Kirby Jackson Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Think that this makes for an interesting offseason discussion: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-25-players-under-25-2025-nfl-season 1 Quote
Draconator Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 1. Penei Sewell - T - Detroit 2. Puka Nacua - WR - Rams 3. Kyle Hamilton - S - Baltimore 4. Jayden Daniels - QB - Washington 5. Trent McDuffie - CD - Kansas City 6. Jared Verse - Edge - Rams 7. Will Anderson Jr - Edge - Houston 8. Brian Branch - S - Detroit 9. Bijan Robinson - RB - Atlanta 10. Jahmyr Gibbs - RB - Detroit 11. Drake London - WR - Atlanta 12. C.J. Stroud - QB - Houston 13. Derek Stingley Jr - CB - Houston 14. Brock Bowers - TE - Las Vegas 15. Malik Nabers - WR - Giants 16. Devon Witherspoon - CB - Seattle 17. Jalen Carter - DL - Philadelphia 18. Christian Benford - CB - Bills 19. Ladd McConkey - WR - Chargers 20. Brian Thomas Jr - WR - Jacksonville 21. De'Von Achane - RB - Miami 22. Tyler Smith - G - Dallas 23. Sam Laporta - TE - Detroit 24. Cooper Dejean - CB - Philadelphia 25. Kerby Joseph - S - Detroit Edited 2 hours ago by Draconator 6 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Jared Verse being included cracks me up. Try doing this for 3 years prior too lol 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Jared Verse being included cracks me up. Try doing this for 3 years prior too lol I think Verse belongs on the list. He is too high though. There is no world in which he us better than Will Anderson. And I liked Verse a lot coming out. He was my EDGE1 last year. He belongs in the 15-25 territory. Not top 10. Edited 2 hours ago by GunnerBill 2 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, julian said: Bowers and Thomas jr should be higher in my opinion I’ve seen Bowers before. You can’t convince me that guy is under 35, forget about 25!! 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: Jared Verse being included cracks me up. Try doing this for 3 years prior too lol Finished second in the league all time for pressures created with 77 (three behind Bosa's rookie year) by a rookie since they started counted pressures. Also, PFF has him as one of four rookies in NFL history to have a pass and run defense grade above 78.4. The other's being Garrett and two other guys named Von Miller and Joey Bosa???? Rousseau has never been close to that kind of defensive impact. Edited 1 hour ago by Doc Brown Quote
JGMcD2 Posted 46 minutes ago Posted 46 minutes ago (edited) 26 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Finished second in the league all time for pressures created with 77 (three behind Bosa's rookie year) by a rookie since they started counted pressures. Also, PFF has him as one of four rookies in NFL history to have a pass and run defense grade above 78.4. The other's being Garrett and two other guys named Von Miller and Joey Bosa???? Rousseau has never been close to that kind of defensive impact. 100 more snaps and the same age as a rookie as Rousseau is in his 4th season. Rousseau generated pressure on 8.6% of his snaps (63/735) and Verse generated pressure on 9.2% of his snaps (77/834. Rousseau had never even crossed the 600 snap plateau prior to this season, it's a volume thing in the way we rotate our defensive lineman, and he still put up similar or better volume stats in his age 21, 22 and 23 seasons. Rousseau showed exactly why the Bills should cut him a check, after earning his third-straight season surpassing an 80.0-plus overall grade. During the regular season, the 24-year-old pass-rusher generated 63 total pressures — tied for the 10th most among edge defenders. What's more impressive, Greg Rousseau who’s been playing at this level for three years (age 22-24), or Jared Verse (age 24) who has done it once. I’ll take the proven track record every time. You’re overhyping their guy and underselling your own. Edited 42 minutes ago by JGMcD2 3 Quote
Draconator Posted 38 minutes ago Posted 38 minutes ago (edited) 42 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No respect for Tremaine Edmunds. 2 hours ago, Draconator said: 1. Penei Sewell - T - Detroit 2. Puka Nacua - WR - Rams 3. Kyle Hamilton - S - Baltimore 4. Jayden Daniels - QB - Washington 5. Trent McDuffie - CD - Kansas City 6. Jared Verse - Edge - Rams 7. Will Anderson Jr - Edge - Houston 8. Brian Branch - S - Detroit 9. Bijan Robinson - RB - Atlanta 10. Jahmyr Gibbs - RB - Detroit 11. Drake London - WR - Atlanta 12. C.J. Stroud - QB - Houston 13. Derek Stingley Jr - CB - Houston 14. Brock Bowers - TE - Las Vegas 15. Malik Nabers - WR - Giants 16. Devon Witherspoon - CB - Seattle 17. Jalen Carter - DL - Philadelphia 18. Christian Benford - CB - Bills 19. Ladd McConkey - WR - Chargers 20. Brian Thomas Jr - WR - Jacksonville 21. De'Von Achane - RB - Miami 22. Tyler Smith - G - Dallas 23. Sam Laporta - TE - Detroit 24. Cooper Dejean - CB - Philadelphia 25. Kerby Joseph - S - Detroit Honorable Mention: Tremaine Edmunds. Edited 37 minutes ago by Draconator Quote
MPL Posted 38 minutes ago Posted 38 minutes ago 42 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No respect for Tremaine Edmunds. Check the Top-25 Players That Are Still Only 19 list. 1 Quote
JerseyBills Posted 25 minutes ago Posted 25 minutes ago (edited) 48 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Finished second in the league all time for pressures created with 77 (three behind Bosa's rookie year) by a rookie since they started counted pressures. Also, PFF has him as one of four rookies in NFL history to have a pass and run defense grade above 78.4. The other's being Garrett and two other guys named Von Miller and Joey Bosa???? Rousseau has never been close to that kind of defensive impact. yup, no impact smh Edited 20 minutes ago by JerseyBills 2 Quote
Charles Romes Posted 11 minutes ago Posted 11 minutes ago I never thought nacua was that good. Then we played him. Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago Having Cook, Rousseau, and Torrence all age 25 and not below doesn’t help the Bills for this list. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: No respect for Tremaine Edmunds. You can only be on the list for 15 years in a row, then they drop you off. Quote
Process Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: I never thought nacua was that good. Then we played him. Yea that game really opened my eyes to him. Guy is a stud, legit top 5. Quote
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