Measles is a 'heat-seeking missile' experts warn as Florida outbreak grows

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I proved your statement that illegals don't live in "affluent suburbs" was stupid, but as for the third grader, if the child did not travel how did they come into contact with the measles? Lack of travel means it was most likely brought in with someone else from somewhere else. It is very likely the initial student with it did not go to a doctor because he was illegal.

you proved wealthy people live in the same communities as poor people.  nothing more.  I proved that the index case was not an immigrant.  as for how he got it, perhaps his unvaxed family had travelled or their friends had.  Anti vax morons tend to stick together in their cult (thank God).  You have no evidence these cases were initiated by illegals yet you persist in making your racist judgment.  I really hope you are a fake teacher like so many other fakes on the MAGA side here.

[The Frankish Reich]

So is there anyone here who DISAGREES with the following proposition:

"Immunization against measles should be required for all children unless that child's parents can show a well-established religious basis (not merely personal belief) for an exemption."

[Orlando Tim]

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

you proved wealthy people live in the same communities as poor people.  nothing more.  I proved that the index case was not an immigrant.  as for how he got it, perhaps his unvaxed family had travelled or their friends had.  Anti vax morons tend to stick together in their cult (thank God).  You have no evidence these cases were initiated by illegals yet you persist in making your racist judgment.  I really hope you are a fake teacher like so many other fakes on the MAGA side here.

I will ask again, if playing the odds, what is the most likely source of the illness to a child who has never traveled?

[Doc]

31 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I will ask again, if playing the odds, what is the most likely source of the illness to a child who has never traveled?

 

It just spontaneously generated, like all the Wuhan variants that hit the country despite Joke doing the opposite of everything Trump did...

[Tenhigh]

4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

So is there anyone here who DISAGREES with the following proposition:

"Immunization against measles should be required for all children unless that child's parents can show a well-established religious basis (not merely personal belief) for an exemption."

I have to imagine that there are medical reasons some kids shouldn't be immunized as well.  

[The Frankish Reich]

19 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

I have to imagine that there are medical reasons some kids shouldn't be immunized as well.  

Yes, that too. So let's add that to the question - "other than demonstrated medical reasons or well-established religious exemptions."

[Tenhigh]

6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yes, that too. So let's add that to the question - "other than demonstrated medical reasons or well-established religious exemptions."

I don't personally disagree with, but I can understand why someone would.  

[T master]

On 3/3/2024 at 7:55 PM, BillStime said:

 

A pandemic plan was in place. Trump abandoned it — and science — in the face of Covid-19

 

Trump spent the past 2 years slashing the government agencies responsible for handling the coronavirus outbreak:

Here are some other actions the Trump administration undertook to dismantle government-spending programs related to fighting the spread of global diseases, according to Foreign Policy:

• In 2018, for instance, the CDC cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. Ultimately, the department went from working in 49 countries to just 10.
• Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council.
• Eliminating the US government's $30 million Complex Crises Fund.
• Reducing national health spending by $15 billion.
• Consistently attacking Mark Green, the director of the US Agency for International Development.
• The CDC is working on a new test to screen for the coronavirus, but according to New York magazine, problems with the test's development resulted in only three out of 100 public-health labs being equipped to screen for the virus. Moreover, each test costs as much as $250, and the Health and Human Services Department is already running out of money to finance an adequate response to the outbreak.

2017 - Senate and House Leaders Raise Concerns About the Impact of President Trump's Decisions on HHS and CDC Preparedness for a Flu Pandemic

 

 

 

Seeing as hind sight is 20/20 and that the biggest part of the population that the virus hurt were the elderly & that young people weren't really hurt in any way by getting the virus not a lot of this bothers me . It bothers me more that our beloved gov't still allows orioles to cause many more deaths from addiction than the pandemic did but that doesn't worry any one just let the legalized killing go on .

 

I'm not saying that the pandemic wasn't something to be concerned about but they lied from the get go about, how it came to be (transfer from animal to human), where it originated (In the wuhan lab), who helped pay for it (US gov't & Fauci helped), how to slow it from spreading (Masks & complete isolation), & then the push for a unsafe vaccine (a jab that had unknown side effects that has been linked to killing some)  .

