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4 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

I think the absolute best outcome for the NFL in the coming years is we get back to 1880's-1930's football.  It's either that or flag.  
 

I can't wait!!

Wow, because of smelling salts?

Posted
15 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

but you can test positive for weed and still pratice-play and all that ???

 

Weed isn't a performance enhancer. I didn't think smelling salts were.

Posted
15 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

If a player requires the use of smelling salts he has already met the requirement of a concussion and shouldn't be playing. I think that's the reason.

Yes, that's it.  There was a controversy about this last season (clearly the reason for the ban) when cameras caught someone being given smelling salts after being hit and showing some concussion signs.  Many in the media were claiming that if he was taking smelling salts, he must be concussed, but then others pointed out that the ground is littered with the packets after a game...that some players take them before every drive.  NFL didn't want the bad look of covering up for concussions so banned them.

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Posted
16 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

If a player requires the use of smelling salts he has already met the requirement of a concussion and shouldn't be playing. I think that's the reason.

Agreed here.. if you need smelling salts to get your head straight then maybe thats a bad idea... even if not in concussion concern wouldnt it be best to wait until your consciousness came back normally...  I also heard that they have a negative effect on the spleen.... so there is that LOL .... 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Yes, they were banned from boxing for just that reason.

Part of how they're believed to work is that breathing in the irritant triggers an increase in depth of breathing and breathing rate, leading to increased oxygenation and a "rush" of alertness.

 

In theory, it's possible to learn to consciously do deep but rapid breathing, if that's indeed the pathway.  There may be more to it, like a release of adrenaline in response to the noxious stimulus

So, can they still snort Red Bull on the sidelines?

Posted
11 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Yes, they were banned from boxing for just that reason.

Part of how they're believed to work is that breathing in the irritant triggers an increase in depth of breathing and breathing rate, leading to increased oxygenation and a "rush" of alertness.

 

In theory, it's possible to learn to consciously do deep but rapid breathing, if that's indeed the pathway.  There may be more to it, like a release of adrenaline in response to the noxious stimulus

 

Official 1 to official 2: "Look at that guy over there; he's really alert, and breathing great! He must be on the Salts!"

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First, I’m just a middle aged guy who wants to remain healthy.  Having said that I was a national competitor in powerlifting for 17 years.  I took ammonia before each lift of the 9 for a full meet, and the only thing ammonia tablets do is make you take in so much oxygen for a few seconds for a burst of energy.  Natural as it’s only you’re body responding to a noxious stimuli.

 

It’s not a PED, or anything like it.  It wears off quickly which is why I would take for years for each lift.  This is stupid. Talk about the nanny state.  This is coming from a guy who was lie detected, ruin, and for the US championships they started hair testing to ensure you were clean.  Supplement a like Creatine, or ammonia does nothing but voluntarily taxing youre kidneys during g a round of creative which is why you restrain water which goes againts making weight.

 

So bottom line is why not let players use ammonia if they need it.  It only gives a very short burst on increased oxygen naturally for a minute tops.

 

Guys I’m not touting my history 27-44 years ago.  Just simply unlike many I’ve taken amonia probably 1000 times with no adverse effect, other than waking your ars up for a minute.  You’re not blood doping as that is universally illegal in every sport.  Ask Lance Armstrong.

I’m rereading some of these posts and looked thoroughly into amonia.  There is no deleterious effect on the spleen and is not a performing enhanced drug that can increase strength or speed.  Heck, Janitors get a good dose of this when using industrial cleaners.  This is silly.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

I’m not touting my history 27-44 years ago.  


I remember when I could get a stiffy too. Good times. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, WotAGuy said:


I remember when I could get a stiffy too. Good times. 

While I appreciate your concern for my sexual health with my wife Wot, I’m good there.  The pipes still work and never took a road or GH in my life.  I never would.  That was against our religion back in those days.  
 

That was a funny though.  Nice comment my friend.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Fleezoid said:

Ummm, how do you test for smelling salt abuse?

