Max Hairston injury

[RochesterLifer]

1 hour ago, HardyBoy said:

 

Haha, to be fair I never said that, nor did I say the sky was falling. All I'm saying is people cheering that it's "only" a hamstring...a hamstring injury might be something that needs to be accounted for the rest of one's career

 

I think it's the overall general idea where people might be cheering for something initially, but then in the long run it ends up being worse than the thing they were initially cheering against...like that as a general concept is kinda tickling my brain a bit...like from a Shakespearian/Greek tragedy/film noir perspective

I think people were (myself included) breathing a sigh of relief, rather than cheering.

 

"like from a Shakespearian/Greek tragedy/film noir perspective"? 😁 You may be (no sarcasm here) too smart for me to mess with. 

[3rdand12]

On 6/12/2025 at 8:54 PM, Don Otreply said:

That’s a big nuthin, Now what are we gonna worry about? 

Dang it !

[Sierra Foothills]

On 6/12/2025 at 9:54 AM, oldmanfan said:

I hope the training staff puts all the guys on stretching programs from now till camp and thereafter.

 

 

On 6/12/2025 at 3:41 PM, MJS said:

Have they scheduled the amputation yet?

 

I believe they want to try a splenectomy first to see if that works.

 

[Buffalo Junction]

On 6/13/2025 at 8:16 AM, Beck Water said:

 

OK...but were you slamming your body full force into other large athletic men for hours every week and also having them slam into you and land on you and likely try to wrench you around and aggravate it?  'Cuz I don't think that helps.  

 

And also, there are back injuries and back injuries and none of us know which this was.

Not with the same level athletes, but kind of. I’ve spent two multi-month stints in ICU from car accidents, and spent 15 years doing judo around that and a blue collar job. I also played football until the first car crash. I have pins, plates, and screws in several limbs/joints along with having two vertebrae fused. I recovered well for a long time. However, around 32 the ability to recover from injuries was just too much, and I switched everything up…. I’m a tai chi in the park guy now. The injuries add up over time like dividends, and we all have a point where our ability to recover from repetitive trauma declines. Rasul likely hit that point.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I’m a tai chi in the park guy now. 

 

I thought that was you.  I didn't want to disturb you. 😁😇

[Buffalo Junction]

15 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

 

I thought that was you.  I didn't want to disturb you. 😁😇

When I was young and dumb I went full Gowron…. Never go full Gowron. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

When I was young and dumb I went full Gowron…. Never go full Gowron. 

QuchwIj yIrIHQo'!
(Doctor my eyes!)

[Prospector]

Was his spleen involved?

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, Prospector said:

Was his spleen involved?

 

I head that while a splenectomy has not been performed, it hasn't been completely ruled out either.

 

[aristocrat]

Is he walking?

[Goin Breakdown]

Will he ever have children after this?

[BigDingus]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

When I was young and dumb I went full Gowron…. Never go full Gowron. 

 

Correct. You have to go full Martok. It's the more sensible choice.

[Beck Water]

18 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Not with the same level athletes, but kind of. I’ve spent two multi-month stints in ICU from car accidents, and spent 15 years doing judo around that and a blue collar job. I also played football until the first car crash. I have pins, plates, and screws in several limbs/joints along with having two vertebrae fused. I recovered well for a long time. However, around 32 the ability to recover from injuries was just too much, and I switched everything up…. I’m a tai chi in the park guy now. The injuries add up over time like dividends, and we all have a point where our ability to recover from repetitive trauma declines. Rasul likely hit that point.

 

Wow, it sounds as though you've gone through a lot...but the question is, with a back injury at almost 30, were you out there playing football 2 weeks from the injury?

[EasternOHBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Wow, it sounds as though you've gone through a lot...but the question is, with a back injury at almost 30, were you out there playing football 2 weeks from the injury?