 

So if the complete unadulterated truth isn't being told then why fund a lie ? Oh wait that's right you believed in the Russia thing scrap all that Sorry BT i forgot who i was talking to ...

[T master]

19 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

In other words, the "clorox thing" is not like the others.

 

In some ways yes ! It does help & i understand it and why it is being used . But why is it when some one speaks metaphorically it is taken literally in like in the case of when the previous POTUS said it .

 

I on the other hand explained in may last reply what i meant & hopefully it is understood if not well i can't help that, but the biggest thing that gets me is most of those that we elect to over see the health & welfare of those that elect them in truth don't give a S**T about us which is why the bad stuff is continually allowed to be produced even while knowing it will cause harm to a majority of the US population .

[Tommy Callahan]

Remember when the left would cut from the white house to this guy lying while killing tens of thousands.  And the Dem puppets cheered him while calling anything else insults.  

 

[SCBills]

Why would Ron DeSantis do this?

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Second measles case confirmed at Chicago migrant shelter

by Kelsey Kernstine

 

CHICAGO — A second case of measles has been reported at a migrant shelter in Chicago, raising concerns about the potential for a larger outbreak due to the high number of unvaccinated asylum-seekers. According to the Chicago Department of Public Health, this is the second case among young children confirmed at a shelter in the city’s Pilsen neighborhood. Health care leaders warn about the risk of widespread outbreaks in migrant shelters, where vaccination rates are low and migrants often sleep in

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health/second-measles-case-chicago-migrant-shelter/

 

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[Tommy Callahan]

 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

On 3/8/2024 at 2:58 PM, SCBills said:

 

I haven't seen anything like this since the Anita Bryant concert.

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 3/10/2024 at 11:07 AM, BillsFanNC said:

 

Let's make April "Achievements of Socialism Month".  Beyond historical accounts of destroying civilization it will be a very quiet month.  The theme, Socialism attracts losers.

[BillStime]

 

[BillsFanNC]

[BillStime]

[BillsFanNC]

[BillsFanNC]

[BillsFanNC]

[Doc]

Illegal bringing diseases into the country. Who would’ve guessed it.

[Doc]

There are now 12 cases of measles in Chicago. All but two are illegals. 

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

There are now 12 cases of measles in Chicago. All but two are illegals. 

 

 

It's Ron Desantis's fault.

 

 

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[Doc]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

It's Ron Desantis's fault.

Of course. Even though the last I heard is there were 10 cases in the entire state of Florida, versus 12 in Chicago alone…

[Wacka]

Before the vaccine, basically everyone got it.  If you didn't et it this year, you likelyl will get it next year. Neve he'd of none dying from it back then.

[BillsFanNC]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

Before the vaccine, basically everyone got it.  If you didn't et it this year, you likelyl will get it next year. Neve he'd of none dying from it back then.

And you have a Ph.D. in what?

[BillStime]

I love how these idiots are making the case for vaccines and don't even realize it - lmao

 

 

[Wacka]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And you have a Ph.D. in what?

Molecular Biology.

And what I said was from personal experience. I had measles in 1st grade (63-6). Hd rubella (then called the German measles) the next year. As  I said, the teacher, would go down the aisle every morning and  pull your clothes back to look down your  back for the measles. If she saw it, off to the nurse and home for a week. 

 

And contrary to what  cpu gen ?ers believe , us guys swam in the nude from 6th-12th grade,

 

 

 

[BillStime]

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, Wacka said:

And what I said was from personal experience.

That's what a scientist would call anecdata.

 

As opposed to actual Data:

 

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/189/Supplement_1/S1/820569

 

Measles wasn't particularly deadly on a per-infection basis, but about 1 death per 1,000 cases ain't nuthin. Even with the much lower population of your youth that amounted to about 450 deaths in the immediate pre-vaccine years. And there were health impacts beyond measles itself, making it a drain on health care resources.

 

[B-Man]

LOL.

