jkeerie Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Okay. The SB is over. The Chiefs won...again. It's ground hog day. I suggest we stop torturing ourselves with what could have been in 2023. So let's discuss where the Bills team goes moving forward. We know the GM we know the coaching staff. We know many of the players. We know we'll have 10 draft picks. So...realistically...what players do we restructure? What players do we re-sign? What players do we extend? What players do we cut ties with? What free agents would you like to see the Bills sign knowing we won't be able to afford top line FAs? Deal with the knowns. This is not a thread for wishful thinking (regarding coaches etc). We are moving forward. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1st is seeing what cuts, trades and restructuring is done to get under the cap. We are just over a month away from needing to be under at the start of FA / the new NFL year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 That's what I'm asking. What moves would you make along those lines? Likely they'll restructure Josh. Who else would you restructure? Who would you cut? I'm trying to garner thoughts so we can move on from the Book of Lamentations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I'm trying to figure out how to use my time better, and yet here I am at 6 AM in the morning, posting on TBD. Help! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 The offseason is pretty simple to me offensively get Josh two more WRs and maybe another olineman. The defense back seven seems to be just a health issue but in order we need a safety to replace Hyde and we need help on the defensive line mainly DT. Kicker as it showed in this game is major concern as Tyler didn’t have his best year…he’s one of the top paid kickers in the league but he missed some makable kicks see KC. Take nothing away from 49ers or Ravens but the Super Bowl was played a few weeks back in high mark stadium. The AFC will be even tougher next year but we are just as good as anyone. Onward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Gone from last year squad: * Hyde, Poyer, White, Jackson * Rapp, Hamlin, * Matkevich, * Floyd, Epenesa, Ford, Jones, Lawson, * Harty, Sherfield, Davis * Murray * Morse It is the defense once again that is garbage and needs to be retooled yet again. Unfortunately, they cannot get rid of MIller(and his big contract) and hence they will have to give up White (and his big contract). 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: The offseason is pretty simple to me offensively get Josh two more WRs and maybe another olineman. The defense back seven seems to be just a health issue but in order we need a safety to replace Hyde and we need help on the defensive line mainly DT. Kicker as it showed in this game is major concern as Tyler didn’t have his best year…he’s one of the top paid kickers in the league but he missed some makable kicks see KC. Take nothing away from 49ers or Ravens but the Super Bowl was played a few weeks back in high mark stadium. The AFC will be even tougher next year but we are just as good as anyone. Onward. The Bills backups are average to below average. We need better talent for them to step up and not miss a beat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 offseason starts the moment the Bills have no more games to play. In other words 3 weeks ago 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Not good when 75% of your D-Line are free agents, and you have no real money to spend to keep at least a couple of them. Beane's been a great GM, but his misses on his D-Line picks are coming back to haunt them. The Miller contract is atrocious. Let's face it, if Miller does not come back and play at least decently (Maybe 6-8 sacks) the Bills are going to have problems. Odd that the Bills are $50M over the cap, and the Chiefs are $24M under. $75M difference. Not optimal. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 30 minutes ago, ganesh said: Gone from last year squad: * Hyde, Poyer, White, Jackson * Rapp, Hamlin, * Matkevich, * Floyd, Epenesa, Ford, Jones, Lawson, * Harty, Sherfield, Davis * Murray * Morse It is the defense once again that is garbage and needs to be retooled yet again. Unfortunately, they cannot get rid of MIller(and his big contract) and hence they will have to give up White (and his big contract). The Bills backups are average to below average. We need better talent for them to step up and not miss a beat. I don't think Morse and Poyer are gone. Think they'll be here 1 more year 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 50 minutes ago, ganesh said: Gone from last year squad: * Hyde, Poyer, White, Jackson * Rapp, Hamlin, * Matkevich, * Floyd, Epenesa, Ford, Jones, Lawson, * Harty, Sherfield, Davis * Murray * Morse It is the defense once again that is garbage and needs to be retooled yet again. Unfortunately, they cannot get rid of MIller(and his big contract) and hence they will have to give up White (and his big contract). The Bills backups are average to below average. We need better talent for them to step up and not miss a beat. None of these players really move the needle for me other than Jones. Even when the defense