Frank Ragnow retiring (Belinda!)

[TBBills Fan]

Edited June 2 by TBBills Fan

[KingBoots8]

Dang, that’s a heck of a loss for the Lions.

[WotAGuy]

I would’ve waited until halftime of the first game, but that’s just me, and maybe one other person. 

[TBBills Fan]

1 minute ago, KingBoots8 said:

Dang, that’s a heck of a loss for the Lions.

Yeah I agree. Not to mention it's a bit late in the off-season. I was reading in the FB thread the lions have his replacement already and he was talking about retiring last year I guess

 

 

Just now, WotAGuy said:

I would’ve waited until halftime of the first game, but that’s just me, and maybe one other person. 

RIP

[billsfan89]

Dude isn't even 30, big loss for the Lions dude was an All-Pro center multiple times over and entering an age where you figured he had at least 3-4 more quality high end years left. But these dudes know they have to take care of their health. I hope this is a precautionary measure and not a response to some specific life altering thing. 

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Dude isn't even 30, big loss for the Lions dude was an All-Pro center multiple times over and entering an age where you figured he had at least 3-4 more quality high end years left. But these dudes know they have to take care of their health. I hope this is a precautionary measure and not a response to some specific life altering thing. 

The Lions window is quickly snapping shut. 

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

Yeah I agree. Not to mention it's a bit late in the off-season. I was reading in the FB thread the lions have his replacement already and he was talking about retiring last year I guess

 

 

RIP

They hope they have his replacement. 

[WotAGuy]

My wife takes over as the biggest Ragnow. 

[Captain Hindsight]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The Lions window is quickly snapping shut. 

Last year was their best shot

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Last year was their best shot

Nah, with hindsight, it was the chokejob vs the Niners in the NFCCG in 2023. Up 24-7 at half to lose 34-31. 

 

Last year they got riddled by injuries and lost their best defensive player for the season. They got blasted in the divisional round.

 

Now, everyone is a year older, they lose all of their coordinators, their All-Pro C retires.

 

Windows close fast in the NFL. Especially when you have a good QB instead of a great one. Look at the Niners, same deal. Talent erosion is impossible to stop over 2-3 seasons. 

 

[QB Bills]

I should know this but what is the origin of this Belinda thing again?

[stevewin]

A proper Belinda post has no message text - Mods need to start flagging improper Belinda use

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, QB Bills said:

I should know this but what is the origin of this Belinda thing again?

Belinda the term for a special pasta sauce made with pickle juice that was a favorite recipe of the site. In honor of how much we loved it back in the day we bring it up from time to time to honor pickle juice.

[BADOLBILZ]

17 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The Lions window is quickly snapping shut. 

 

9 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Last year was their best shot

 

 

Maybe but they have a more favorable schedule this season.    It's set up for them to get to the SB in much the same way the Bills schedule is.   Their division is tougher but the Lions schedule has the greatest rest advantage in the league.   It comes down to whether Campbell got the coordinator hires right and if they can stay healthier.    Losing a center is no big deal.  Just gotta' find a different body to block air on 3rd and long.

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, boyst said:

Belinda the term for a special pasta sauce made with pickle juice that was a favorite recipe of the site. In honor of how much we loved it back in the day we bring it up from time to time to honor pickle juice.

 

And retata means "nothing more."

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

Maybe but they have a more favorable schedule this season.    It's set up for them to get to the SB in much the same way the Bills schedule is.   Their division is tougher but the Lions schedule has the greatest rest advantage in the league.   It comes down to whether Campbell got the coordinator hires right and if they can stay healthier.    Losing a center is no big deal.  Just gotta' find a different body to block air on 3rd and long.

an All-Pro is an All-Pro and his loss will be felt. Especially with skittish Jared coming out to play and how screen/misdirection heavy the Lions offense has historically been.

 

Now, they may get away from that stuff without Ben Johnson. I don't think losing Ragnow is the same as losing Johnson, but it is more evidence that they are getting eroded piece by piece imo. 

[Royale with Cheese]

It was this....

 

 

[PetermansRedemption]

Reminds me of an Eric Wood type of retirement. Where there was some external factor that nudged him to that decision. 

[Starr Almighty]

14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

It was this....

 

 

I've read on this site that Ed isn't that good so if he did this to Ragnow the Lions won't miss him at all cause he sucks too 

[BADOLBILZ]

15 minutes ago, FireChans said:

an All-Pro is an All-Pro and his loss will be felt. Especially with skittish Jared coming out to play and how screen/misdirection heavy the Lions offense has historically been.

 

Now, they may get away from that stuff without Ben Johnson. I don't think losing Ragnow is the same as losing Johnson, but it is more evidence that they are getting eroded piece by piece imo. 

 

 

No the value of an All Pro is absolutely position dependent.    Centers have help on both sides and often spend the most important downs blocking air.  

 

And physically at least,  Tate Ratledge is an upgrade on Ragnow.    When you pick an interior offensive lineman in round 2 like that you are thinking he is going to be  a stud.    It's not like they have Colin Brown taking over at center.   Maybe you thought the Eagles would miss Kelce too but they didn't.   Jergens was just fine.    I know the outside opinion was that losing Mitch Morse last offseason was huge but he was easily upgraded upon.