Bills have a playoff problem..It’s not Josh Allen (Warren Sharp)

[BillytheKid]

I saw this article from Warren Sharp he wrote in March it looks like. I couldn’t find it on here and used the search button didn’t see it. So I don’t think it has been posted. 
 

Great article showing how good Allen has been in the playoffs. I linked it below. 
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In the last five seasons, only two teams have exceeded 55 regular season wins: the Chiefs (66) and the Bills (61).

Regular season wins are fine…if they lead to better seeding and playoff success.

Despite the Chiefs and Bills both leading the NFL in total wins over the last five seasons and each making the playoffs all five seasons, the Bills lag behind in playoff success.

In the playoffs, the Chiefs have:

4 Conference Championships

2 Super Bowls

 

Meanwhile, the Bills have:

0 Conference Championships

0 Super Bowls

 

 

It is not so simple to suggest the Bills are great in the regular season and bad in the playoffs.

 

In fact, in the playoffs over the last five years, the Bills have 12 games played (second most in the NFL) and 7 wins (second most in the NFL).

Beyond that, they actually have a winning record in the NFL playoffs: 12 games, 7 wins, 5 losses.

 

There are only 6 other teams with a winning record in the playoffs the last five years, and ALL of them have at least one Conference Championship victory and Super Bowl appearance to show for it.

Chiefs

Rams

Eagles

Buccaneers

Bengals

49ers

 

read the rest in the link below…..

 

 

 

Allen is not the playoff problem

[GoBills808]

yes we know

[WNYFAN1]

Sure, he's not the problem. But wouldn't you want the ball in his hands late in the game with a chance to win? Had that the last two years...

[MJS]

The Bills lag behind in playoff success only to the Chiefs. They have had more playoff wins and consistent appearances than any other team.

[corta765]

3 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said:

Sure, he's not the problem. But wouldn't you want the ball in his hands late in the game with a chance to win? Had that the last two years...

 

I get what your saying an agree to some extent he could have been better especially this last year. But I forgot if it was Jeremy on WGR or some other stat person, but basically they broke down the rate which QBs in the post season win when they get the ball last and it was Brady/Mahomes .... then everyone else. Josh in 2021 13 seconds did his part tenfold and they lost no fault to him. He was A+. I thought in 2023 he was pretty good and a little unlucky but still a B+ level effort. Last year was honestly his worst post season game against the Chiefs and they still put up 29 pts. Anyhoo the point of the article is Josh is still on the higher side of performance but when you have Brady/Mahomes who just close at such an insanely high rate, everyone else including Peyton Manning feels way behind when realistically their pretty good in their own right.

[Dan]

The Bills have the unfortunate luck of being great at the same time KC is great… and call it luck, skill, or soft schedules… but the Chiefs seem to be gifted the #1 seed every year, which carries a HUGE advantage to making the SuperBowl.  Think about it…. Last year the Bills had 3 losses after the Rams game, and we still needed the Chiefs to collapse to have a legitimate shot at the #1 seed.   3 losses!  Thats it and we were practically playing for the 2 seed. 
 

So how do they turn that fortune around?   I’m not sure they can do much better in the regular season than they have.   Maybe?  But it’s tough to be as good as they have been, for as long as they have been… and expect even more.

 

For me, I think it comes down to the playoffs.  If I were Beane and Terry, I would have an entire division of scouts and data analysts to look at every KC game since 2018. And target the changes they made in the post season from regular season.  I would do that for teams like Baltimore, Cinci and the Texans too.   But they have to be better prepared for whatever wrinkles these teams (especially KC) throw at them in the post season.   It’s more than just being healthy, we’re being out schemed.   I keep waiting for McD to figure it out… but at this point.  They need to do something more than they have been to prepare for these post season games.   It’s not Allen, it’s not the players… it’s the positions they’re putting them in when it matters the most. 

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

I get what your saying an agree to some extent he could have been better especially this last year. But I forgot if it was Jeremy on WGR or some other stat person, but basically they broke down the rate which QBs in the post season win when they get the ball last and it was Brady/Mahomes .... then everyone else. Josh in 2021 13 seconds did his part tenfold and they lost no fault to him. He was A+. I thought in 2023 he was pretty good and a little unlucky but still a B+ level effort. Last year was honestly his worst post season game against the Chiefs and they still put up 29 pts. Anyhoo the point of the article is Josh is still on the higher side of performance but when you have Brady/Mahomes who just close at such an insanely high rate, everyone else including Peyton Manning feels way behind when realistically their pretty good in their own right.