 

 

 

 

 

Fleez, I’ve mentioned to a few my beautiful bride of 1.5 years is originally about a decade ago grew up in China.  The cool thing is as a child they didn’t have a tv so she never saw all of these awesome funny and serious movies so we have on deck Airpllane.  She loved the Naked Gun movies so much she made me take her to the new Liam Neeson one.  It was actually pretty stupid funny.

 

Tonight after dinner, I’m playing Stripes for her.  “That’s the fact Jack”.  I love I get relive these classics.

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Posted
53 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

First, I’m just a middle aged guy who wants to remain healthy.  Having said that I was a national competitor in powerlifting for 17 years.  I took ammonia before each lift of the 9 for a full meet, and the only thing ammonia tablets do is make you take in so much oxygen for a few seconds for a burst of energy.  Natural as it’s only you’re body responding to a noxious stimuli.

 

It’s not a PED, or anything like it.  It wears off quickly which is why I would take for years for each lift.  This is stupid. Talk about the nanny state.  This is coming from a guy who was lie detected, ruin, and for the US championships they started hair testing to ensure you were clean.  Supplement a like Creatine, or ammonia does nothing but voluntarily taxing youre kidneys during g a round of creative which is why you restrain water which goes againts making weight.

 

So bottom line is why not let players use ammonia if they need it.  It only gives a very short burst on increased oxygen naturally for a minute tops.

 

Guys I’m not touting my history 27-44 years ago.  Just simply unlike many I’ve taken amonia probably 1000 times with no adverse effect, other than waking your ars up for a minute.  You’re not blood doping as that is universally illegal in every sport.  Ask Lance Armstrong.

I’m rereading some of these posts and looked thoroughly into amonia.  There is no deleterious effect on the spleen and is not a performing enhanced drug that can increase strength or speed.  Heck, Janitors get a good dose of this when using industrial cleaners.  This is silly.

If it basically does nothing, then the players don't need it. Personally, I think it is a bad look having players on the sideline sniffing salts all game long and littering the ground with those packages. Just go play football.

 

They literally have oxygen masks on the sidelines for players. They don't need salts for the oxygen boost.

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Cripes, we get our “bell rung” in H.S. football. Snap, sniff, head rush, back in good as new. No big deal. I remember a couple times….well, I don’t exactly remember, but that’s not the point. 

 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

First, I’m just a middle aged guy who wants to remain healthy.  Having said that I was a national competitor in powerlifting for 17 years.  I took ammonia before each lift of the 9 for a full meet, and the only thing ammonia tablets do is make you take in so much oxygen for a few seconds for a burst of energy.  Natural as it’s only you’re body responding to a noxious stimuli.

 

It’s not a PED, or anything like it.  It wears off quickly which is why I would take for years for each lift.  This is stupid. Talk about the nanny state.  This is coming from a guy who was lie detected, ruin, and for the US championships they started hair testing to ensure you were clean.  Supplement a like Creatine, or ammonia does nothing but voluntarily taxing youre kidneys during g a round of creative which is why you restrain water which goes againts making weight.

 

So bottom line is why not let players use ammonia if they need it.  It only gives a very short burst on increased oxygen naturally for a minute tops.

 

Guys I’m not touting my history 27-44 years ago.  Just simply unlike many I’ve taken amonia probably 1000 times with no adverse effect, other than waking your ars up for a minute.  You’re not blood doping as that is universally illegal in every sport.  Ask Lance Armstrong.

I’m rereading some of these posts and looked thoroughly into amonia.  There is no deleterious effect on the spleen and is not a performing enhanced drug that can increase strength or speed.  Heck, Janitors get a good dose of this when using industrial cleaners.  This is silly.

When I was reading your post, competing for 17 years, history 27-44 years ago, I started to wonder if you might be being generous in your definition of middle age... then I stumbled across the spleen comment (this is TBD... everything affects the spleen. It's the most important organ in a football players body. Many players have had season ending spleen injuries, with several of them not living to tell the tale) and I have to ask, respectfully, are you sure you're not knocking the the door of old-mandom? :lol:

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