The top 25 players under 25

[Kirby Jackson]

Think that this makes for an interesting offseason discussion:

 

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-25-players-under-25-2025-nfl-season

[Draconator]

1. Penei Sewell - T - Detroit
2. Puka Nacua - WR - Rams

3. Kyle Hamilton - S - Baltimore

4. Jayden Daniels - QB - Washington

5. Trent McDuffie - CD - Kansas City

6. Jared Verse - Edge - Rams

7. Will Anderson Jr - Edge - Houston

8. Brian Branch - S - Detroit

9. Bijan Robinson - RB - Atlanta

10. Jahmyr Gibbs - RB - Detroit

11. Drake London - WR - Atlanta

12. C.J. Stroud - QB - Houston

13. Derek Stingley Jr - CB - Houston

14. Brock Bowers - TE - Las Vegas

15. Malik Nabers - WR - Giants

16. Devon Witherspoon - CB - Seattle

17. Jalen Carter - DL - Philadelphia

18. Christian Benford - CB - Bills

19. Ladd McConkey - WR - Chargers

20. Brian Thomas Jr - WR - Jacksonville

21. De'Von Achane - RB - Miami

22. Tyler Smith - G - Dallas

23. Sam Laporta - TE - Detroit

24. Cooper Dejean - CB - Philadelphia

25. Kerby Joseph - S - Detroit

Edited Monday at 03:53 PM by Draconator

[JGMcD2]

Jared Verse being included cracks me up. Try doing this for 3 years prior too lol

 

[GunnerBill]

30 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Jared Verse being included cracks me up. Try doing this for 3 years prior too lol

 

 

I think Verse belongs on the list. He is too high though. There is no world in which he us better than Will Anderson. And I liked Verse a lot coming out. He was my EDGE1 last year.

 

He belongs in the 15-25 territory. Not top 10.

Edited Monday at 04:26 PM by GunnerBill

[julian]

Bowers and Thomas jr should be higher in my opinion 

[skibum]

Good for CBCB cracking the top 20!

[Kirby Jackson]

8 minutes ago, julian said:

Bowers and Thomas jr should be higher in my opinion 

I’ve seen Bowers before. You can’t convince me that guy is under 35, forget about 25!! 

[Doc Brown]

No respect for Tremaine Edmunds.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said:

Jared Verse being included cracks me up. Try doing this for 3 years prior too lol

 

Finished second in the league all time for pressures created with 77 (three behind Bosa's rookie year) by a rookie since they started counted pressures.  Also, PFF has him as one of four rookies in NFL history to have a pass and run defense grade above 78.4.  The other's being Garrett and two other guys named Von Miller and Joey Bosa????

 

Rousseau has never been close to that kind of defensive impact.

Edited Monday at 05:28 PM by Doc Brown

[Nephilim17]

Detroit drafting very well. 

[JGMcD2]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Finished second in the league all time for pressures created with 77 (three behind Bosa's rookie year) by a rookie since they started counted pressures.  Also, PFF has him as one of four rookies in NFL history to have a pass and run defense grade above 78.4.  The other's being Garrett and two other guys named Von Miller and Joey Bosa????

 

Rousseau has never been close to that kind of defensive impact.

100 more snaps and the same age as a rookie as Rousseau is in his 4th season. Rousseau generated pressure on 8.6% of his snaps (63/735) and Verse generated pressure on 9.2% of his snaps (77/834). Rousseau had never even crossed the 600 snap plateau prior to this season, it's a volume thing in the way we rotate our defensive lineman, and he still put up similar or better volume stats in his age 21, 22 and 23 seasons.

 

Rousseau showed exactly why the Bills should cut him a check, after earning his third-straight season surpassing an 80.0-plus overall grade. During the regular season, the 24-year-old pass-rusher generated 63 total pressures — tied for the 10th most among edge defenders.

 

What's more impressive, Greg Rousseau who’s been playing at this level for three years (age 22-24), or Jared Verse (age 24) who has done it once. I’ll take the proven track record every time. 

 

You’re overhyping their guy and underselling your own.

Edited Monday at 06:52 PM by JGMcD2

[Draconator]

42 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

No respect for Tremaine Edmunds.

