Simon Posted August 28 Posted August 28 23 minutes ago, AKC said: IIRC Parsons was questionable for that game due to some carriage issue, maybe a hip? Our strategy was completely correct but that game he looked to me to be struggling with his own issues and not just the way we went at him. I don't remember any questions or concerns during the lead up to the game, but there was absolutely something wrong with him that day. I just remember posting something in the game thread as early as 2-3 minutes into the game (it was that obvious that quickly even to some schlub sitting on his couch 500 miles away) saying something was wrong with him and wondering if he had the flu or some such. Here it is as early as Page 3: 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted August 28 Posted August 28 13 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I do think the Packers underpaid. Clark is still a good player and probably will be for another 3 years. The two first rounders obviously makes sense. If I was Dallas I would have asked for a mid round pick and maybe a late round pick as well. I think Parsons for Clark, 2026 1st, 2027 1st , 2026 4th, and 2027 6th makes the optics look a lot better. With that said, I do think Parsons is one dimensional to receive that kind of money and don’t really blame Dallas for moving him at that salary. They just didn’t get enough . He isn’t a good run defender and the Packers actually got weaker in that regard with this trade in my opinion. He is obviously a menace as a pass rusher but I’m not sure he helps them win a big game against a team like the Eagles Dallas couldve gotten more if they dealt him in the beginning of the offseason, before Garret and Watt re-signed. But that contract lowered whatever they could get in return. Jerry messed it up as usual. 1 Quote
stevestojan Posted August 28 Posted August 28 (edited) Oh I’m headed immediately to the nearest cowboys message board. Edit: and in 35 seconds found enough to sum up their feelings: “May the Jones family suffer for this.” Edited August 28 by stevestojan 2 Quote
GoBills808 Posted August 28 Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah and Parsons was part of the reason it was putrid. yup they were one of the worst defenses in the league last yr 31st in points against 28th in yards 27th in defensiveEPA great player (little overrated imo) but Green Bay is more than a Micah Parsons away and the Cowboys are going to be better for this trade before long 1 Quote
Simon Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Just now, GoBills808 said: the Cowboys are going to be better for this trade before long Not sure about that. Jerry Jones could ***** up a free lunch. 1 4 Quote
Logic Posted August 28 Posted August 28 25 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: The Cowboys defense sucked with Micah Parsons. No way you pay that guy $47 million per. They get 2 first rounders and a dam good DT. And Parsons gets to freeze his ass off in the frozen tundra. Good for Jerry.. "The defense sucks with this guy, so they might as well suck without him" is a bad argument. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted August 28 Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Simon said: Not sure about that. Jerry Jones could ***** up a free lunch. i don't get the hate for dallas i mean im sure this wasn't an easy decision Quote
AKC Posted August 28 Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Simon said: I don't remember any questions or concerns during the lead up to the game, but there was absolutely something wrong with him that day. I just remember posting something in the game thread as early as 2-3 minutes into the game (it was that obvious that quickly even to some schlub sitting on his couch 500 miles away) saying something was wrong with him and wondering if he had the flu or some such. Keep taking that Ginka! From the game prior to ours: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/cowboys/2023/12/10/micah-parsons-illness-week-14-philadelphia-eagles/79624100007/ 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 28 Posted August 28 2 hours ago, Pete said: What did Dallas receive? Herschel Walker. 1 hour ago, MWK said: If Beane was man enough to do this, McDermott would have limited Parsons’ snaps so he could “learn the defense.” God I wish you were the Bills GM... Big Baller Beane's a fraud! 49 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Lol.. isn't it ironic to see this thread just above the Jordan Poyer thread. One team getting a generational pass rusher and another gifting $400K to a washed up safety. Those are interesting dots you connect. 1 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted August 28 Posted August 28 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: i don't get the hate for dallas i mean im sure this wasn't an easy decision Because he waited until now to make the trade, when he could have gotten SO much more in March. Also, he got into a pissing match with an agent and decided that it was worth more to him to win the PR battle than to back down and sign his team's best player. He cares more about his reputation in the press than he does winning football games and he made his team worse one week before the season. 1 Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted August 28 Posted August 28 35 minutes ago, QCity said: Jerry Jones and his clown show front office reaching new lows 😂 I dont know. They are far from being a championship team. This was probably best long term. 1 Quote
stevewin Posted August 28 Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Logic said: I mean not to defend Jones, but the whole "Why didn't you do it in March!!!????!?" thing is bc they weren't looking to trade him then and thought they could eventually sign him Quote
HappyDays Posted August 28 Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Beane refuses to go all in, instead hoarding late round draft picks so he can waste them next year If it was just the draft picks it's a no brainer. But it's that plus $47M AAV on a cap table that is already heavily lopsided in favor of the defense. We make this move and we completely lose the ability to add legit talent to the offense over the next couple seasons. If anything we would have had to make this trade back in like March before we had extended Rousseau, Bernard, and Benford, and paid Bosa/Hoect/Ogunjobi. Then you could have justified it while trading Rousseau and not making some of those those other moves. But we didn't know in March that this trade was possible. With the team as currently constructed it would have been insane to add yet another big investment to the defense. 1 2 Quote
GoBills808 Posted August 28 Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Because he waited until now to make the trade, when he could have gotten SO much more in March. Also, he got into a pissing match with an agent and decided that it was worth more to him to win the PR battle than to back down and sign his team's best player. He cares more about his reputation in the press than he does winning football games and he made his team worse one week before the season. i mean i guess? since 2010 they're top10 in win%, ahead of us even Quote
FLFan Posted August 28 Posted August 28 5 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Herschel Walker. God I wish you were the Bills GM... Big Baller Beane's a fraud! Those are interesting dots you connect. It’s gonna be a long year. 1 Quote
stuvian Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Bold move by GB reminiscent of the acquisition of Reggie White. I really didn't see Green Bay as one player away. If anything they regressed last year. That division race is the best in the league. Would like to have heard what other teams were in the hunt. A little surprised Jerry didn't move him to the AFC Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Just now, stevewin said: I mean not to defend Jones, but the whole "Why didn't you do it in March!!!????!?" thing is bc they weren't looking to trade him then and thought they could eventually sign him I think everyone gets that. But the point is, once you dont trade him in March, you need to get him signed immediately. It should have been a very easy deal to do, instead Jones had to try to flex and posture and delay because... reasons. He couldve had him signed before Garrett, he couldve had him signed before Watt. This is all on Jerry and a huge misplay at every step. Quote
Simon Posted August 28 Posted August 28 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: i don't get the hate for dallas i mean im sure this wasn't an easy decision I don't have any strong feeling about them either way; I just think Jones is an idiot. 10 minutes ago, AKC said: Keep taking that Ginka! From the game prior to ours: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/cowboys/2023/12/10/micah-parsons-illness-week-14-philadelphia-eagles/79624100007/ I'm as sharp as a bag of wet mice. Quote
MJS Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Gosh. $47 million per year is so much money... Plus two first round picks. Wow. I'm glad the Bills didn't do it. Quote
Low Positive Posted August 28 Posted August 28 Just now, stuvian said: Bold move by GB reminiscent of the acquisition of Reggie White. I really didn't see Green Bay as one player away. If anything they regressed last year. That division race is the best in the league. Would like to have heard what other teams were in the hunt. A little surprised Jerry didn't move him to the AFC No team would make that trade without an extension in hand, so if I had to guess, the trade market was limited to teams that could and would make him the highest-paid non-QB. That list included a bunch of scrub teams like NE with GB being the only contending team. Parsons did hold some cards and probably made the choice. 1 1 Quote
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