Does Beane have a trade with Schoen Lined Up???

[LittleSammy]

I don't have a clue in my simple brain as to what Beane should/will do. He has something up his sleeve. All I know is if we keep the #2 from Houston, I will be praying for Minnesota to hit the bottom next year. A high 30's - low 40's pick in 2025 will keep me happy. In Beane we trust.

[Mr. WEO]

If Schoen is possibly dumb enough not to take a QB in round 1, Beane would certainly know better than most...

[4BillsintheBurgh]

17 hours ago, SCBills said:

Maybe for Pick 47

Yeah, 28 for 47 and 70 if the NYG like a qb or maybe an OT on the board at that time seems more likely.

Edited April 5 by 4BillsintheBurgh

[iccrewman112]

20 hours ago, cbatl32 said:

 Schoen knows he needs a QB but doesn't really have the chance to get one of the top 4 this year without mortgaging the future.  

 

they are at pick six, they don’t have to mortgage the future to move up 2-3 spots. 

[1st&ten]

20 hours ago, Logic said:

 

I'd give up that much draft capital for Malik Nabers in a heartbeat.

We'd still have a pick in the 4th and 5th round this year. Essentially, we'd still have a full slate of draft picks.

Then, next season, we'd still have a pick in the 2nd round, even after trading a 1st and 2nd.

I know its a divisive topic, and many are against the idea of moving up for a WR in a WR-heavy draft. I am not one of those people. Nabers and MHJ and Odunze are worth a big move.

I don't like giving up that many picks. These guys are great college players but you never know how they're going to perform in the Pros. Could turn out to be another Sammy Watkins deal.

[The Wiz]

Feel like it's pretty much not going to happen with NYG. 

 

If they want to replace Jones and a QB is there that they like, they are taking him.

If they don't want to replace Jones and a WR is there that they like, they are taking him.

 

Even if you offered the farm for the pick, all that means is that they get a bunch of picks with no immediate help for the team at QB or WR and Schoen and Daboll are out of a job if they don't produce with the guys that are left.

 

If they stay at the pick and take a QB, that give them a little flexibility for retaining their jobs.  Waiting until next year would be a huge L for them.

 

[Buckets]

On 4/4/2024 at 4:21 PM, cbatl32 said:

I was just thinking about how Beane wouldn't have traded Diggs without a plan in place.  I started thinking that would be very difficult because it's hard to know who will be available even if we traded up to pick 9 with the Bears.  No guarantee that the top 3 WRs would even be still on the board.  But.....what if Beane and Schoen already have a deal for the 6 pick?  If you think about it, Schoen was here when we traded the 10th pick (Mahomes sigh) for the 27th pick and a first the next year.  And we used that to get Josh.  Schoen knows he needs a QB but doesn't really have the chance to get one of the top 4 this year without mortgaging the future.  

 

So what if Schoen is looking to acquire extra ammo for 2025 draft so they can move up next year for their "Josh Allen".  We could package something like this year's first, fourth and fifth, plus our first and Minnesota's second next year.  That would be pretty close in value on the Rich Hill chart.  It would still allow NYG to grab a top WR at 28, pick up some extra picks this year, but then have two 1s and a very high 2 next year to get their QB.

 

Am I crazy for thinking that they may have already discussed/agreed on something like this?  It would basically ensure we get one of Nabors/MHJ/Odunze.

But at pick 6 the top 3 might also be gone. Which makes this post moot.

[Gigs]

On 4/4/2024 at 5:23 PM, Dillenger4 said:

Just stop with the "move up to 6" or even top ten. We have way too many holes to fill and beaner won't waste all our picks for a rookie WR.

 

There were 4 WR's taken in the 1st round last year:

 

900 yards

800yards

600 yards

400 yards.

 

Good numbers, but not trading my whole draft for that. 

If theyre not trading up for Harrison, you can get a more than capable guy at 28 or in the 2nd; the WRs are loaded. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if a ton of 2nd and 3rds go in the top 60. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

I do believe Buffalo is looking for a WR1 on a rookie deal. So that would likely be one of the top three.

[SCBills]

I’m willing to move 28, 60, next years 1st and next year 2nd if that’s gets us Nabers or Odunze.

 

Really conflicted on a trade up for Brian Thomas.

 

Would really like to keep the 2nd we got from Minny via Houston though.  If we invest in WR through the Draft, next year we might not have a 1, but should have a high 2 and cap space to spend for the first time in years. 

 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

At at least half, if not more, 1st round QBs are bust, it is insane to think 4 will go in the top six and they all will be good.

