Gabe Davis released

[Doc Brown]

44 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

What?  That is LITERALLY the point of how the WR room is BETTER now than when we had a guy who had no business being a WR2 starting as a WR2.  How is this confusing for you?  Not to mention, our WR4 and WR5 were journeyman backups in Sherfield and Harty where now we have Samuel and Moore, 2 guys who have done more and could compete to start still on other teams.

 

So yeah...2025 WR room has 5 players on it that could start on other teams.  2023 team had 2 and Davis, who you said should never be a starting WR2. 

 

So how is the 2025 WR room not better than the 2023 group?  

You're honestly confusing the hell out of me.  You're also asking a really dumb question. 

 

We have the benefit of hindsight with the 2023 WR room and we have no clue how good this 2025 WR room will be.  So the best way I can answer the question is if you asked me to rank both WR groups before the start of each season it wouldn't be close.  The 2023 WR room would look far better than the 2025 WR room mostly because we had an alpha WR1 going into 2023.  Diggs was coming off a 1,429 yard season with 11 TD's.  Davis was younger and there was still optimism that he could improve because of the high ankle sprain he had early in the season in 2022 as WR2.  Harty and Sherfield were being sold as untapped potential that could blossom with Josh Allen as the QB.  Shakir we weren't even sure was going to make the team.  

 

Right now on paper our best WR weapon is a tiny slot guy that can attack the short and intermediate areas of the field but isn't a deep threat.  The rest until proven otherwise would be considered an average WR3 or 4 on most teams.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I just remembered I have a Davis jersey. Now I’m all in.

[JohnNord]

On 5/7/2025 at 9:45 AM, vtnatefootball11 said:

I'd take him as a WR #5/6, good blocker, good locker room guy, could play ST if needed. Would have to set the clear expectation that it's not gonna be a starter/captain situation like last time, but he's certainly worthy of being on a roster. Still don't love not having a single plus starter, but our room would be deep:

 

1. Shakir

2. Coleman

3. Palmer

4. Moore

5. Samuel

6. Davis

 

 

If he has options, I don’t see Gabe jumping at an opportunity to compete for WR4/5 while likely signing a vet minimum.   
 

if he’s going to sign for that, he might as well pick a situation where he’ll get a chance to prove himself.  
 

If he returns to Buffalo, I think it happens later this summer because of injuries or if Coleman hasn’t made the progress they are hoping for.  
 

Plus Gabe has an injury now, and it might make more sense for him to try out at full strength

[Pete]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

What trait is that?

Speed, routes, and deep horizontal routes - 3 qualities clearly missing on 2024 Bills.

Edited 4 hours ago by Pete

[BuffaloBillyG]

Failed physical. Maybe some setbacks?

[DapperCam]

8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Failed physical. Maybe some setbacks?

Sad, Jags probably figured he won’t play much this year or be effective due to injury.

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

Sad, Jags probably figured he won’t play much this year or be effective due to injury.

Well thats the end of the thread , right ?

 Failed physical

 

[BillsfaninSB]

10 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Well thats the end of the thread , right ?

 Failed physical

 

As long as Gabe Davis walks this earth, he will be in the discussion.  Surprised no Tyrod Taylor threads yet. 

[GASabresIUFan]

28 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Well thats the end of the thread , right ?

 Failed physical

 

Lets hope 

 

There should be a rule, if you aren’t good enough to play for the Jags, you aren’t good enough for the Bills.

Edited 4 hours ago by GASabresIUFan

[DapperCam]

50 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Well thats the end of the thread , right ?

 Failed physical

 

I would think so. Maybe a late season add as a street FA if he has healed up a bit with more time.

[Mikie2times]

56 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Well thats the end of the thread , right ?

 Failed physical

 

Until I see him dipped in molten lava like the terminator I'm assuming it's not over. 

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

You're honestly confusing the hell out of me.  You're also asking a really dumb question. 

 

We have the benefit of hindsight with the 2023 WR room and we have no clue how good this 2025 WR room will be.  So the best way I can answer the question is if you asked me to rank both WR groups before the start of each season it wouldn't be close.  The 2023 WR room would look far better than the 2025 WR room mostly because we had an alpha WR1 going into 2023.  Diggs was coming off a 1,429 yard season with 11 TD's.  Davis was younger and there was still optimism that he could improve because of the high ankle sprain he had early in the season in 2022 as WR2.  Harty and Sherfield were being sold as untapped potential that could blossom with Josh Allen as the QB.  Shakir we weren't even sure was going to make the team.  