 

2 hours ago, Draconator said:

1. Penei Sewell - T - Detroit
2. Puka Nacua - WR - Rams

3. Kyle Hamilton - S - Baltimore

4. Jayden Daniels - QB - Washington

5. Trent McDuffie - CD - Kansas City

6. Jared Verse - Edge - Rams

7. Will Anderson Jr - Edge - Houston

8. Brian Branch - S - Detroit

9. Bijan Robinson - RB - Atlanta

10. Jahmyr Gibbs - RB - Detroit

11. Drake London - WR - Atlanta

12. C.J. Stroud - QB - Houston

13. Derek Stingley Jr - CB - Houston

14. Brock Bowers - TE - Las Vegas

15. Malik Nabers - WR - Giants

16. Devon Witherspoon - CB - Seattle

17. Jalen Carter - DL - Philadelphia

18. Christian Benford - CB - Bills

19. Ladd McConkey - WR - Chargers

20. Brian Thomas Jr - WR - Jacksonville

21. De'Von Achane - RB - Miami

22. Tyler Smith - G - Dallas

23. Sam Laporta - TE - Detroit

24. Cooper Dejean - CB - Philadelphia

25. Kerby Joseph - S - Detroit

 

Honorable Mention: Tremaine Edmunds.

Edited Monday at 05:55 PM by Draconator

[MPL]

42 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

No respect for Tremaine Edmunds.

Check the Top-25 Players That Are Still Only 19 list.  

[JerseyBills]

48 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Finished second in the league all time for pressures created with 77 (three behind Bosa's rookie year) by a rookie since they started counted pressures.  Also, PFF has him as one of four rookies in NFL history to have a pass and run defense grade above 78.4.  The other's being Garrett and two other guys named Von Miller and Joey Bosa????

 

Rousseau has never been close to that kind of defensive impact.

yup, no impact smh

 

Edited Monday at 06:13 PM by JerseyBills

[Charles Romes]

I never thought nacua was that good. Then we played him. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Having Cook, Rousseau, and Torrence all age 25 and not below doesn’t help the Bills for this list. 
 

Edit: As has been pointed out, I also missed that Shakir is 25. 

Edited Tuesday at 12:57 PM by JohnBonhamRocks

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

No respect for Tremaine Edmunds.

 

You can only be on the list for 15 years in a row, then they drop you off.

[Pete]

40 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

100 more snaps and the same age as a rookie as Rousseau is in his 4th season. Rousseau generated pressure on 8.6% of his snaps (63/735) and Verse generated pressure on 9.2% of his snaps (77/834. Rousseau had never even crossed the 600 snap plateau prior to this season, it's a volume thing in the way we rotate our defensive lineman, and he still put up similar or better volume stats in his age 21, 22 and 23 seasons.

 

Rousseau showed exactly why the Bills should cut him a check, after earning his third-straight season surpassing an 80.0-plus overall grade. During the regular season, the 24-year-old pass-rusher generated 63 total pressures — tied for the 10th most among edge defenders.

 

What's more impressive, Greg Rousseau who’s been playing at this level for three years (age 22-24), or Jared Verse (age 24) who has done it once. I’ll take the proven track record every time. 

 

You’re overhyping their guy and underselling your own.

Rousseau is great against the run as well.  Sacks are a collective effort. For example a QB gets flushed out of the pocket by Ed Oliver, and runs in Groots direction for an easy sack.  Bills did major upgrades at Edge and DT.  TJ will be bringing interior pressure.  Bosa and Hoecht will bring pressure.  This will help Ed, and watch Groots sack #  grow

[Doc Brown]

37 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

yup, no impact smh

 

Where did I say Rousseau had no impact?  As for never coming close to that kind of production.........

 

[JGMcD2]

6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Where did I say Rousseau had no impact?  As for never coming close to that kind of production.........

 

 

1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said:

100 more snaps and the same age as a rookie as Rousseau is in his 4th season. Rousseau generated pressure on 8.6% of his snaps (63/735) and Verse generated pressure on 9.2% of his snaps (77/834). Rousseau had never even crossed the 600 snap plateau prior to this season, it's a volume thing in the way we rotate our defensive lineman, and he still put up similar or better volume stats in his age 21, 22 and 23 seasons.

 

Rousseau showed exactly why the Bills should cut him a check, after earning his third-straight season surpassing an 80.0-plus overall grade. During the regular season, the 24-year-old pass-rusher generated 63 total pressures — tied for the 10th most among edge defenders.

 

What's more impressive, Greg Rousseau who’s been playing at this level for three years (age 22-24), or Jared Verse (age 24) who has done it once. I’ll take the proven track record every time. 

 

You’re overhyping their guy and underselling your own.

Except for the fact that he has, and it was carefully curated for you.