Brady and mahomes are both less efficient and less productive than Allen in the playoffs

[Gregg]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

Brady and mahomes are both less efficient and less productive than Allen in the playoffs

 

Both Belichick and Reid are much better HC's the McDermott. Also, the Pats and Chiefs defenses play/played a lot better than the Bills defense in the playoffs. Both Brady and Mahomes never had to play in "God mode" like Allen does to give their teams a chance to win. 

[Comebackkid]

the issue is the bills defense folds in the playoffs against the chiefs and the chiefs defense rises up to the occasion. 

last  year our offensive and defensive strategy and play calling was a step down though.  (which you could kind of expect)

[BillytheKid]

24 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said:

Sure, he's not the problem. But wouldn't you want the ball in his hands late in the game with a chance to win? Had that the last two years...

Guess you didn’t read the whole article. 

32 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

yes we know

I know you know. So do I.

 

That wasn’t the point of the article if you read the whole thing. 

[thenorthremembers]

Its a team issue.   The defensive gives up too many points in big games.  And when the offense had the ball with plenty of time to win a football game last year they didnt do it.   

[scuba guy]

1 hour ago, BillytheKid said:

I saw this article from Warren Sharp he wrote in March it looks like. I couldn’t find it on here and used the search button didn’t see it. So I don’t think it has been posted. 
 

Great article showing how good Allen has been in the playoffs. I linked it below. 
——————————————————

 

In the last five seasons, only two teams have exceeded 55 regular season wins: the Chiefs (66) and the Bills (61).

Regular season wins are fine…if they lead to better seeding and playoff success.

Despite the Chiefs and Bills both leading the NFL in total wins over the last five seasons and each making the playoffs all five seasons, the Bills lag behind in playoff success.

In the playoffs, the Chiefs have:

4 Conference Championships

2 Super Bowls

 

Meanwhile, the Bills have:

0 Conference Championships

0 Super Bowls

 

 

It is not so simple to suggest the Bills are great in the regular season and bad in the playoffs.

 

In fact, in the playoffs over the last five years, the Bills have 12 games played (second most in the NFL) and 7 wins (second most in the NFL).

Beyond that, they actually have a winning record in the NFL playoffs: 12 games, 7 wins, 5 losses.

 

There are only 6 other teams with a winning record in the playoffs the last five years, and ALL of them have at least one Conference Championship victory and Super Bowl appearance to show for it.

Chiefs

Rams

Eagles

Buccaneers

Bengals

49ers

 

read the rest in the link below…..

 

 

 

Allen is not the playoff problem

I will be Billy the kid here.

 

Use the search function this topic was brought up back in March. Same titles 

[Mikie2times]

 

45 minutes ago, MJS said:

The Bills lag behind in playoff success only to the Chiefs. They have had more playoff wins and consistent appearances than any other team.

Thank god we haven't gotten the bye 

[nedboy7]

I suggest you change your perspective.  If you value regular season wins more than playoff wins like I do then you will realize we have already arrived and you can enjoy these amazing years. 

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, BillytheKid said:

Guess you didn’t read the whole article. 

I know you know. So do I.

 

That wasn’t the point of the article if you read the whole thing. 

i know you know. i actually read this a while ago 

 

all it does is confirm what ive been saying for like 3 years now. we have a fundamental possibly fatal postseason flaw. people will point to injuries but unless our playoff injury luck is outlandishly bad, like worst in NFL history bad, it cannot explain how we are getting consistent top tier postseason QB play and not having more success. and i don't believe that's been the case

 

it is imo statistically speaking borderline impossible to have the playoff numbers from the QB spot we do and not have multiple super bowl appearances. 

[Pecker]

The bills are just one all pro player off.  Chiefs have had hill Taylor’s bf and jones over the last few years.  We have no one like that.  
 

also McD cost us a win as well.  
 

but we are basically one missed draft pick, or the Von signing, from a few SBs

[appoo]

It is not so simple to suggest the Bills are great in the regular season and bad in the playoffs.

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Sometimes I really dislike our fanbase

[uticaclub]

10 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

I suggest you change your perspective.  If you value regular season wins more than playoff wins like I do then you will realize we have already arrived and you can enjoy these amazing years. 

You prefer regular season wins over playoff victories? Is a week 4 win against the Saints more significant than a conference championship?

[GerstAusGosheim]

Lol, Sean. We knew this after he blew 13 seconds. Andy would have 1-3 rings with the same Bills rosters.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, BillytheKid said:

Allen is not the playoff problem

 

Yeah - the playoff problem is the chiefs.  It's been the chiefs.  Its everyone else in the freaking AFC's problem too.  They have played in 5/6 super bowls and 7 straight AFC championship games.