 

 

Media Malpractice: The Press Held a Pandemic In Florida, but They Never Got an RSVP From the Virus

By Brad Slager

 

If you have heard about an outbreak of a contagion in Florida this month I feel it is necessary to cover what is happening. Since I am located in South Florida it is incumbent upon me to deliver up-to-the-minute dispatches from here, in the Hot Zone. It is the least I can do since - unlike those reporting on this danger - I am actually here, and thus I can file this field report: Just what in the hell are they screaming about?!

 

Many people talk about how upside-down things are in this country in 2024, and a recent episode in the press shows this to be the case. For decades now Florida has been regarded as something of a psych ward waiting room, but today the state is a national leader with the enviable Governor Ron DeSantis and people streaming across the state lines with U-Hauls and renewed hope. Meanwhile, we look outward and see a media industry losing their collective minds over the Sunshine State, as we sit back and wonder from where they are getting their information.

 

In just the latest example of this, I have been looking over the press coverage of conditions in my home, and I marvel at what journalists in New York, Washington, and Los Angeles tell me is happening here. It appears the practice of actually speaking to people in the region you are covering is a foreign concept regarding domestic issues.

 

We will start with the Washington Post, where disgraced (and thus revered in the press) Doctor Leana Wen covers an outbreak of measles in Florida. She calls this a “devastating” event and proceeds to scorch the state Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo for dropping the ball and permitting this outbreak to fester. NBC News very calmly and rationally described Florida’s outbreak as “A Heat Seeking Missile.” The Guardian was no more reserved, saying Florida “Is Swamped By Disease Outbreaks” (there had been only one), and described Ladapo as practicing “quackery.”

 

Then there was this editorial from a local outlet, once regarded as a vital news organ in South Florida. The Miami Herald column featured three doctors, intoning all of the warnings of this virus and what it could lead to, all while slamming the response by state officials. 

 

Florida leaders are largely ignoring the measles outbreak, with calls for Florida surgeon general’s resignation over inaction towards measles. Meanwhile, waiting for the CDC to recover its professional voice is not an option. It is imperative that state and local officials, and healthcare professionals, take immediate action to stop measles.

 

There was plenty of hysteria and cautionary scenarios offered, but this editorial lacked something that has been missing from most of the other pieces featured – current statistics. There was plenty of warning of what this could all lead to and promises of doom for the lack of activity, but how many cases are we dealing with and what can we expect from it all?!?!?

 

Nine.

 

That is the totality of the measles cases in the state. Nine. Additionally, there have been no more than those reported to this point, no more than the number which I cannot stress enough - NINE! And while this is a glaringly small figure, against all of the screaming of doom and castigating of health officials in the state, by looking into things those media reports become all the more irresponsible and completely unacceptable.

 

Of those nine measles cases, none saw the infected requiring hospitalizations. And of those nine, all were located in Broward County, with most of the cases found in one school. There have been no further reports of measles anywhere else in the state, so this alleged outbreak of “devastating” proportions was in fact contained, and the “tragedy” saw no one adversely affected.

 

{snip}

 

Much like we had been exposed to during the COVID pandemic, the media are infected with bias, as they dispense advice and reporting afflicted with partisan approaches to stories. What we are in desperate need of is an outbreak of journalism to take place in the press.

 

https://redstate.com/bradslager/2024/03/15/media-malpractice-the-press-held-a-pandemic-in-florida-but-they-never-got-an-rsvp-from-the-virus-n2171429

[Doc]

Looks like the “missile” found more heat elsewhere…

[BillStime]

 

[SCBills]

 

[Doc]

17 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

So from 12 not even 2 weeks ago to 31 as of Tuesday?  In Chicago and not the entire state of Illinois?  And not a peep about it?

[Orlando Tim]

On 3/15/2024 at 12:13 PM, BillStime said:

I love how these idiots are making the case for vaccines and don't even realize it - lmao

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/06/us/california-measles-vaccines-map.html

 

Before COVID conservatives were the ones who believed in vaccines, while liberals, especially in places life California, fought against the mandates. Now you equate a shot that protects you for 6 weeks with unknown side effects with a vaccine that has 4 decades of information. You truly are gullible