PSL Pricing/Seat Selection Discussion

[PromoTheRobot]

14 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

That will never work. Lots of other teams have figured out this "season tickets holders selling tickets to recoup costs" scheme and the Bills will shut it down just like other teams have done.

 

They are your season tickets but you do not have the right to sell them.

 

Home teams are afraid of home games being filled with opposing fans like if the steelers came to town. 

 

Bottom line if you cant afford the tickets then don't buy them.

 

Here is an example of the Colts penalizing their season ticket holders for selling their season tickets 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Just Jack said:

 

The Lions have also revoked season tickets...

 

Detroit Lions offer statement after revoking season tickets from reselling fans - Pride Of Detroit

Those owners can just go eat their tickets when demand falls.

[Einstein]

35 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

Only if you’re strictly measuring in financial return.  A return on investment can also be measured in utility, value, and personal enjoyment.

To use a real property appraisal analogy, if you install an in ground pool in your backyard, is that an investment? Probably not unless there’s mass neighborhood conformity.
BUT, it is an investment in terms of your family’s use, enjoyment; and memories being created. 
Same principle for ‘investing’ in PSls and season tickets. There’s a return from the enjoyment.  

 

Read the 40 posts after that - you’re rehashing an old argument that was thoroughly coveted.

[SoMAn]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Read the 40 posts after that - you’re rehashing an old argument that was thoroughly coveted.

I obviously didn’t read the whole thread. I’m only concerned with responses to my posts. 🙃

[PromoTheRobot]

There is only a slim chance anyone will profit from their PSLs. In fact you'd be fortunate to only take a small loss.

 

These PSLs are the fan's stake in building the stadium. If you think about it, it's more fair than sticking taxpayers with the whole nut.

 

At the time $850MM was considered an obscene amount from taxpayers. Now it's only 38.6% of the cost. PSLs are around 10%. Pegula and the NFL cover just over 50%.

[vanhalen26]

We bought field clubs, 3 rows up right at mid field.  The price stings but we can’t take the $$ to the grave so wtf.  I’m guessing in around 15 years we’ll be selling - based on location if any seats in the section hold

their value, these should.

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 hour ago, vanhalen26 said:

We bought field clubs, 3 rows up right at mid field.  The price stings but we can’t take the $$ to the grave so wtf.  I’m guessing in around 15 years we’ll be selling - based on location if any seats in the section hold

their value, these should.

Is that high enough to see over the players on the sideline ?  Also for the uneducated whats a field club?

Edited 15 hours ago by Mike in Horseheads

[Ballsy]

23 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Only if you’re strictly measuring in financial return.  A return on investment can also be measured in utility, value, and personal enjoyment.

To use a real property appraisal analogy, if you install an in ground pool in your backyard, is that an investment? Probably not unless there’s mass neighborhood conformity.
BUT, it is an investment in terms of your family’s use, enjoyment; and memories being created. 
Same principle for ‘investing’ in PSls and season tickets. There’s a return from the enjoyment.  

By that definition, you could say buying tickets to the movies is an investment, or shopping for clothes is an investment.  I know that my wife likes to call her shoe purchases an investment, but that is only to make her feel better.  An investment is an asset or property acquired to generate income or gain appreciation.  Concert tickets, clothing, and PSLs are generally not investments.  Now, if you are buying PSLs to take clients to games and the clients are generating income, maybe, but if it's just for your enjoyment, probably not an investment.

[PromoTheRobot]

11 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Is that high enough to see over the players on the sideline ?  Also for the uneducated whats a field club?

I thought I read the field is sunk low enough that you can see over players easily. Will the sideline camera get in your way?

 

The field club is just what it says. Seats with club amenities at field level.

Edited 3 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[RiotAct]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I thought I read the field is sunk low enough that you can see over players easily. Will the sideline camera get in your way?

 

The field club is just what it says. Seats with club amenities at field level.

and I believe the main amenities are:

 

— Included food and (non-alcoholic) bevarages 

 

— Dedicated stadium entrance for Field Club ticketholders

 

— Ability to go down to some sort  field level roped-off area and watch the players come out of the tunnel 

 

Can anyone confirm?  Did I miss any?

[vanhalen26]

2 hours ago, RiotAct said:

and I believe the main amenities are:

 

— Included food and (non-alcoholic) bevarages 

 

— Dedicated stadium entrance for Field Club ticketholders

 

— Ability to go down to some sort  field level roped-off area and watch the players come out of the tunnel 

 

Can anyone confirm?  Did I miss any?

That’s pretty much it.  Some of the postgame news conference will be held there as well.  
 

The seats are over a dugout - it’s elevated so people can enter and exit below.  As a result the first row is row 6, and we’d be row 8.  The sales rep said row 1 is higher at the new stadium to comply with nfl rules and offer better sightlines and he estimated our row 8 would be like row 13 at the current, so we should be able to see fine other than the cameras that roll back and forth.  
 

There is a small viewing patio on the field that they give us access to as well, but I don’t think it’ll be worth standing in during a game - that will be too low to see over the players.  But it could be fun for kids during warm ups or post game I guess.