First to third round picks used on every position for every NFL team (past 5 years)

[Einstein]

 

 

Edited February 13 by Einstein

[hondo in seattle]

The Bills' goose egg for WR stands out.

 

When you've got a good gun, wouldn't you want to buy ammunition?  

[Chicken Boo]

5 years and not one 1st-3rd round pick on a wideout is strange.  

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

The Bills' goose egg for WR stands out.

 

When you've got a good gun, wouldn't you want to buy ammunition?  

Zero WR's.  Jesus. KC 3, SF 4.

1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:

5 years and not one 1st-3rd round pick on a wideout is strange.  

Not when McDermott is your HC.  

[LABILLBACKER]

Anyone who thinks McDermott didn't have majority share in draft decisions is naive.  Anyone who thought McDermott would supplement Diggs with more drafted wrs is naive. Sean was always going to emphasize D.  It's who he is. Just keep telling Superman to save the day.

[GunnerBill]

It goes back further. Buffalo and Tampa have both gone since 2017 without drafting a day 1 or 2 wide receiver. 

 

It is ridiculous. And Beane should be held to account for it.

[Warriorspikes51]

It’s time to make that WR count 2.  
 

Surrounding Allen with weapons on rookie contracts gives us a great chance.

 

if Kincaid can become some version of “Kelce lite” this season and you add a couple dynamic WR’s to go with Shakir who has become an extremely dependable target with some nice YAC

 

we’re in good shape!!

Edited February 13 by Warriorspikes51

[Billl]

11 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

The Bills' goose egg for WR stands out.

 

When you've got a good gun, wouldn't you want to buy ammunition?  

They gave up a first rounder and then some for Diggs, and Kincaid is basically a slot receiver.

Edited February 13 by Billl

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Anyone who thinks McDermott didn't have majority share in draft decisions is naive.  Anyone who thought McDermott would supplement Diggs with more drafted wrs is naive. Sean was always going to emphasize D.  It's who he is. Just keep telling Superman to save the day.

Out of curiosity give me your 1s-3rd round WR draft picks from 2020-2023.

[Kaenon]

18 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

5 years and not one 1st-3rd round pick on a wideout is strange.  

We did trade a 1st for Diggs though, so we spent a 1st on a WR

[Prospector]

I say we draft Limas Sweed, Malcom Kelly, and James Hardy with our 1st 3 picks

[JimBob2232]

A little misleading as technically we traded a first for Diggs.  

 

But the bigger alarm is three RBs.   I had to look to validate that.  I remember cook, but forgot Singletary and moss were in there as 3rd rounders.  Big difference if one of them was a productive WR, LB or DB last year.

 

But I cant fault Beane/McDermott here.  Drafting has been top notch.  Sure we wish we could hit MORE - but I'd venture to say our hit rate is in the top tier.

 

It's pretty incredible actually the late round "Hits".  Gabe Davis, Benford, Spector, Teller, Shakir, Hamlin, Hodgins, Dane, Teller, McCloud, Neal.... Really the only bad recent misses are Elam, Basham, and Moss.

 

You cant hit them all....but I think our hit rate is pretty damn good.

[Don Otreply]

It’s really sad to look at this, McDermott and Beane really need to change things up, it’s been five years of our defense first thought process  failing in the clutch moments in the post season, let’s all email blast OBD every week up to the draft, thousands  of emails and billboards as well, let’s put some pressure on these guys, Go Bills Mafia, get a go fund me going, getter done  😂😁🤣 

 

does anyone think either of those guys think about a different draft strategy?  I don’t think they ever do…,

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Tenhigh]

45 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

It goes back further. Buffalo and Tampa have both gone since 2017 without drafting a day 1 or 2 wide receiver. 

 

It is ridiculous. And Beane should be held to account for it.

I mean the Diggs trade is essenrially a round 1 WR pick, but I generally agree that with the sentiment.

[Tenhigh]

25 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said:

A little misleading as technically we traded a first for Diggs.  

 

But the bigger alarm is three RBs.   I had to look to validate that.  I remember cook, but forgot Singletary and moss were in there as 3rd rounders.  Big difference if one of them was a productive WR, LB or DB last year.

