Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!

[Andrew Son]

12 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I'd be excited for Meyers.  Like you said, he's an upgrade, and the attention defenses would give him might open up things for the other receivers a bit more. 

 

 

And Keon would no longer be the slowest WR on the team!

[BillsFanForever19]

15 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

Hollins was the one guy who showed against KC and we let him walk.  

 

Our only alternative was to match or beat New England's offer of not only money, but a starting role. Hollins was never supposed to have as big of a role as he did for us. As much as he's loved, people overestimate what he did for us last season. He was a sub 400 yard guy for us last season. You don't want to start Mack Hollins - you want to do better than that.

 

On paper and in terms of skill, Joshua Palmer is a better WR than Hollins. As much of a disappointment as he's seemed (especially with the injury now) - he still has 234 yards in under 6 games vs. Mack's 378 for 17 games.

[dorquemada]

54 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Our only alternative was to match or beat New England's offer of not only money, but a starting role. Hollins was never supposed to have as big of a role as he did for us. As much as he's loved, people overestimate what he did for us last season. He was a sub 400 yard guy for us last season. You don't want to start Mack Hollins - you want to do better than that.

 

On paper and in terms of skill, Joshua Palmer is a better WR than Hollins. As much of a disappointment as he's seemed (especially with the injury now) - he still has 234 yards in under 6 games vs. Mack's 378 for 17 games.

 

I’d take Hollis back rn.  He’d be WR2

[nedboy7]

6 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

I’d take Hollis back rn.  He’d be WR2

 

I was shocked something so reasonable and logical did not happen.  I feel Bean's decisions this year have been some his worst.  Which is concerning.  

[Success]

Question for anyone who wants to answer:

 

Objectively, are we a bottom 5 WR corps in the league?

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

8 minutes ago, Success said:

Question for anyone who wants to answer:

 

Objectively, are we a bottom 5 WR corps in the league?

 

Ohhh good question:

 

I’d say the Raiders are probably the worst in the league. Giants without Nabers are there, too. Titans and Browns are in the conversation. 
 

Other than that most teams have a clear #1 option or multiple guys who are well respected IMO 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Our only alternative was to match or beat New England's offer of not only money, but a starting role. Hollins was never supposed to have as big of a role as he did for us. As much as he's loved, people overestimate what he did for us last season. He was a sub 400 yard guy for us last season. You don't want to start Mack Hollins - you want to do better than that.

 

On paper and in terms of skill, Joshua Palmer is a better WR than Hollins. As much of a disappointment as he's seemed (especially with the injury now) - he still has 234 yards in under 6 games vs. Mack's 378 for 17 games.

In your humble opinion.  I disagree 💯 
 

our offense misses him.  

[TBBills Fan]

Beane needs to hire an Indian telemarketing company to call the saints facility non stop till we get one of their wrs

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, Success said:

Question for anyone who wants to answer:

 

Objectively, are we a bottom 5 WR corps in the league?

 

If this is all we can get out of Keon Coleman, definitely.

 

I do believe that Palmer is a good piece that we haven’t seen the best of yet.  He hasn’t been used and I think he will be when he returns.  

 

[Dr.Sack]

Think of Kincaid as a WR. 

[FireChans]

22 minutes ago, Success said:

Question for anyone who wants to answer:

 

Objectively, are we a bottom 5 WR corps in the league?

 

Of course we are. 

[Warriorspikes51]

5 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

Think of Kincaid as a WR. 

his knee was wrapped in a photo postgame

[BillsFooteball]

28 minutes ago, Success said:

Question for anyone who wants to answer:

 

Objectively, are we a bottom 5 WR corps in the league?

 

Absolutely and has nothing to do with injuries. Going into the season talent wise it’s a bottom 5 WR unit in NFL. 

[Richard Noggin]

12 minutes ago, NewEra said:

In your humble opinion.  I disagree 💯 
 

our offense misses him.  

 

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

If this is all we can get out of Keon Coleman, definitely.

 

I do believe that Palmer is a good piece that we haven’t seen the best of yet.  He hasn’t been used and I think he will be when he returns.  

 

 

The real kicker is that the Bills came out against Atlanta seemingly, finally committed to attacking deep and intermediate with Palmer, only to have him get injured on an illegal/scummy hip drop tackle just as he was grooving. 

[BillsFanForever19]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

In your humble opinion.  I disagree 💯 
 

our offense misses him.  

 

He was great on Special Teams. And he was a great blocker. 

