Bills hosting Gabe Davis for visit

[Logic]

4 minutes ago, Billl said:

If a team wanted Moore, they could have signed him in the offseason.  He’s got 1 catch for 5 yards on 4 targets so far in the pre-season and is likely to get cut.  Trades have to make sense for both sides, and it’s hard to envision a scenario in which a team is willing to give up draft capital for him.

Bills fans seem to have a vision of Moore that doesn't match the reality of his time here so far.

All indications are that purely in terms of his camp and preseason contributions, he's been no better than a KJ Hamler or Jalen Virgil type. Very much a roster bubble guy. But because of his name recognition and the tantalizing "he could really BE something if he just gets a good QB!" factor, many act like he's a near roster lock and a playmaker that other teams would want to trade for. I don't see it.

I think Moore is more likely to be cut than rostered at this point, and I don't think he'd fetch a penny of trade return. The most I think they could hope for would be a future late round pick swap (something like Moore and a 7th for a 6th in 2027), and even then I'd be surprised.

All that said, I still think Gabe Davis would improve this WR room.

[SoonerBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Bills fans seem to have a vision of Moore that doesn't match the reality of his time here so far.

All indications are that purely in terms of his camp and preseason contributions, he's been no better than a KJ Hamler or Jalen Virgil type. Very much a roster bubble guy. But because of his name recognition and the tantalizing "he could really BE something if he just gets a good QB!" factor, many act like he's a near roster lock and a playmaker that other teams would want to trade for. I don't see it.

I think Moore is more likely to be cut than rostered at this point, and I don't think he'd fetch a penny of trade return. The most I think they could hope for would be a future late round pick swap (something like Moore and a 7th for a 6th in 2027), and even then I'd be surprised.

All that said, I still think Gabe Davis would improve this WR room.

I was hopeful of both he and Samuel, but it seems both need to be cut. This is two WR signings that don't appear to work out.  I pray Palmer does or we only have 2 WR worth a damn on the roster

 

[CircleTheWagons99]

But can he play Safety? 

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, LEBills said:

not sure I see it but would probably exclusively be Elijah Moore. Trading him saves you 1.75 mil.

 

Coleman, Palmer and Shakir won’t be traded. Shavers and the other PS guys all cost the same traded or cut. Maybe they get an asset for Shavers in a trade, but it really won’t help the cap.

 

Curtis Samuel would be the holy grail with 7.34 mil in savings if traded. I would be stunned if other teams wanted to trade for the guy with his injuries. 

They wouldn’t; rolling over 7.34 into next year is worth more than a 5th rounder and a no production player

Edited Wednesday at 03:45 PM by uticaclub

[Logic]

9 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I was hopeful of both he and Samuel, but it seems both need to be cut. This is two WR signings that don't appear to work out.  I pray Palmer does or we only have 2 WR worth a damn on the roster

 

I think Palmer will prove to be a good signing, health permitting.

Coleman, Palmer, Shakir are the locked in top three. I think that, for whatever reason (maybe contract?), they still like Samuel, so he's probably WR4. That leaves two spots at most. 

Davis/Shavers or Shenault/Shavers have to be the betting favorites to claim those final two spots at this point.

[Andrew Son]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I think Palmer will prove to be a good signing, health permitting.

Coleman, Palmer, Shakir are the locked in top three. I think that, for whatever reason (maybe contract?), they still like Samuel, so he's probably WR4. That leaves two spots at most. 

Davis/Shavers or Shenault/Shavers have to be the betting favorites to claim those final two spots at this point.

From what I'm hearing Moore is connecting quite a bit with Josh in practice, and is creating seperation.

[boyst]

16 minutes ago, Logic said:

I think Palmer will prove to be a good signing, health permitting.

Coleman, Palmer, Shakir are the locked in top three. I think that, for whatever reason (maybe contract?), they still like Samuel, so he's probably WR4. That leaves two spots at most. 

Davis/Shavers or Shenault/Shavers have to be the betting favorites to claim those final two spots at this point.

the first few years, the first McDermott era had many core special teamers at skillset positions. every year we lose like 1 of those spots. i am curious how many core ST'ers we keep this year.

Do we keep a Hollins core ST WR? Shenault can return but hasn't been a bright spot. Davis won't play ST. Shavers may make it on this opportunity alone.

[gonzo1105]

If Davis is being brought in for a visit it’s one of two things. They are doing a med check on his shoulder for the future or they are dissatisfied with their # 4 WR spot . Probably a bit of both. 
 

Now this doesn’t mean to me that Samuel is going to be cut as I think his contract dictates him being kept for another year but even McDermott said they’re worried about the drop off. Davis would be the # 4 guy, Samuel would be # 5 and they would then keep a 6th WR for STs whether that would be Shavers or Shenault. 
 

Maybe they bite the bullet though as they said enough is enough with Spector already and maybe they’re close to that with Samuel and they sign Davis then keep both Shenault/Shavers for STs

[34-78-83]

46 minutes ago, Logic said:

Bills fans seem to have a vision of Moore that doesn't match the reality of his time here so far.

All indications are that purely in terms of his camp and preseason contributions, he's been no better than a KJ Hamler or Jalen Virgil type. Very much a roster bubble guy. But because of his name recognition and the tantalizing "he could really BE something if he just gets a good QB!" factor, many act like he's a near roster lock and a playmaker that other teams would want to trade for. I don't see it.

I think Moore is more likely to be cut than rostered at this point, and I don't think he'd fetch a penny of trade return. The most I think they could hope for would be a future late round pick swap (something like Moore and a 7th for a 6th in 2027), and even then I'd be surprised.

All that said, I still think Gabe Davis would improve this WR room.

