John from Riverside Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Doc said: Is "isolationist" the latest focus group word? Or does it have another meaning? Because Trump wasn't one. The ***** he wasn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The ***** he wasn’t In what way? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Doc said: Is "isolationist" the latest focus group word? Or does it have another meaning? Because Trump wasn't one. Anyone that might disagree with intervention without any clear and defined national interest while using reason or logic in evaluating the consistent failures of US interventionist policy is an isolationist. The problem with the interventionists is they can't read the scorecard. They've lost every game on their schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: Is "isolationist" the latest focus group word? Or does it have another meaning? Because Trump wasn't one. https://www.npr.org/2024/02/18/1232263785/generations-after-its-heyday-isolationism-is-alive-and-kicking-up-controversy "Trump had stoked the discussion earlier this month when he told a rally in Conway, S.C., that he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell they want" to any NATO country he regarded as delinquent in its payments to the alliance. Disavowing mutual defense Beyond misrepresenting the way NATO is financed, Trump was disavowing the central purpose of the mutual defense pact. Article 5 of the 1949 treatystates that an attack on one member will be considered an attack on all." Edited February 20 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: https://www.npr.org/2024/02/18/1232263785/generations-after-its-heyday-isolationism-is-alive-and-kicking-up-controversy "Trump had stoked the discussion earlier this month when he told a rally in Conway, S.C., that he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell they want" to any NATO country he regarded as delinquent in its payments to the alliance. Disavowing mutual defense Beyond misrepresenting the way NATO is financed, Trump was disavowing the central purpose of the mutual defense pact. Article 5 of the 1949 treatystates that an attack on one member will be considered an attack on all." So yes, the latest focus group word. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, Doc said: So yes, the latest focus group word. no. an apt word to describe trump's consistently negative (and getting worse)stance on NATO Edited February 20 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: no. an apt word to describe trump's consistently negative (and getting worse)stance on NATO If you mean he wants to isolate countries who don't pay their fair share into NATO... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Doc said: If you mean he wants to isolate countries who don't pay their fair share into NATO... Article 5 is a bedrock principle of NATO. He wants to blow it up. Make it meaningless. Do you know the last time article 5 was used? Hint: it was to protect the US. Article 5 provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked. Edited February 20 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Was this on CNN? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Trump is as bad at killing NATO as he was at leading an insurrection... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Doc said: Trump is as bad at killing NATO as he was at leading an insurrection... But he's a crafty fellow that made his fortune by understanding and using the systems currently in place that the leftists charge he wants to destroy as we watch them destroying our society and culture before he gets his chance. Edited February 21 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: understanding and using the systems currently in place nope. He made it by fraud , lying and cheating which is why he's been indicted more than 90 times. He doesn't "use" the system. He breaks the rules consistently and then uses mobster tactics to avoid prosecution. He also has been bankrupted multiple times despite inheriting a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 🎯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 44 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: nope. He made it by fraud , lying and cheating which is why he's been indicted more than 90 times. He doesn't "use" the system. He breaks the rules consistently and then uses mobster tactics to avoid prosecution. He also has been bankrupted multiple times despite inheriting a fortune. Please respond to Stoltenbergs comment on the issue, or is he another Putin puppet too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Please respond to Stoltenbergs comment on the issue, or is he another Putin puppet too? Who? Ah, the commander of NATO. Name now known due to trump's comments. So I think it's good more countries are going to ante up. Threatening to destroy and disregard Article 5 is not the way to accomplish it. And I'm confident trump will follow up on his threat. Edited February 21 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Who? NATO Chief Jens Stoltenberg. I believe he puts this false narrative (lie) to rest. Edited February 21 by wnyguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Who? Ah, the commander of NATO. Name now known due to trump's comments. So I think it's good more countries are going to ante up. Threatening to destroy and disregard Article 5 is not the way to accomplish it. And I'm confident trump will follow up on his threat. It worked, didn't it? Whereas before it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 22 minutes ago, Doc said: It worked, didn't it? Whereas before it wasn't. Well it worked , sure, fine and dandy but still, Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Hey look, yet another useful idiot Russia hoax thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/20/2024 at 2:12 PM, John from Riverside said: This is America We are a country built from immigrants. I don’t need any isolationist racist president in the oval office. Thank you very much. I don’t need a president that bellies up to dictators and trashes his own people to agree with them love letters to dictators not needed I don’t need a president that uses the office power to try to remain president I don’t need a president that preaches hate As far as policy goes, Trump really didn’t have a lot of policy other than enriching himself As I figured. I like you, John, but I am not sure how to communicate with you on this side of the board. Biden is arguably the most racist president since LBJ, and has spent a career enriching himself and his family under the guise of public service. Trump is also certainly a garbage person, but I think his "remain in Mexico" policy is the right way to handle illegal immigration at the southern border. If you disagree, what is your alternative solution? Or are you proposing we leave the border fully open full time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/20/2024 at 2:21 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: Covid response and