was healthy they weren’t exactly stopping offenses with a pulse best to get younger on that side of the ball anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 32 minutes ago, RG Murdock said: Not good when 75% of your D-Line are free agents, and you have no real money to spend to keep at least a couple of them. Beane's been a great GM, but his misses on his D-Line picks are coming back to haunt them. The Miller contract is atrocious. Let's face it, if Miller does not come back and play at least decently (Maybe 6-8 sacks) the Bills are going to have problems. Odd that the Bills are $50M over the cap, and the Chiefs are $24M under. $75M difference. Not optimal. Definitely going to be some changes this offseason especially on the defensive side of the ball. They need to get younger and as you mentioned it's going to be hard to resign some of them because of the cap. I believe we have 10 picks in this draft. Beane really needs to hit a HR here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 39 minutes ago, RG Murdock said: Not good when 75% of your D-Line are free agents, and you have no real money to spend to keep at least a couple of them. Beane's been a great GM, but his misses on his D-Line picks are coming back to haunt them. The Miller contract is atrocious. Let's face it, if Miller does not come back and play at least decently (Maybe 6-8 sacks) the Bills are going to have problems. Odd that the Bills are $50M over the cap, and the Chiefs are $24M under. $75M difference. Not optimal. Bills have 58 players under contract. The Chiefs 43...not including Jones and Snead. Yes...the Bills are in worse shape but the Chiefs don't have a boatload of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Defensive stats: No. 2 - TDs allowed No. 4 - INTs No. 4 - Sacks No. 4 - Point differential No. 8 - Yds/att No. 9 - Fumble recoveries Biggest loss differential - 6 points We are top 10 in almost every defensive category, despite the rash of injuries. Visually, the defense had the look - aggressive and smart. How McD had this unit playing as well as it did with these massive injuries is nothing short of amazing IMO. People calling the defense "garbage" and other vapid names have a poor take and that's saying it lightly. 2 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Beane needs to make some major moves starting with free agency and trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 10 hours ago, jkeerie said: That's what I'm asking. What moves would you make along those lines? Likely they'll restructure Josh. Who else would you restructure? Who would you cut? I'm trying to garner thoughts so we can move on from the Book of Lamentations. Cut Mitch Morse & Tre'Davious White, unless they agree to take pay cuts. Get Von Miller to take a pay cut. Restructure contracts of Josh Allen & Dawson Knox. Give contract extensions to Dion Dawkins, Rasul Douglas & Taron Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Cut Mitch Morse & Tre'Davious White, unless they agree to take pay cuts. Get Von Miller to take a pay cut. Restructure contracts of Josh Allen & Dawson Knox. Give contract extensions to Dion Dawkins, Rasul Douglas & Taron Johnson. Von needs to be on a deal that is mostly incentives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Von needs to be on a deal that is mostly incentives Nice thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Unlikely, but you gotta get rid of Von and Diggs with those contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Realistically? Re-sign: Daquan Jones AJ Epenesa Ty Johnson David Edwards Shaq Lawson Cut: Tre White Deonte Harty Draft: Two Wide Receivers in Rounds 1-4 Use the rest of the picks on Defense (DT, DT, S, S, CB, CB, LB) Restructure: Allen Extension: Dawkins Douglas Johnson Going to need to absolutely crush this Draft If we're allowed to dream.. Trade Diggs. Somehow, someway. I'd even be willing to lose a player or two to make this happen due to his cap acceleration. This team around Allen doesn't step up in the playoffs, and while Kelce is ol' reliable for Mahomes, Diggs has been the opposite of that for Allen. Rip the band-aid off and move on. Kincaid, Shakir, Knox and Cook can hold it down while we get some high draft picks at WR going as the season progresses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Just in Atlanta said: Defensive stats: No. 2 - TDs allowed No. 4 - INTs No. 4 - Sacks No. 4 - Point differential No. 8 - Yds/att No. 9 - Fumble recoveries Biggest loss differential - 6 points We are top 10 in almost every defensive category, despite the rash of injuries. Visually, the defense had the look - aggressive and smart. How McD had this unit playing as well as it did with these massive injuries is nothing short of amazing IMO. People calling the defense "garbage" and other vapid names have a poor take and that's saying it lightly. People keep talking about this: we lost 1 guy? We lost Milano. We upgraded Tre White with Rasul Douglass. We didnt have "massive injuries" In the play offs we were banged up but in the regular season (which is where those stats come from) there was 1 injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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