Why Landon Jackson is the next MONSTER in the NFL

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, ***** said:

What was Jackson’s injury?  It was never mentioned but, he may have been hampered during the offseason and not at 100%

Liked riding jet skis in the offseason? 🤔

[Warriorspikes51]

so far a letdown.  Don't expect much of a contribution.  IMO may be inactive Solomon flashed more 

[CoudyBills]

11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

so far a letdown.  Don't expect much of a contribution.  IMO may be inactive Solomon flashed more 

Well, Mike Wazowski is one of the most famous monsters.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

43 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

so far a letdown.  Don't expect much of a contribution.  IMO may be inactive Solomon flashed more 

Agreed, and honestly it's ok if he needs some developmental time. Let him be the gameday inactive and learn from Groot, Bosa, and AJ. 

[PrimeTime101]

This aged well lol

[billsfan89]

42 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Agreed, and honestly it's ok if he needs some developmental time. Let him be the gameday inactive and learn from Groot, Bosa, and AJ. 

 

Groot, Bosa, Hoecht and even AJE all had to learn to use their bodies, adjust their weight/body for the NFL level, or learn to grow into their bodies at the NFL level. Jackson has a good group of guys to learn how to use his physical tools at the NFL level. A lot of the 2022 picks besides Benford didn't make much of an impact. Shakir was buried on the depth chart on a team desperate for WR's besides Diggs, Cook was a role player (a good one but not that much better than Davis was this past year), and Bernard was a non-factor. Sometimes guys need a year to "get it".

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, billsfan89 said:

 

Groot, Bosa, Hoecht and even AJE all had to learn to use their bodies, adjust their weight/body for the NFL level, or learn to grow into their bodies at the NFL level. Jackson has a good group of guys to learn how to use his physical tools at the NFL level. A lot of the 2022 picks besides Benford didn't make much of an impact. Shakir was buried on the depth chart on a team desperate for WR's besides Diggs, Cook was a role player (a good one but not that much better than Davis was this past year), and Bernard was a non-factor. Sometimes guys need a year to "get it".

Honestly, usually a guy needs a year or two to "get it."

 

I'm thankful we have awesome depth in front of him. 

[billsfan89]

Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Honestly, usually a guy needs a year or two to "get it."

 

I'm thankful we have awesome depth in front of him. 

 

You want some of your rookies (typically the guys drafted in rounds 1-3) to make an impact. Typically if you could get 1-2 guys to start as rookies effectively and another 2-3 to come in as role players you are sitting pretty. But if you have 7 picks and 1 guy is a starter and 2 guys are role players that leaves 4 guys that are going to need to develop for a year or two. I am not going to say that I am not disappointed that Jackson is thus far looking like he might not be able to take on the 4th DE in rotation role that Smoot had last year as a rookie. But I would much rather the Bills have taken a "freak" athlete at a premium position who might need a year or two to develop into a starter in a draft where they went into it having 4 quality DE's on the roster (Groot, Bosa, AJE, and Hoecht) and a 2nd year mid-round pick also in the wings for depth. 

[26TrapDraw]

4 hours ago, finn said:

He does have a lot going for him. Crazy motor, plays like a wolverine. Freakishly long arms, plenty of power. He'll never bend like Von Miller, but I think he could easily stick as a valuable rotational piece. 

you forgot Excellent Mr. Clean Likeness.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

14 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

You want some of your rookies (typically the guys drafted in rounds 1-3) to make an impact. Typically if you could get 1-2 guys to start as rookies effectively and another 2-3 to come in as role players you are sitting pretty. But if you have 7 picks and 1 guy is a starter and 2 guys are role players that leaves 4 guys that are going to need to develop for a year or two. I am not going to say that I am not disappointed that Jackson is thus far looking like he might not be able to take on the 4th DE in rotation role that Smoot had last year as a rookie. But I would much rather the Bills have taken a "freak" athlete at a premium position who might need a year or two to develop into a starter in a draft where they went into it having 4 quality DE's on the roster (Groot, Bosa, AJE, and Hoecht) and a 2nd year mid-round pick also in the wings for depth. 

Totally, but you can't really "expect" it, it's just not realistic. Everyone thought Walker would need time and Jackson would push for DE3. Maybe by November we won't be able to keep Jackson off the field. There is a chance Walker vs starting caliber OLmen may not be as impactful as he's looked. Hard to say! Can't wait to see how things play out. 