 

But in 20 games for us last season, including 15 starts - he caught 36 balls, for 481 yards, and 6 TD's. Not even 500 yards on 20 games and 15 starts is pretty poor numbers.

 

Everyone considers Josh Palmer a bust, yet his yardage total is at half of Hollins' 20 game output in just 5 and a quarter games.

 

The warm fuzzy nostalgia for Hollins by this fanbase is out of control. 

[NewEra]

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He was great on Special Teams. And he was a great blocker. 

 

But in 20 games for us last season, including 15 starts - he caught 36 balls, for 481 yards, and 6 TD's. Not even 500 yards on 20 games and 15 starts is pretty poor numbers.

 

Everyone considers Josh Palmer a bust, yet his yardage total is at half of Hollins' 20 game output in just 5 and a quarter games.

 

The warm fuzzy nostalgia for Hollins by this fanbase is out of control. 

And he made several clutch catches and blocks throughout the year along with his locker room. presence.  We had no WRs last year….yet our passing game was much better than it is now.  Josh trusted him and he came through much more often than not.  25 of his 31 catches went for first downs.  Many on 3rd down.  He doesn’t trust any of our WRs downfield as he trusted Hollins
 

Cooper played 21% of the snaps….he helped but he wasn’t THAT important where he helped the offense even while he was on the bench 79% of the time.  

[Paup 1995MVP]

53 minutes ago, NewEra said:

And he made several clutch catches and blocks throughout the year along with his locker room. presence.  We had no WRs last year….yet our passing game was much better than it is now.  Josh trusted him and he came through much more often than not.  25 of his 31 catches went for first downs.  Many on 3rd down.  He doesn’t trust any of our WRs downfield as he trusted Hollins
 

Cooper played 21% of the snaps….he helped but he wasn’t THAT important where he helped the offense even while he was on the bench 79% of the time.  

Cooper had a nice game against Tennessee  And caught a long pass down the sideline against the Chiefs in the regular season game at the Ralph.  Other than that he sucked.  And looked very content standing on the sidelines.  The guy looked like he was barely trying when he was on the field.  
 

Beane has done an absolute ***** job fortifying the WR position for us the past 2 years.  In an offensive passing league w having a QB like Josh Allen he should be fired if he can’t find better.  Coleman plays like a marginal undrafted free agent.  What in the name of scouting college players for the NFL draft did the Bills see in this guy to draft him early in the 2nd round?  Wow!!

 

I think Keon has actually regressed since last year.  Put Shavers in his spot this week and let him run the routes they would have Keon running.  And see how he does.  It can’t be any worse. 

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

I think Keon has actually regressed since last year.  Put Shavers in his spot this week and let him run the routes they would have Keon running.  And see how he does.  It can’t be any worse. 

 

I was with you up until this. Shavers has no business being on the field, period. He's not an NFL caliber WR. He looks decent enough lined up against other Practice Squad players and guys who will be out of the league during the Pre-Season.

 

He's one of only 3 WR's on the roster to dress every game this year and has gone without a catch in 5 of the 7 games. He has not earned more playing time. If you think Coleman has a hard time getting open, you should watch Shavers running routes against actual NFL CB's.

 

The only thing Shavers should be doing is being the first guy out to make room for whomever we Trade for and/or Gabe Davis when he's ready.

Edited 10 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Pete]

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I was with you up until this. Shavers has no business being on the field, period. He's not an NFL caliber WR. He looks decent enough lined up against other Practice Squad players and guys who will be out of the league during the Pre-Season.

 

He's one of only 3 WR's on the roster to dress every game this year and has gone without a catch in 5 of the 7 games. He has not earned more playing time. If you think Coleman has a hard time getting open, you should watch Shavers running routes against actual NFL CB's.

 

The only thing Shavers should be doing is being the first guy out to make room for whomever we Trade for and/or Gabe Davis when he's ready.

Do you think Shavers would be worse than Coleman?  Shavers blocks, can catch, has scored a long TD in the NFL.  Coleman is so bad, I don’t see Shavers being worse 

[Pete]

4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

Think of Kincaid as a WR. 

Not the same position.  I think Kincaid of a receiving TE, not a complete TE like Knox.  Kincaid is emerging, his blocking is improved.  Jackson Hawes has played 194, Kincaid has played 189 snaps.  That shows the importance of being a more complete TE.  
 

Malik Nabors, Jamar Chase, Jefferson, Nacua, Kincaid-   One of these names doesn’t belong lol