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Okay.  The SB is over.  The Chiefs won...again.  It's ground hog day.  I suggest we stop torturing ourselves with what could have been in 2023.  So let's discuss where the Bills team goes moving forward.

We know the GM we know the coaching staff.  We know many of the players.  We know we'll have 10 draft picks.

 

So...realistically...what players do we restructure?  What players do we re-sign?  What players do we extend?  What players do we cut ties with? 

 

What free agents would you like to see the Bills sign knowing we won't be able to afford top line FAs?

 

Deal with the knowns.  This is not a thread for wishful thinking (regarding coaches etc).

 

We are moving forward.   

 

 

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That's what I'm asking.  What moves would you make along those lines?  Likely they'll restructure Josh.  Who else would you restructure?  Who would you cut?  I'm trying to garner thoughts so we can move on from the Book of Lamentations.

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The offseason is pretty simple to me offensively get Josh two more WRs and maybe another olineman.

 

The defense back seven seems to be just a health issue but in order we need a safety to replace Hyde and we need help on the defensive line mainly DT.
 

Kicker as it showed in this game is major concern as Tyler didn’t have his best year…he’s one of the top paid kickers in the league but he missed some makable kicks see KC.

 

Take nothing away from 49ers or Ravens but the Super Bowl was played a few weeks back in high mark stadium.

The AFC will be even tougher next year but we are just as good as anyone. Onward.

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Gone from last year squad:

* Hyde, Poyer, White,  Jackson

* Rapp, Hamlin, 

* Matkevich, 

* Floyd, Epenesa, Ford, Jones, Lawson,

 

* Harty, Sherfield, Davis

* Murray

* Morse

 

It is the defense once again that is garbage and needs to be retooled yet again.  Unfortunately, they cannot get rid of MIller(and his big contract) and hence they will have to give up White (and his big contract).

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

The offseason is pretty simple to me offensively get Josh two more WRs and maybe another olineman.

 

The defense back seven seems to be just a health issue but in order we need a safety to replace Hyde and we need help on the defensive line mainly DT.
 

Kicker as it showed in this game is major concern as Tyler didn’t have his best year…he’s one of the top paid kickers in the league but he missed some makable kicks see KC.

 

Take nothing away from 49ers or Ravens but the Super Bowl was played a few weeks back in high mark stadium.

The AFC will be even tougher next year but we are just as good as anyone. Onward.

The Bills backups are average to below average. We need better talent for them to step up and not miss a beat.

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Not good when 75% of your D-Line are free agents, and you have no real money to spend to keep at least a couple of them. Beane's been a great GM, but his misses on his D-Line picks are coming back to haunt them. The Miller contract is atrocious. Let's face it, if Miller does not come back and play at least decently (Maybe 6-8 sacks) the Bills are going to have problems. Odd that the Bills are $50M over the cap, and the Chiefs are $24M under. $75M difference. Not optimal.  

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30 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Gone from last year squad:

* Hyde, Poyer, White,  Jackson

* Rapp, Hamlin, 

* Matkevich, 

* Floyd, Epenesa, Ford, Jones, Lawson,

 

* Harty, Sherfield, Davis

* Murray

* Morse

 

It is the defense once again that is garbage and needs to be retooled yet again.  Unfortunately, they cannot get rid of MIller(and his big contract) and hence they will have to give up White (and his big contract).

The Bills backups are average to below average. We need better talent for them to step up and not miss a beat.

I don't think Morse and Poyer are gone. Think they'll be here 1 more year 

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50 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Gone from last year squad:

* Hyde, Poyer, White,  Jackson

* Rapp, Hamlin, 

* Matkevich, 

* Floyd, Epenesa, Ford, Jones, Lawson,

 

* Harty, Sherfield, Davis

* Murray

* Morse

 

It is the defense once again that is garbage and needs to be retooled yet again.  Unfortunately, they cannot get rid of MIller(and his big contract) and hence they will have to give up White (and his big contract).

The Bills backups are average to below average. We need better talent for them to step up and not miss a beat.

None of these players really move the needle for me other than Jones. Even when the defense was healthy they weren’t exactly stopping offenses with a pulse best to get younger on that side of the ball anyway. 