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

If Oliver and Rousseau were studs in the playoffs, we wouldn't be reduced to wishing for a third round developmental pick to become a "monster"...

 

Well, they weren't and who knows if they'll ever be true gamewreckers?  We swung and missed on Von. We can't afford Parsons or Hendrickson. I don’t have the perfect solution.  We gotta keep drafting pass rushers until a star arises.

[Dablitzkrieg]

So far underwhelming 

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Well, they weren't and who knows if they'll ever be true gamewreckers?  We swung and missed on Von. We can't afford Parsons or Hendrickson. I don’t have the perfect solution.  We gotta keep drafting pass rushers until a star arises.

 

It's pretty much this, Bills can't afford on the cap a true proven game wrecker. they gotta keep drafting 1-2 D-line players each year to see if they can find a diamond in the rough. I also think they are gonna go after older or injury prone once dominant pass rushers with warts like Bosa and hope maybe you get one great season out of them here or there to fill in the gaps. The Bills actually were just unfortunate with Von because Von in 2022 up until he got hurt (on a rather freak play) was producing like an elite pass rusher despite the rotational snaps. Von's pass rush numbers were up there with Myles Garrett that year despite Von only having played 55% of snaps vs. Myles 75% (of course Von nowhere near the run defender). 

 

The Bills really just can't afford to pay retail for a pass rusher, it's either gonna be take swings in the draft or sign upper-mid level older stars like Bosa and hope you get a healthy bounce back season. 

[pennstate10]

7 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Liked riding jet skis in the offseason? 🤔

Hmmm.  Oddly specific. 

[Bad Things]

8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

so far a letdown.  Don't expect much of a contribution.  IMO may be inactive Solomon flashed more 

He hasn't played a farking game yet and you feel let down.  Why don't you have some warm milk and take a nap.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, pennstate10 said:

Hmmm.  Oddly specific. 

😁

[3rdand12]

3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

It's pretty much this, Bills can't afford on the cap a true proven game wrecker. they gotta keep drafting 1-2 D-line players each year to see if they can find a diamond in the rough. I also think they are gonna go after older or injury prone once dominant pass rushers with warts like Bosa and hope maybe you get one great season out of them here or there to fill in the gaps. The Bills actually were just unfortunate with Von because Von in 2022 up until he got hurt (on a rather freak play) was producing like an elite pass rusher despite the rotational snaps. Von's pass rush numbers were up there with Myles Garrett that year despite Von only having played 55% of snaps vs. Myles 75% (of course Von nowhere near the run defender). 

 

The Bills really just can't afford to pay retail for a pass rusher, it's either gonna be take swings in the draft or sign upper-mid level older stars like Bosa and hope you get a healthy bounce back season. 

well if thats the case  Bills better strengthen up at LB and Secondary

Raise that floor !

[Sierra Foothills]

12 hours ago, Andrew Son said:

The problem is, year after year we keep investing heavily in the same position group and it continues to be a problem.

 

We need at least two out of three of this rookie DL class to hit IMO.

 

This is what gives me confidence that the D-line is no longer a problem...

 

Joey Bosa

Larry Ogunjobi

Michael Hoecht

AJ Sanders

Landon Jackson

Deone Walker

 

The Bills didn't just double down on D-line... they sextupled down.

 

IMO the investment is so heavy that the return on investment is assured even if it's some fraction of 6... the chances that they're not improved are almost non-existent.

 

If only 3 of the above play to expectations they'll be much improved. Barring injury I'm expecting 4 of them to contribute significantly this year.

 

Edited Monday at 11:14 PM by Sierra Foothills

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

This is what gives me confidence that the D-line is no longer a problem...

 

Joey Bosa

Larry Ogunjobi

Michael Hoecht

AJ Sanders

Landon Jackson

Deone Walker

 

The Bills didn't just double down on D-line... they sextupled down.

 

IMO the investment is so heavy that the return on investment is assured even if it's some fraction of 6... the chances that they're not improved are almost non-existent.

 

If only 3 of the above play to expectations they'll be much improved. Barring injury I'm expecting 4 of them to contribute significantly this year.

 

Yeah, okay, but if they really wanted to guarantee at least making it to the Super Bowl, they should have signed Taylor Swift.

[Sierra Foothills]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Yeah, okay, but if they really wanted to guarantee at least making it to the Super Bowl, they should have signed Taylor Swift.

 

I'll ride with Hailee Steinfeld... (even if she won't ride with me)