 

But I cant fault Beane/McDermott here.  Drafting has been top notch.  Sure we wish we could hit MORE - but I'd venture to say our hit rate is in the top tier.

 

It's pretty incredible actually the late round "Hits".  Gabe Davis, Benford, Spector, Teller, Shakir, Hamlin, Hodgins, Dane, Teller, McCloud, Neal.... Really the only bad recent misses are Elam, Basham, and Moss.

 

You cant hit them all....but I think our hit rate is pretty damn good.

Maybe we should trade all of our 1-3rd rounders to get the entire 5th round, Beane is a wizard!

[GASabresIUFan]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

The Bills' goose egg for WR stands out.

 

When you've got a good gun, wouldn't you want to buy ammunition?  

The 1 CB/S also stands out especially because the kid is a bust.  The 4 DL also stands out considering we only have two of the four on the roster.  

[Maine-iac]

Baltimore and Indy out there proving you need to take WR's early and often.  Passing powerhouses.  

[HardyBoy]

45 minutes ago, Prospector said:

I say we draft Limas Sweed, Malcom Kelly, and James Hardy with our 1st 3 picks

 

I was so excited for Hardy, just unfortunate all around

[HardyBoy]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

It goes back further. Buffalo and Tampa have both gone since 2017 without drafting a day 1 or 2 wide receiver. 

 

It is ridiculous. And Beane should be held to account for it.

 

What are your thoughts on the team building strategy of finding value (not necessarily cheap) veteran wrs on one year deals instead of drafting if you are concerned you don't have the cap to sign them longterm? 

 

Thinking about production curves, you're probably going to be getting more production from the veteran during their rookie season and I would think equal production from the next season's veteran as the then 2nd year draft pick.

 

Is the real problem (at least for that strategy) the over complicated offense, especially at the receiver position? Or maybe is that why beane isn't drafting a receiver? (My guess is he's not drafting one because of below, but the one's he's bringing in are not thriving because it's overly complex...Beasley is a football genius and John Brown succeeded when Allen was doing a lot of half field reads, though the offense might have gotten really complex by 2020, though guessing that was more in 2021 and onward)

 

Is there more value in drafting an upside lb that you think you can turn into a top 10 lb and see Bernard level production from them over years 2-4 of their rookie deal vs drafting a wr and having them not really add significant value over a potential one year deal veteran until the third year of their rookie deal and then you need to make a decision on getting a value extension or a fifth year option on just that one year of performance growth? Since so many receivers seem to have more of an exponential growth curve that doesn't start to really spike until year three (per the general talk people who probably know nothing about what they're actually saying...like me...about wr development, which is why I'm asking you)

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

 

What are your thoughts on the team building strategy of finding value (not necessarily cheap) veteran wrs on one year deals instead of drafting if you are concerned you don't have the cap to sign them longterm? 

 

Thinking about production curves, you're probably going to be getting more production from the veteran during their rookie season and I would think equal production from the next season's veteran as the then 2nd year draft pick.

 

Is the real problem (at least for that strategy) the over complicated offense, especially at the receiver position? Or maybe is that why beane isn't drafting a receiver? (My guess is he's not drafting one because of below, but the one's he's bringing in are not thriving because it's overly complex...Beasley is a football genius and John Brown succeeded when Allen was doing a lot of half field reads, though the offense might have gotten really complex by 2020, though guessing that was more in 2021 and onward)

 

Is there more value in drafting an upside lb that you think you can turn into a top 10 lb and see Bernard level production from them over years 2-4 of their rookie deal vs drafting a wr and having them not really add significant value over a potential one year deal veteran until the third year of their rookie deal and then you need to make a decision on getting a value extension or a fifth year option on just that one year of performance growth? Since so many receivers seem to have more of an exponential growth curve that doesn't start to really spike until year three (per the general talk people who probably know nothing about what they're actually saying...like me...about wr development, which is why I'm asking you)

 

Some interesting food for thought. The complexity of the offense is definitely a consideration. Gabe had production as a rookie though even if he wasn't an every down player. 

 

They obviously think it is a comparative value thing. But as I said before this is consistent with how and where Beane was brought up in this business. Carolina did not draft receivers early very often in his time there. They drafted DL, LB and RB earlier that most other teams. Beane is following that trend here.