At the same time, a lot WRs drafted later turn out very good to great.

Keep the pick and be better at drafting.

[Nextmanup]

Giving up that much for an elite draft prospect is insane IMO.  You must don't know how any of those guys will play out as pros.

 

If you are going to give up a TON, do what we did when he got DIGGS.....get a guy who has proven exactly who he is at the NFL level but demands a high price.

 

I.E., find a way to get AIYUK, not a draftee.

 

That would be my preference if we are giving up the house.

 

There is no doubt, Beane is not done at WR.  He hasn't even started.

 

 

[<bills4life>]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I’m willing to move 28, 60, next years 1st and next year 2nd if that’s gets us Nabers or Odunze.

 

Really conflicted on a trade up for Brian Thomas.

 

Would really like to keep the 2nd we got from Minny via Houston though.  If we invest in WR through the Draft, next year we might not have a 1, but should have a high 2 and cap space to spend for the first time in years. 

 

I like Nabers the most of any wr.  I wouldn’t  be surprised if he goes before Harrison. 

[3rdand12]

On 4/4/2024 at 9:51 PM, mrags said:

I 100% believe Beane has a plan in place that involves trading our 1st or 2nd next year. If Odunze or Nabors falls to 10 then I could see them making a play there. If not I firmly believe they are prepared to part with a 2nd next year to move into teens for Thomas Jr. Beane didn’t acquire that 2nd next year and plan to not use it this year when they now have a need at WR and in a great WR class. He’s using it to move up his year. Either to move up in the first round or gain a 2nd pick in the second round. Bank on it. 

yea , he has been brewing up something in his Wizards Lair. You can see it manifesting already

I expect the second round might have some very very nice fits indeed. 

 if they can get that for sure (lol) 5 year rookie to take over long term for Diggs ?By trading uphill ?

Well I suspect i will be pretty stoked about that player (WR lol)

But hope Bills can add picks in the second or third without giving away much.

pretty danged  Fun exciting this draft.

 Vikings are pretty Scary exciting , for context

[3rdand12]

6 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Giving up that much for an elite draft prospect is insane IMO.  You must don't know how any of those guys will play out as pros.

 

If you are going to give up a TON, do what we did when he got DIGGS.....get a guy who has proven exactly who he is at the NFL level but demands a high price.

 

I.E., find a way to get AIYUK, not a draftee.

 

That would be my preference if we are giving up the house.

 

There is no doubt, Beane is not done at WR.  He hasn't even started.

 

 

You dont get off your Draft game discipline , unless you need That QB period

Okay maybe Harrison ...

next year Bills should have some decent FA money. This year ! Draft the future but wisely spending draft capital 😇

[Warriorspikes51]

I love Nabers, but him being arrested for carrying a gun is a red flag. Beane would need 100% confidence something like that won’t happen again.  
 

Does MHJ have any red flags? 
 

I’d rather give up an extra 2nd to get up to #4 if we are going way up the board for a top 3 guy

Edited April 7 by Warriorspikes51

[78thealltimegreat]

Watch the Bears a rebuilding team with a rookie QB who doesn’t pick after 9 to pick 75… me thinks business can be done with two number 1s 

[DeepPass]

On 4/4/2024 at 4:56 PM, billsfan89 said:

I don't see McBeane doing a massive trade up for a non-QB, and honestly I don't think trading up for a non-QB is worth it. The NFL draft is a complete crapshoot AND the NFL it's self is very volatile with injuries. You can pick the right players whose fantastic but then he gets seriously hurt and the chances he washes out is a lot higher. In order for the Bills to go from pick 28 to pick 6 it would probably require the Bills to give up picks 28, 60, 128 and a 1st and 3rd in next years draft. That's 5 selections in the first 4 rounds for one player that isn't a QB (as QB's are both franchise changers and can now play for a long period of time they are the only position worth trading up massively for). 

 

If you get Nabers at pick 6 and at a cost of a future 1st, 3rd, and picks 28, 60 and 128 that's 5 good draft picks wrapped up in one single player. If he is a bust or gets hurt you are sinking so much down the drain. Smaller trade ups I am fine with if Brian Thomas Jr falls to the pick 23/24 and they want to trade up I am fine with it. But don't mortgage a lot of two draft classes for a WR. 

I have to agree. Don't give up the draft picks we have for maybe draft choice.  This is a rebuilding year regardless what the media and Bills say.  Losing Diggs, Gabe Davis, Mitch Morris, Poyer, Hyde, Floyd and more tell the story.