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32 minutes ago, RG Murdock said:

Not good when 75% of your D-Line are free agents, and you have no real money to spend to keep at least a couple of them. Beane's been a great GM, but his misses on his D-Line picks are coming back to haunt them. The Miller contract is atrocious. Let's face it, if Miller does not come back and play at least decently (Maybe 6-8 sacks) the Bills are going to have problems. Odd that the Bills are $50M over the cap, and the Chiefs are $24M under. $75M difference. Not optimal.  

 

Definitely going to be some changes this offseason especially on the defensive side of the ball. They need to get younger and as you mentioned it's going to be hard to resign some of them because of the cap. I believe we have 10 picks in this draft. Beane really needs to hit a HR here.

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39 minutes ago, RG Murdock said:

Not good when 75% of your D-Line are free agents, and you have no real money to spend to keep at least a couple of them. Beane's been a great GM, but his misses on his D-Line picks are coming back to haunt them. The Miller contract is atrocious. Let's face it, if Miller does not come back and play at least decently (Maybe 6-8 sacks) the Bills are going to have problems. Odd that the Bills are $50M over the cap, and the Chiefs are $24M under. $75M difference. Not optimal.  

Bills have 58 players under contract.  The Chiefs 43...not including Jones and Snead.  Yes...the Bills are in worse shape but the Chiefs don't have a boatload of cash.

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Defensive stats:

No. 2 - TDs allowed
No. 4 - INTs

No. 4 - Sacks
No. 4 - Point differential
No. 8 - Yds/att

No. 9 - Fumble recoveries

Biggest loss differential - 6 points

We are top 10 in almost every defensive category, despite the rash of injuries. Visually, the defense had the look - aggressive and smart. How McD had this unit playing as well as it did with these massive injuries is nothing short of amazing IMO. 

 

People calling the defense "garbage" and other vapid names have a poor take and that's saying it lightly. 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, jkeerie said:

That's what I'm asking.  What moves would you make along those lines?  Likely they'll restructure Josh.  Who else would you restructure?  Who would you cut?  I'm trying to garner thoughts so we can move on from the Book of Lamentations.

Cut Mitch Morse & Tre'Davious White, unless they agree to take pay cuts.

 

Get Von Miller to take a pay cut.

 

Restructure contracts of Josh Allen & Dawson Knox.

 

Give contract extensions to Dion Dawkins, Rasul Douglas & Taron Johnson.

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6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Cut Mitch Morse & Tre'Davious White, unless they agree to take pay cuts.

 

Get Von Miller to take a pay cut.

 

Restructure contracts of Josh Allen & Dawson Knox.

 

Give contract extensions to Dion Dawkins, Rasul Douglas & Taron Johnson.


Von needs to be on a deal that is mostly incentives

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Realistically?

 

Re-sign:

 

Daquan Jones

AJ Epenesa

Ty Johnson

David Edwards

Shaq Lawson

 

Cut:

 

Tre White

Deonte Harty

 

Draft:

 

Two Wide Receivers in Rounds 1-4

Use the rest of the picks on Defense (DT, DT, S, S, CB, CB, LB)

 

Restructure:

 

Allen

 

Extension:

 

Dawkins 

Douglas

Johnson

 

Going to need to absolutely crush this Draft

 

If we're allowed to dream..

 

Trade Diggs.  Somehow, someway.  I'd even be willing to lose a player or two to make this happen due to his cap acceleration.  This team around Allen doesn't step up in the playoffs, and while Kelce is ol' reliable for Mahomes, Diggs has been the opposite of that for Allen.  Rip the band-aid off and move on.  Kincaid, Shakir, Knox and Cook can hold it down while we get some high draft picks at WR going as the season progresses. 

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1 hour ago, Just in Atlanta said:

Defensive stats:

No. 2 - TDs allowed
No. 4 - INTs

No. 4 - Sacks
No. 4 - Point differential
No. 8 - Yds/att

No. 9 - Fumble recoveries

Biggest loss differential - 6 points

We are top 10 in almost every defensive category, despite the rash of injuries. Visually, the defense had the look - aggressive and smart. How McD had this unit playing as well as it did with these massive injuries is nothing short of amazing IMO. 

 

People calling the defense "garbage" and other vapid names have a poor take and that's saying it lightly. 

 

 

 

 

People keep talking about this: we lost 1 guy? We lost Milano. We upgraded Tre White with Rasul Douglass. We didnt have "massive injuries"

 

In the play offs we were banged up but in the regular season (which is where those stats come from) there was 1 injury. 

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