dishonesty to Americans about its existence? Capitulation to dictators. Attacking American foundations such as elections and the press. Sanctioning the murder of Kashogi. Weakening the FBI, CIA, DEA, CDC. Installing scotus judges who lied about Roe before congress. Weakening environmental laws and ignoring global warming, giving a huge tax break to the 1% , failing to improve heath care, failing to improve immigration. And the biggest one: being a stinking ####### and subhuman lying, cheat - the big lie. Lol, this is the opposite of John's post, except for the TDS. Where do you want to begin? Do you mind if I start a separate thread using your post as a basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Useful. Idiots. Community notes again for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Lol, this is the opposite of John's post, except for the TDS. Where do you want to begin? Do you mind if I start a separate thread using your post as a basis? It's not TDS. It's real. TDS is a dog whistle for tone deaf MAGAs. Edited February 23 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Useful. Idiots. Community notes again for the win. 👆 🤡 Still fellating the most corrupt POTUS in our lifetime. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: 👆 🤡 Still fellating the most corrupt POTUS in our lifetime. Pathetic. Waaahhhhhh, waaahhhhhh...pathetic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/20/2024 at 4:16 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: no. an apt word to describe trump's consistently negative (and getting worse)stance on NATO You purposefully left out the complete statement. Once again picking and choosing which words to put together to make your agenda seem true. Yet you just lie and lie and lie. Well done “Dr” 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It's not TDS. It's real. TDS is a dog whistle for tone deaf MAGAs. Make no mistake, TDS is real. It causes otherwise normal people to not be able to communicate and sometimes behave rationally when anything even tangentially Trump related comes up. Family not speaking over politics, impeachment talk before he even got into office, you name it. Much of it is brought on by Trump himself, but it's a real mental illness. It's really weird from my perspective. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 The bigger issue is NATO itself. It was militarily dysfunctional, relying completely on the US for any real capability. Hopefully, with the Germans come to Jesus moment as the Russians invaded Ukraine and they realized they were totally dependent on Russia for energy, as well as being completely depleted militarily, things will get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, phypon said: Waaahhhhhh, waaahhhhhh...pathetic Violence with a golf ball. i guess to MAGAs it brings a false air of respectability to their thug tactics. make no mistake. many are violent anarchists set on revolution. Steve Bannon cheered on the "revolutionaries" yesterday at CPAC using the world multiple times. Why does the greatest country in the world need a revolution? Because a bunch of unskilled, unvalued white guys feel left behind. btw, getting hit by a golf ball hurts like hell. And omg, he's so fat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Violence with a golf ball. i guess to MAGAs it brings a false air of respectability to their thug tactics. make no mistake. many are violent anarchists set on revolution. Steve Bannon cheered on the "revolutionaries" yesterday at CPAC using the world multiple times. Why does the greatest country in the world need a revolution? Because a bunch of unskilled, unvalued white guys feel left behind. btw, getting hit by a golf ball hurts like hell. And omg, he's so fat... Oh yeah, dude. Memes and gifs are totally deadly, lol. Hey, you should watch it on repeat, it's the only time you'll actually see what balls are! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, phypon said: Oh yeah, dude. Memes and gifs are totally deadly, lol. Hey, you should watch it on repeat, it's the only time you'll actually see what balls are! I can only dream of being as clever as you are. scumbag maga's like NC spend hours and hours making and posting propaganda memes. Why bother.? cuz they work on stupid people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I can only dream of being as clever as you are. scumbag maga's like billstime spend hours and hours making and posting propaganda memes. Why bother.? cuz they work on stupid people... FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, Westside said: FIFY yeah, can't say I'm a fan of pol memes. however, many of his links are enlightening and lead to exploration of more trusted sources on the issue in question. NC's post virtually never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I can only dream of being as clever as you are. scumbag maga's like NC spend hours and hours making and posting propaganda memes. Why bother.? cuz they work on stupid people... Yes, we all know that you are clearly not clever. You should use that Google AI thingy and look up "balls". We all still have hope for you that you have the ability to learn something in your life. Actually, everyone knows that's not possible and it's just people pitying you. You suck at life, good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, phypon said: You suck at life, good luck!! and you have what evidence to make this statement? What are you doing today? I'm in Nashville with my wife hitting the town for a long weekend and a sold out show tonight. periodic city fix from living in the woods. it doesn't suck...keep up your attempts at cleverness. and by all means, be a revolutionary. it'll likely make your life suck even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: and you have what evidence to make this statement? What are you doing today? I'm in Nashville with my wife hitting the town for a long weekend and a sold out show tonight. periodic city fix from living in the woods. it doesn't suck...keep up your attempts at cleverness. and by all means, be a revolutionary. it'll likely make your life suck even worse. Hey, good for you man. Have fun at the Taylor Swift show. All joking aside, have a good night with your wife and your show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It's not TDS. It's real. TDS is a dog whistle for tone deaf MAGAs. maga is a dogwhistle LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Violence with a golf ball. i guess to MAGAs it brings a false air of respectability to their thug tactics. make no mistake. many are violent anarchists set on revolution. Steve Bannon cheered on the "revolutionaries" yesterday at CPAC using the world multiple times. Why does the greatest country in the world need a revolution? Because a bunch of unskilled, unvalued white guys feel left behind. btw, getting hit by a golf ball hurts like hell. And omg, he's so fat... Keep grinding that ax......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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