 

Back injuries vary. A back injury which requires surgery is TOTALLY different than a back injury that doesn't. Many who has experienced a back injury, like myself, don't want to have surgery because in many cases it ends up being a worse outcome. I don't think this is a fair comparison since he said that he had surgery.

[Billl]

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Back injuries vary. A back injury which requires surgery is TOTALLY different than a back injury that doesn't. Many who has experienced a back injury, like myself, don't want to have surgery because in many cases it ends up being a worse outcome. I don't think this is a fair comparison since he said that he had surgery.

I’ve talked to a back surgeon in a social setting who said that he would never have back surgery.  He said there are just too many ways that it can go horribly wrong for no apparent reason.

[Buffalo Junction]

55 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Wow, it sounds as though you've gone through a lot...but the question is, with a back injury at almost 30, were you out there playing football 2 weeks from the injury?

No. I didn’t play football into my late 20’s.
 

Now, if you’d asked if I’d competed in a judo tournament two weeks out from a soft tissue injury to my back the answer would have been yes. 
 

To get back to my initial point…

 

All combat sports - of which football is one - damage the body over time. Everyone’s physiology is unique, but there comes a point when the traumas don’t heal as fast, and they start stacking up. For most people that happens around thirty; sometimes it’s 28, and sometimes it’s 34, but it happens to us all. 

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Back injuries vary. A back injury which requires surgery is TOTALLY different than a back injury that doesn't. Many who has experienced a back injury, like myself, don't want to have surgery because in many cases it ends up being a worse outcome. I don't think this is a fair comparison since he said that he had surgery.

It’s definitely not a straight comparison. In my case it was a necessity, and I had the best possible outcome…. Pain free for about a decade afterwards, no complications, and to this day that injury just throbs when the weather shifts. That’s the exception and not the rule though.

[Sierra Foothills]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

No. I didn’t play football into my late 20’s.
 

Now, if you’d asked if I’d competed in a judo tournament two weeks out from a soft tissue injury to my back the answer would have been yes. 
 

To get back to my initial point…

 

All combat sports - of which football is one - damage the body over time. Everyone’s physiology is unique, but there comes a point when the traumas don’t heal as fast, and they start stacking up. For most people that happens around thirty; sometimes it’s 28, and sometimes it’s 34, but it happens to us all. 

It’s definitely not a straight comparison. In my case it was a necessity, and I had the best possible outcome…. Pain free for about a decade afterwards, no complications, and to this day that injury just throbs when the weather shifts. That’s the exception and not the rule though.

 

Of greater interest to most of us, how is your spleen?

 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Back injuries vary. A back injury which requires surgery is TOTALLY different than a back injury that doesn't. Many who has experienced a back injury, like myself, don't want to have surgery because in many cases it ends up being a worse outcome. I don't think this is a fair comparison since he said that he had surgery.

 

I read it differently - that he had back injuries playing sports and recovered easily, but then had car accidents with serious injuries and surgery?

 

58 minutes ago, Billl said:

I’ve talked to a back surgeon in a social setting who said that he would never have back surgery.  He said there are just too many ways that it can go horribly wrong for no apparent reason.

 

Hmmmm.

Edited 6 hours ago by Beck Water

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

I’ve talked to a back surgeon in a social setting who said that he would never have back surgery.  He said there are just too many ways that it can go horribly wrong for no apparent reason.

 

Nobody WANTS to have back surgery, but sometimes it’s just necessary. I know 3 people who put it off as long as possible, and their eventual outcomes varied widely due to multiple factors. Two of them followed Doc’s orders and while it was an ordeal (and not a magic bullet), their lives became more manageable. My BIL, unfortunately, did not followed doctor’s orders and ended up having FIVE back surgeries. I bet if he could do it over he would have stopped skiing and jogging after his first trip under the knife. 

 

A college buddy was unable to walk a city block without surgery. That’s not the quality of life he was looking for. Sometimes you just do what you have to do. 

[Buffalo Junction]

4 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Of greater interest to most of us, how is your spleen?

 

Better than my liver on game days.