DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 8 Posted January 8 On 1/8/2025 at 6:39 PM, Magox said: There are other motivations I don’t think so, since this has become the most polarized debate that I can remember, I wouldn’t be surprised that you get lots of split ticketing, where voters award Josh the MVP but Lamar as the first team All Pro. The selections don’t have the same criteria. Expand Yea, i fully expect the AP All-Pro nods to go to Jackson (1st team) and Burrow (2nd team) as a consolation prize for not winning MVP and acknowledgement they had fantastic seasons. Barkley gets OPOY 1 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Even when you do everything right, Josh Allen still makes you wrong more times than anyone else. 3 1 Quote
AllenMania Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) All three of them picked Lamar as their MVP. One of them was apparently a little influenced by Week 18 which makes no sense whatsoever. There is literally no context to these stats discussions. Team wins has completely disappeared from the conversation this year. Wonder why. Dan Orlovsky said something along the lines of "if we want the MVP to just be about stats, let the computer decide". Also wanted to share Michael Irvin going with Josh Allen and questioning why last year stats were good to win MVP but not this year. Edited January 8 by AllenMania 1 Quote
Blank Stare Posted January 8 Posted January 8 On 1/8/2025 at 8:12 PM, AllenMania said: Also wanted to share Michael Irvin going with Josh Allen and questioning why last year stats were good to win MVP but not this year. Expand Thank you, Michael Irvin! Stop changing the criteria all of a sudden. 2 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 9 Posted January 9 You know, I’ve always liked Nick Wright. 1 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Not the official MVP but Bills QB Josh Allen named 2024 NFL MVP by SI's MMQB https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bills-qb-josh-allen-named-2024-nfl-mvp-by-si-s-mmqb/ar-AA1xbzmw Quote
UKBillFan Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 1:38 AM, strive_for_five_guy said: You know, I’ve always liked Nick Wright. Expand The worrying moment when Nick Wright makes more sense than most pundits. 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 9 Posted January 9 I'm eager for it to be announced just so I don't have to listen to it being discussed. 1 1 Quote
zow2 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 The votes are in. It's over now and all the pundits opinions speaking on TV and social media means nothing. Josh is your MVP and hopefully he makes all the voters look good and has a great playoffs (defense too!) 1 Quote
MDH Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 10:57 AM, BuffaloBillyG said: I'm eager for it to be announced just so I don't have to listen to it being discussed. Expand You say while on page 97 of a message board thread discussing it… Quote
The Jokeman Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 2:35 PM, MDH said: You say while on page 97 of a message board thread discussing it… Expand Isn't it ironic? Don't you think... Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 2:35 PM, MDH said: You say while on page 97 of a message board thread discussing it… Expand Exactly. The thread never goes away. If you notice I haven't commented but once or twice before that post on it. It's just always there. I was speaking more on it being unable to escape the chatter about it anywhere. Social media, weekly shows, heck even the broadcast of the game. Funny thing is even though I believe voting closes this week and it's a done deal...we will have to listen to it continue to be debated without the ability to change anything for another month 1 Quote
Bray Wyatt Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 2:43 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: Exactly. The thread never goes away. If you notice I haven't commented but once or twice before that post on it. It's just always there. I was speaking more on it being unable to escape the chatter about it anywhere. Social media, weekly shows, heck even the broadcast of the game. Funny thing is even though I believe voting closes this week and it's a done deal...we will have to listen to it continue to be debated without the ability to change anything for another month Expand According to Acho (who has a vote), votes were due by 5 PM yesterday. 2 Quote
MDH Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 2:43 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: Exactly. The thread never goes away. If you notice I haven't commented but once or twice before that post on it. It's just always there. I was speaking more on it being unable to escape the chatter about it anywhere. Social media, weekly shows, heck even the broadcast of the game. Funny thing is even though I believe voting closes this week and it's a done deal...we will have to listen to it continue to be debated without the ability to change anything for another month Expand Yeah, I know, it’s become exhausting, I was just joking. 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 2:41 PM, The Jokeman said: Isn't it ironic? Don't you think... Expand A little too ironic 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Allen is going to get screwed out of the MVP because of Lamar having the better stats. Even though the argument we are using for Allen is the same argument Ravens fans used last year when Allen had 15 more TDs. We all know why Allen keeps getting snubbed, but people are too afraid to say it. 1 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/9/2025 at 4:44 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Allen is going to get screwed out of the MVP because of Lamar having the better stats. Even though the argument we are using for Allen is the same argument Ravens fans used last year when Allen had 15 more TDs. We all know why Allen keeps getting snubbed, but people are too afraid to say it. Expand And what is it? Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 9 Posted January 9 On 1/8/2025 at 7:12 PM, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Yea, i fully expect the AP All-Pro nods to go to Jackson (1st team) and Burrow (2nd team) as a consolation prize for not winning MVP and acknowledgement they had fantastic seasons. Barkley gets OPOY Expand Acho said a couple weeks ago Allen is 1st team all pro It's almost 100% that the AP MVP is first team all pro Quote
Doc Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Polymarket has Josh at 80% right now, the highest I’ve seen it since I started following it a few weeks ago. It did dip and Lamar’s rose after this past weekend. 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) On 1/9/2025 at 4:44 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Allen is going to get screwed out of the MVP because of Lamar having the better stats. Even though the argument we are using for Allen is the same argument Ravens fans used last year when Allen had 15 more TDs. We all know why Allen keeps getting snubbed, but people are too afraid to say it. Expand Dude why do we keep doing this rehashing it. It was over after the lions game @Biscuit_97 already explained it. No QB has ever won a 3rd MVP before winning a super bowl in NFL history No QB who was -200 or more in the past 20 years in the final 2 weeks has lost MVP Allen is currently -470 I think. Broussaard and Nick the troll Wright already said he is going to win. Orlovsky already said the obvious. He set a record for tds and points in team history and has the lowest negative plays in NFL history. The MVP ap voters are heavy on negative plays, turnovers. Allen had the highest differential in tds to turnovers in NFL history Lamar added a hof player and lost more Allen lost diggs and Davis and won more, scored more points and had less turnovers than Lamar lol He's going to win it almost unanimously. Lamar will get 4-8 votes Everyone still debating it is just to get clicks / create content Edited January 9 by Kelly to Allen 3 Quote
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