 

Right now on paper our best WR weapon is a tiny slot guy that can attack the short and intermediate areas of the field but isn't a deep threat.  The rest until proven otherwise would be considered an average WR3 or 4 on most teams.

 

Wait what? You want to instead compare the belief of what 2023 MIGHT be prior to playing instead of what we now KNOW they were after playing?  Come on, this is getting silly now.  No disrespect, but Diggs in 2022 has nothing to do with what Diggs was for all of 2023. 

 

Second, I already posted this just prior to your post, I am just gonna quote it below rather than rewrite it again.  As far as having "no clue" what this group is just something I don't agree with, we know enough to have a reasonable idea of what each guy is in comparison to the guys who were here in 2023.  Its fine if you agree or disagree with any of the below, but IMHO I think they are all fair statements and I think several really aren't disputable.  

 

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I think we know more than you may realize...

• We know Diggs wasn't the same in Brady's offense and also had some big drops. 
• We know that Palmer is seen to have better hands, bigger route tree, better route runner, and more consistent at getting open than Davis has been. 
• We know Keon was on pace as a rookie before he got hurt in week 11 to hit 800-900 yards and 7+ TD's. And this was despite not being a full time starter, playing in a spread the ball around offense that saw Allen connecting with 8 to 10 different receivers most weeks.
• We know Shakir is a better player in 2025 than he was in 2023. 
• We know Samuel is better than Sherfield. 
• We know Moore is better than Harty.  

So yes, we haven't seen the group on the field yet...nothing is certain...but its more than reasonable to think our WR situation is better today than when Gabe Davis last walked off the field playing for the Bills.  

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[TBBills Fan]

1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

Well thats the end of the thread , right ?

 Failed physical

 

This thread is just warming up.  We got at least another 30 pages in us.  Offseaon mode

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

Well thats the end of the thread , right ?

 Failed physical

 

 

Do threads ever end here?  LOL

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Wait what? You want to instead compare the belief of what 2023 MIGHT be prior to playing instead of what we now KNOW they were after playing?  Come on, this is getting silly now.  No disrespect, but Diggs in 2022 has nothing to do with what Diggs was for all of 2023. 

 

Second, I already posted this just prior to your post, I am just gonna quote it below rather than rewrite it again.  As far as having "no clue" what this group is just something I don't agree with, we know enough to have a reasonable idea of what each guy is in comparison to the guys who were here in 2023.  Its fine if you agree or disagree with any of the below, but IMHO I think they are all fair statements and I think several really aren't disputable.  

 

 

Do you know what hindsight is and why it matters when comparing the 2023 WR class compared to the 2025 WR class?

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, DapperCam said:

I would think so. Maybe a late season add as a street FA if he has healed up a bit with more time.

That's a reasonable take.

 No hate on the Man.

get healthy , you have our number

[Alphadawg7]

24 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Do you know what hindsight is and why it matters when comparing the 2023 WR class compared to the 2025 WR class?

 

Lol...lets just agree to disagree because this is getting silly at this point.  I mean you want to ignore the known data, which is disparaging to your argument that shows 2 of the WRs are fringe roster guys, Diggs season was worse than 2022, and the WR2 is not a starting caliber WR2...to instead use the make believe expectations of that 2023 squad we already know never happened. 

 

No disrespect, but I stick to known information and make educated guesses and opinions on what we know.  And based on what we know, the information leads me to the opinion that to win the SB this year, the 2025 group gives us the better chance than the 2023 group, and its who I would roll with, and its not a tough decision for me.  

[Richard Noggin]

3 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said:

As long as Gabe Davis walks this earth, he will be in the discussion.  Surprised no Tyrod Taylor threads yet. 

 

Wait...is Tyrod Taylor available?!?!

[Doc Brown]

27 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Lol...lets just agree to disagree because this is getting silly at this point.  I mean you want to ignore the known data, which is disparaging to your argument that shows 2 of the WRs are fringe roster guys, Diggs season was worse than 2022, and the WR2 is not a starting caliber WR2...to instead use the make believe expectations of that 2023 squad we already know never happened. 

 

No disrespect, but I stick to known information and make educated guesses and opinions on what we know.  And based on what we know, the information leads me to the opinion that to win the SB this year, the 2025 group gives us the better chance than the 2023 group, and its who I would roll with, and its not a tough decision for me.  

I doubt you're capable.