FireChans Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To me it depends how far I'm reaching. I want them to draft a WR at #28, I wanted them to go receiver in round 1 the last two years. I think Mitchell and Worthy are slight reaches by my board, but I'd do it. Franklin feels like just too much of a reach to me. Especially if I'm leaving top end prospects on the board at OT, CB or Edge. I can see the weary Brandon Beane presser when they go DE/S in rounds 1 and 2. "The DE we selected was our last first round prospect left" "Obviously, you look at WR as the strength of this class but you have to select the players at the top of your board, especially when the draft falls that way." And then Josh separates his shoulder week 8 trying to rush for his 20th TD of the year because he has no one to throw to. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I like Legette too, but I've done dozens of mock drafts and he's always available at 35-40. Just looking at the teams behind us I could see the next 10 picks take him, especially the Ravens, so I'm going to advise you that mock draft sites are pretty much just video games only they don't have the benefit of actual information to base their metrics on. I don't see Legette touching the 2nd rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/11/2024 at 2:55 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: My own speculation: 13. R. Odunze / Brian Thomas Jr - There is a VERY big difference between these two players. The fact that you would trade up to 13 for Thomas makes me question anything you post on the draft 33. Xavier Legette / Troy Franklin - See above. Legette should be gone by this time and you're overdrafting Franklin, these two are not interchangeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/11/2024 at 6:10 PM, mannc said: As I said above, I could envision a trade with Chicago because the Bears have only four picks in this draft and would likely be tempted by pick 60...that's really the only deal I could see with the Bills getting into the top 10...the problem is that I think other teams will also be targeting the Bears for a trade up... What would we give then THIS YEAR that would prompt them to make that trade? Our 1st and 2nd followed by next year's 1st and 2nd? So we pick one guy and then don't pick again til the 4th rd in this draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: What would we give then THIS YEAR that would prompt them to make that trade? Our 1st and 2nd followed by next year's 1st and 2nd? So we pick one guy and then don't pick again til the 4th rd in this draft? I think they would consider moving back to 28 in exchange for 60, plus next year's first, or maybe both of our second round picks next year. I don't see any way we could move up into the top half of the first round without giving up 60 this year. Teams don't want to drop back that far without some immediate return... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 21 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Just looking at the teams behind us I could see the next 10 picks take him, especially the Ravens, so I'm going to advise you that mock draft sites are pretty much just video games only they don't have the benefit of actual information to base their metrics on. I don't see Legette touching the 2nd rd. We shall see, I don't like your odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) Does this guy know something? 98 would be a 3rd round pick. Edited April 15 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummernut74 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Does this guy know something? 98 would be a 3rd round pick. NO F’ng WAY! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Does this guy know something? 98 would be a 3rd round pick. If four WRs are gone by the middle of the first round, I would find it tempting. You don't pull the trigger, of course until the Steelers are on the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Does this guy know something? 98 would be a 3rd round pick. Absolutely no way in the world would this make sense. If they give up 60 in this draft they are nuts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Does this guy know something? 98 would be a 3rd round pick. From a trade chart perspective it’s actually a slight win for the Bills. I’m just spitballing as I think they would want Brian Thomas but is he there at 20? I mean small chance. The Dolphins have spent a lot of time with Xavier Worthy so could it be Buffalo trying to move ahead of them for Worthy? I actually don’t mind giving up 60 because it’s a very dead spot for the Bills when it comes to position of need. Sure you could say Safety but the Bills might be getting just as good a safety in the 3rd/4th as in the 2nd. My grading of safeties isn’t that far apart. I fully expect DL to be washed by the time 60 roles around and they might be able to get an offensive tackle but goal # 1 is to get a big play WR in this draft. With that said Fillipponi is kind of known as a blowhard at times down in the Pittsburgh area so this could be more conjecture than something he’s heard 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 35 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: From a trade chart perspective it’s actually a slight win for the Bills. I’m just spitballing as I think they would want Brian Thomas but is he there at 20? I mean small chance. The Dolphins have spent a lot of time with Xavier Worthy so could it be Buffalo trying to move ahead of them for Worthy? I actually don’t mind giving up 60 because it’s a very dead spot for the Bills when it comes to position of need. Sure you could say Safety but the Bills might be getting just as good a safety in the 3rd/4th as in the 2nd. My grading of safeties isn’t that far apart. I fully expect DL to be washed by the time 60 roles around and they might be able to get an offensive tackle but goal # 1 is to get a big play WR in this draft. I agree that 60 isn’t the best spot this year … but I don’t see how trading down helps … they should be looking at trading up and getting another top prospect in this draft … In relation to the first pick …If Brian Thomas costs more than a fourth to move up for ( which means 2-3 spots ) than move on to the next guy … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I’d do that if Thomas Jr was still on the board at 20. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: Absolutely no way in the world would this make sense. If they give up 60 in this draft they are nuts. They get back a 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) On 4/11/2024 at 12:26 PM, Lost said: Didn't u read? They're drafting a Safety 🤣 I hope the pick is Donte Whitner Edited April 16 by Ayjent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 12 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I agree that 60 isn’t the best spot this year … but I don’t see how trading down helps … they should be looking at trading up and getting another top prospect in this draft … In relation to the first pick …If Brian Thomas costs more than a fourth to move up for ( which means 2-3 spots ) than move on to the next guy … Your moving up 8 spots in the first and getting back a 3rd. I’ve constantly said however Beane has it ranked if there is a large gap in their player rankings at WR such as Thomas than a big gap or whoever their number 5 guy is and 6th guy than make the move. If they have 4-10 ranked somewhat similarly than by all means pick at 28 or move down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Your moving up 8 spots in the first and getting back a 3rd. I’ve constantly said however Beane has it ranked if there is a large gap in their player rankings at WR such as Thomas than a big gap or whoever their number 5 guy is and 6th guy than make the move. If they have 4-10 ranked somewhat similarly than by all means pick at 28 or move down yes .. I can do the maths … Im not saying they aren’t getting value for the move . I don’t think either of us are going to know Beane plans or how they value these guys… I can only offer my opinions and moving up for Thomas expending more draft capital than a fourth is not my preferred option …after comparing him to the 5th and 6th guys who are likely available at the original pick Edited April 16 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 If they’re ok to move off 60 to move up, they should take the bigger swing and include 28,60 and next years 1st and try to get Rome. If they truly believe BTJR is a difference maker then ok. This is some big boy decision making on Bean’s plate this offseason, say what you want about Bean but he’s not gonna go down scared and timid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, julian said: If they’re ok to move off 60 to move up, they should take the bigger swing and include 28,60 and next years 1st and try to get Rome. If they truly believe BTJR is a difference maker then ok. This is some big boy decision making on Bean’s plate this offseason, say what you want about Bean but he’s not gonna go down scared and timid. It’s a two way street … teams don’t necessarily want to move from the Top 10 to 28… or they want more than Beane is prepared to give up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 9 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: It’s a two way street … teams don’t necessarily want to move from the Top 10 to 28… or they want more than Beane is prepared to give up I agree yeah of course, if there’s no takers than so be it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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