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Injuries suck. I don’t expect to even see Max until the last quarter of the season and that’s probably optimistic! That would equate to missing on our first three picks in the 2025 draft. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

Injuries suck. I don’t expect to even see Max until the last quarter of the season and that’s probably optimistic! That would equate to missing on our first three picks in the 2025 draft. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

 

I’m not willing to go there 3 games into their first season. I don’t know how they will turn out, but I do know that now is too soon to decide. 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said:

 

McDermott literally just said there is a chance he doesn't come back this year. At this point, surgery can't be ruled out. That isn't wild speculation that is actually an intelligent question given we know that McDermott often under sells how significant injuries are.

Like most, I don't like that McDermott used the word IF. But, he is not one to undersell injuries. McDermott does not like to be put himself into a corner when it comes to injury time-lines, and therefore is actually very conservative. I think the IF part came from it being an uncommon injury. That being said, even the more severe type of LCL sprains take 8-12 weeks. A lot can change a month from now. Luckily we're still in Sept.

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Just now, Augie said:

 

I’m not willing to go there 3 games into a season. I don’t know how they will turn out, but I do know that now is too soon to decide. 

Understand, but realistically I think we all can see Landon will have minimal impact this year. Barring injury, he’ll be inactive more often than not. If Max’s injury keeps him out, that’s two of the three. While Sanders has gotten playing time, thus far return had been minimal. And yet again Beane traded up to get Sanders. 
 

In full transparency, I want to be 💯 wrong!

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He’ll play when he’s ready. Sometimes I think McD just says stuff like this to protect the player by tempering expectations. Especially, for a first round pick. If he comes out looking rough after an injury the pitchforks will be out for him which could hurt his confidence and development.

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2 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

Understand, but realistically I think we all can see Landon will have minimal impact this year. Barring injury, he’ll be inactive more often than not. If Max’s injury keeps him out, that’s two of the three. While Sanders has gotten playing time, thus far return had been minimal. And yet again Beane traded up to get Sanders. 
 

In full transparency, I want to be 💯 wrong!

I don't think there is a roster move Beane makes, ESCPECIALLY with regard to the defense, where McDermott is not involved. You can bet McDermott had a hand in moving up for Sanders. 

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3 minutes ago, H2o said:

I don't think there is a roster move Beane makes, ESCPECIALLY with regard to the defense, where McDermott is not involved. You can bet McDermott had a hand in moving up for Sanders. 

 

I agree with you. 

 

But imagine your Brandon Beane.  You have your dream job.  You're winning a lot of games.  People are interviewing you because your opinions are newsworthy.  You're making more money than you ever have before and materially taking better care of your family.


Given all that, how much would you allow a coach, or anyone else, to draft a guy you didn't believe in when your job is on the line?  Beane is going to consider McD's opinion just like he considers those of his scouts.  Beane knows that a team of people typically makes better decisions than any one individual.  But Beane's making the final call, and I doubt if he's making any trades or picks that he doesn't have faith in.   

 

Whoever else had input is, from my point of view, immaterial.  Beane has the ultimate accountability.  If the coaches and scouts are giving him bad draft/trade advice, he should ignore the coaches and replace the scouts.  

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2 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

Thats wild speculation on your part...what would indicate he needs surgery right now?

Yeah, agree with you here. First off there's no way he's doing these leg drills if he needs surgery. they would of just shut him down.

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1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

Injuries suck. I don’t expect to even see Max until the last quarter of the season and that’s probably optimistic! That would equate to missing on our first three picks in the 2025 draft. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

 

1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

Understand, but realistically I think we all can see Landon will have minimal impact this year. Barring injury, he’ll be inactive more often than not. If Max’s injury keeps him out, that’s two of the three. While Sanders has gotten playing time, thus far return had been minimal. And yet again Beane traded up to get Sanders. 
 

In full transparency, I want to be 💯 wrong!


it wouldn’t equate to missing on our first 3 picks in the 2025 draft, though. It would just mean they didn’t have a big impact as rookies. There would still be plenty of time for them to develop into important starters for the Bills.

 

I mean, sure in an ideal world they come in and play great right away but that’s not a super common scenario. Plenty of rookies need time to develop. 

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1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

Injuries suck. I don’t expect to even see Max until the last quarter of the season and that’s probably optimistic! That would equate to missing on our first three picks in the 2025 draft. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

So you already know that sanders and Jackson are misses?  
 

and missing our 1st round pick for 3/4 of a season equals a miss too?  
 

Strange

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

They want him ready for the back 9.  
 

Week 11-12.  Maybe by the Chiefs game.  


I thought the same.  He has the bye if ready to get ready to play, and he may get spot duty for the Panthers as a tune up.  Probably very limited in amt of plays.

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2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

I really hope he plays this year cause our d needs him to be really good. 

 

Even if he doesn’t become a huge contributor this year, it sure would be nice for him to get some experience at full speed with live bullets this season. The injury was a bummer, but that stuff happens. The more play he can get this year, the more it will help prepare him for next year. If he can be a big help this year, I’ll think of that as icing on the cake. 

4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 


it wouldn’t equate to missing on our first 3 picks in the 2025 draft, though. It would just mean they didn’t have a big impact as rookies. There would still be plenty of time for them to develop into important starters for the Bills.

 

I mean, sure in an ideal world they come in and play great right away but that’s not a super common scenario. Plenty of rookies need time to develop. 

 

Not to mention, if we were a drought era team starting roles would be much easier to come by. It’s not easy to make an immediate mark on a Super Bowl favorite team. 

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"Lower your expectations..." - Sean McDermott 

 

How?! My expectations for your defense & early draft picks is already at rock bottom!

 

We seem to use 1st & 2nd round picks on guys with the hope they become decent starters in the next few seasons, but almost never THIS season (and never with an expectations they become stars).

 

But the scouting department responsible for the later round picks - you're the unsung heroes saving these drafts!

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23 minutes ago, NewEra said:

So you already know that sanders and Jackson are misses?  
 

and missing our 1st round pick for 3/4 of a season equals a miss too?  
 

Strange

To be clear meaning misses on having any substantial impact in 2025. We went into this season needing to get younger on D and when you draft D with the vast majority of your picks, you’d like to have immediate contributions especially from your top picks. 

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3 hours ago, skibum said:

Yeah, he's still a ways out. Every drill is moving in a straight line, no cutting or shifting of body mass side to side allowed. I wonder when he's allowed to start that kind of stuff. I don't see him playing in any games anytime soon!

Good point.... or it could be this was all he's allowed to put on tape knowing cameras are there?  If theres truth to 'not allowed to stay on IR if fully healthy', and we certaily know the system gets abused to protect players from waivers.... im just saying.  Could be roster management and wanting to pick the right time (like near bye week) to introduce him to lineup, while also being able to roster the extra man.

 

Just a bit of devils advocate.

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9 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

To be clear meaning misses on having any substantial impact in 2025. We went into this season needing to get younger on D and when you draft D with the vast majority of your picks, you’d like to have immediate contributions especially from your top picks. 

I know what we’d like to draft. Good players that will help us win a Super Bowl. Determining whether a pick is a hit or a miss is rarely determined in year 1.   I don’t think we’ll know if any of these guys are misses this season.

 

 

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