks to be vulnerable going into season 2025. I'm thinking this will be the major obstacle to getting to the super bowl. 

Welcome back- DOOOOOOOMED!!

[stevestojan]

You literally can’t downgrade from our current secondary. Why not? 

[newcam2012]

46 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Welcome back- DOOOOOOOMED!!

Thanks.

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

We are.  
 

We don’t know if the FO is. 
 

They should, as Rapp/Peppers would be a pretty good duo and then we can bring Bishop along slowly for when he inevitably will have to play for one of them. 
 

But we don’t know that the staff has interest, and if we do, we don’t know if Peppers would come here without us being able to give him a starting guarantee.  

Very good point. I stand corrected. 

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Leave him on the PS

 

Not sure why they just didn't pick him up as a coach. I think his playing days are over. What an impact player for several years. He was damn good and one of my favorite players to watch. 

[newcam2012]

51 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Welcome back- DOOOOOOOMED!!

Feels great to be back to be honest. It's great to converse with everyone again. I'll do my best not to be a downer. The greatness of this forum are the differences of ideas and opinions. 

[ganesh]

12 hours ago, T&C said:

I'd throw coaching into the mix... and for say SB25 it would be both sides. Marv was too lenient while Parcells did some serious game planning.

and don't forget Belichek's defense that stopped the Bills Juggernaut

[BillsFanForever19]

7 hours ago, stevestojan said:

You literally can’t downgrade from our current secondary. Why not? 

 

Our Safety room is the exact same as it was last year. Plus Jordan Hancock. And Cole Bishop in his second season. 

 

Our Safeties weren't the liability they're made out to be around here last season. They weren't anywhere near the problem Rasul Douglas, our Run Defense, and the short to intermediate Pass Defense just beyond the line of scrimmage were.

 

Could you do better? Yes. Literally can't downgrade? That's not true at all. Especially when you look at Safety play around the league.

Edited Tuesday at 09:02 AM by BillsFanForever19