Big Blitz Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Well Cincy isn't trading him to Buffalo. This just means the Bengals take another WR we covet off the board before we pick. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, 947 said: Well Cincy isn't trading him to Buffalo. This just means the Bengals take another WR we covet off the board before we pick. Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 He’s more of a 1B than a 1A. Not sure what kind of trade value he has with that kind of tag. Maybe an ossweiller deal where cincy absorbs big cash for a second/third rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 59 minutes ago, 947 said: Well Cincy isn't trading him to Buffalo. This just means the Bengals take another WR we covet off the board before we pick. 57 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Bingo! Not Bingo though. People get this wrong all the time…the team trading for him was probably a team that was going to draft a WR if they are making a big trade for Higgins, so no it does not change how many WRs could go before our pick unless it’s a team that drafts after us which are teams that either won’t be trading for him or Cincy would never trade him to. So it’s a wash and doesn’t impact how many WRs go ahead of us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Not Bingo though. People get this wrong all the time…the team trading for him was probably a team that was going to draft a WR if they are making a big trade for Higgins, so no it does not change how many WRs could go before our pick unless it’s a team that drafts after us which are teams that either won’t be trading for him or Cincy would never trade him to. So it’s a wash and doesn’t impact how many WRs go ahead of us. Ummm wha???!? The Bengals will take a WR in round 1 now for sure. That's the Bingo, bongo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Dillenger4 said: Ummm wha???!? The Bengals will take a WR in round 1 now for sure. That's the Bingo, bongo. And the team that traded for Higgins now won’t. What part of it being a wash is confusing about that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I did say that the tag decision was an odd one unless it was tag and trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the team that traded for Higgins now won’t. What part of it being a wash is confusing about that? Because we are the team that will/was taking a WR at 28. It's simple math but you seem to not understand. The Bengals pick ahead of us. Correct?? yes. The Bengals (if they keep Higgins) most likely won't pick a WR ahead of us, correct?? yes. If Higgins gets traded the Bengals chances of picking a WR ahead of us goes up, correct??? yes. So let me see... ummm X-1 WR ahead of us... that means there is one less WR available for us at 28 because the ummmm Bengals picked one. There you go. Bingo, Bongo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Remember the Seinfeld episode where Kramer offers a tee shirt as an ‘interesting trade’ for Jerry’s van? Maybe the Bengals would take something like that. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, 947 said: Well Cincy isn't trading him to Buffalo. This just means the Bengals take another WR we covet off the board before we pick. You can’t imagine how long I’ve been thinking about this and how much it pisses me off. Watch them grab someone like Thomas just before us would make me want to fight somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Player in contract negotiations requests trade?! How shocking! This never happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Oh man - Tee Higgins requests trade: TO THE BILLS!!!! Oh wow. get er done Beaner!!! Gonna eat Beans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Because we are the team that will/was taking a WR at 28. It's simple math but you seem to not understand. The Bengals pick ahead of us. Correct?? yes. The Bengals (if they keep Higgins) most likely won't pick a WR ahead of us, correct?? yes. If Higgins gets traded the Bengals chances of picking a WR ahead of us goes up, correct??? yes. So let me see... ummm X-1 WR ahead of us... that means there is one less WR available for us at 28 because the ummmm Bengals picked one. There you go. Bingo, Bongo. a) maybe they do, maybe not. b) wherever he lands no longer needs one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Strictly as a hypothetical, could Bengals and Chiefs do a straight up swap of Higgins and Sneed or would franchise tag rules prohibit that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: You can’t imagine how long I’ve been thinking about this and how much it pisses me off. Watch them grab someone like Thomas just before us would make me want to fight somebody. Me too. I agree 100%. This isn't good. het @Alphadawg... looksy. It's real yo. 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: a) maybe they do, maybe not. b) wherever he lands no longer needs one or wherever he lands stacks up and needs one. You don't sayyyyy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the team that traded for Higgins now won’t. What part of it being a wash is confusing about that? Watch out for KC here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 17 minutes ago, stinky finger said: Watch out for KC here. Watch out for what? There is 0% chance Cincy trades Higgins to KC, the team directly in their way for the SB annually for the next 5-10 years. Same for Baltimore in their own division. Edited March 11 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Because we are the team that will/was taking a WR at 28. It's simple math but you seem to not understand. The Bengals pick ahead of us. Correct?? yes. The Bengals (if they keep Higgins) most likely won't pick a WR ahead of us, correct?? yes. If Higgins gets traded the Bengals chances of picking a WR ahead of us goes up, correct??? yes. So let me see... ummm X-1 WR ahead of us... that means there is one less WR available for us at 28 because the ummmm Bengals picked one. There you go. Bingo, Bongo. Lol...sorry, try again, that isn't Bingo Bongo. You forgot to subtract the team that traded for Higgins from the teams that would have taken a WR before the trade. So +1 teams by adding Cincy, but -1 team that traded for Higgins. 1 - 1 = 0. No change in number of teams ahead of us looking for a WR potentially in the first round. So like I said, its a wash. Only 4 teams draft after us, and 0% chance Cincy trades Higgins to rivals KC or Balt, and 0% chance Niners trade for him, and Detroit highly unlikely to make a big trade on offense when their defense needs so much help and are a favorite to trade for Sneed. If you still don't understand that, then I am not sure what else to tell you. Edited March 11 by Alphadawg7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the team that traded for Higgins now won’t. What part of it being a wash is confusing about that? What if he goes to KC though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: What if he goes to KC though Why do people think this is a thing, he's not going there, he's not coming here, not the Texans, hell probably not even the ***** Jaguars even though they suck even still they're still to close to a step removed from being relevant enough in the conference for if they trade him there it blowing up in their face when they play them in the regular season for playoff seeding and even worse in the actual playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 32 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Why do people think this is a thing, he's not going there, he's not coming here, not the Texans, hell probably not even the ***** Jaguars even though they suck even still they're still to close to a step removed from being relevant enough in the conference for if they trade him there it blowing up in their face when they play them in the regular season for playoff seeding and even worse in the actual playoffs. I wonder what the chiefs cap situation looks like after that jones deal they’ve gotta be pretty close to done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Why do people think this is a thing, he's not going there, he's not coming here, not the Texans, hell probably not even the ***** Jaguars even though they suck even still they're still to close to a step removed from being relevant enough in the conference for if they trade him there it blowing up in their face when they play them in the regular season for playoff seeding and even worse in the actual playoffs. I don’t necessarily think it’s a thing, but trades can tweak draft boards…make teams move up/down, etc. Just saying that the “this ain’t a thing” theory falls apart if he does go to a lower slotted team in the draft. Hypothetically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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