Logic, that's not in line with the usage I saw in camp and has been described by those few that are able to attend practices at the stadium and in Chicago. Otherwise, I would tend to agree with the entire rest of your points about him and his inconsistency. But he's been used (when healthy) as the 1st guy in the slot once Shakir went down, and also some occasional use on the outside. Very different than the Hamler and Virgil usage.

[Mat68]

Matt Bove made a good point last night with Sal following hard knocks.  Shavers is the same age as Davis.  Shavers has played exactly 1 snap on Punt Coverage this pre season.  His special teams ability is far more projection than actual proof of concept. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 8/19/2025 at 8:56 AM, Process said:

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What Allen wants, Allen gets. Since Gabe Davis came here for a visit, I am 99.99% sure they are going to sign him unless Pittsburgh offers something ridiculous. 

[The BLUES Brothers]

It may be in this thread but swear Gabe was at Josh's wedding, so they are still close.

 

Since Gabe gets $11 Million guaranteed from JAX, we only have to pay the vet minimum, and that is the only portion reduced from JAX payment, and will not hurt Buffalo's salary cap figure.

[LEBills]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

If a team wanted Moore, they could have signed him in the offseason.  He’s got 1 catch for 5 yards on 4 targets so far in the pre-season and is likely to get cut.  Trades have to make sense for both sides, and it’s hard to envision a scenario in which a team is willing to give up draft capital for him.

Which is why I started off with “not sure I see it” silly Chiefs fan. But if anyone saves the Bills some money and may be seen by some teams as a cheap replacement for an injured WR in a trade - as the Buscaglia article was referencing - it would be Moore vs any other WR on the Bills imo.

[BarleyNY]

14 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

What Allen wants, Allen gets. Since Gabe Davis came here for a visit, I am 99.99% sure they are going to sign him unless Pittsburgh offers something ridiculous. 

They could just be checking him out physically in case they need to add a WR during the season. Ditto Pittsburgh. 

[Logic]

26 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

Logic, that's not in line with the usage I saw in camp and has been described by those few that are able to attend practices at the stadium and in Chicago. Otherwise, I would tend to agree with the entire rest of your points about him and his inconsistency. But he's been used (when healthy) as the 1st guy in the slot once Shakir went down, and also some occasional use on the outside. Very different than the Hamler and Virgil usage.

Thanks.

I'll admit I haven't been to a camp, and am going only off of what I've read from beat reporters and seen in the preseason games.

I do agree that he seems to be the primary slot backup to Shakir.  

Still, for as much excitement as some Bills fans had around his signing (and I was one of them), it has felt like he's had a very quiet camp and preseason. Usage wise, he may be getting consistent work. Production wise, I can't remember the last time I heard about him connecting for a big or even notable play with Josh.

[zow2]

12 minutes ago, The BLUES Brothers said:

It may be in this thread but swear Gabe was at Josh's wedding, so they are still close.

 

Since Gabe gets $11 Million guaranteed from JAX, we only have to pay the vet minimum, and that is the only portion reduced from JAX payment, and will not hurt Buffalo's salary cap figure.

 

The way Josh was quoted in the Buffalo News today,  glowingly talking about Gabe and their time together.,, it's clear Josh loves the guy.    

[boyst]

There is also the Bills know the guy, know what he has, don't know the injury but also want to take a look in case of emergency. 

 

edit: but the point is to give him a bit of a hat tip and do him a solid to drum up interest.

Edited Wednesday at 05:10 PM by boyst

[Dillenger4]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

Thanks.

I'll admit I haven't been to a camp, and am going only off of what I've read from beat reporters and seen in the preseason games.

I do agree that he seems to be the primary slot backup to Shakir.  

Still, for as much excitement as some Bills fans had around his signing (and I was one of them), it has felt like he's had a very quiet camp and preseason. Usage wise, he may be getting consistent work. Production wise, I can't remember the last time I heard about him connecting for a big or even notable play with Josh.

The reports out of camp have been good for Moore. Not sure how you missed them. He is consistently getting open. He had a "great" practice a few weeks ago.

The one camp day i attended in Pittsford, Moore and Palmer and Kincaid were the main targets. Looked VERY fast with nice hands for all 3. Mind you, they were in shorts. But the plays were designed to get the ball to them repectively.

 

Anyway, Moore is a solid lock.

 

It's Samuel that is the question.

[Logic]

6 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

The reports out of camp have been good for Moore. Not sure how you missed them. He is consistently getting open. He had a "great" practice a few weeks ago.

The one camp day i attended in Pittsford, Moore and Palmer and Kincaid were the main targets. Looked VERY fast with nice hands for all 3. Mind you, they were in shorts. But the plays were designed to get the ball to them repectively.

 

Anyway, Moore is a solid lock.

 

It's Samuel that is the question.

Would you mind pointing me to some of the good reports out of camp for Moore? Because I genuinely don't remember readying many/any.

I also believe he has more drops than catches through two preseason games.

With McDermott talking about uncertainty after the top three WRs and then bringing in Gabe Davis for a visit, I think calling Moore a "solid lock" for the roster seems too generous. I don't get that impression.

I may be wrong, and he may make it, but... while I've read consistently glowing camp reports about Keon Coleman, Tyrell Shavers, and even some Palmer praise at times....Elijah Moore? I must've missed those.

 

 

 

[Mikie2times]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

A poor man’s Mack? Hollins has gone over 400 yards once in his career. Has also never had more than 5 rec TDs which was last year. Gabe’s numbers dwarf his and it’s not even close. 
 

edit: also wanted add that Gabe’s 8/201/4TD against KC was the greatest and most clutch showing I’ve ever seen in the playoffs. But it’s taken away from him because the Bills lost. 

lol.....targets? longevity? Allen generated INT's. Ya, no thanks.