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On 2/3/2024 at 6:43 PM, Einstein said:

A couple of these quotes have been sprinkled in various threads, but this probably deserves it’s own thread since the media will run with these.

 

I don’t know if he’s doing it on purpose, or if he doesn’t realize how it comes off, but his cryptic comments definitely stir things up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a pretty stupid thread if you want to be taken seriously as a poster.  

 

Diggs has said literally nothing cryptic or controversial.  Why on earth do you think it deserves its own thread to talk about nothing?  He even literally said there was no news at all in this same interview.  DIggs also said he is gretting really tired of these same stupid questions he has already answered getting asked again, just like posters here recycling the same stupid non-story drama for no reason.  

 

Its early in the offseason, but this is already the worst thread of the offseason so far given there is literally no plausible information of any kind remotely suggesting he wants to be traded or that the Bills would ever consider trading him.

 

There is a big difference of starting a thread about "could we trade Diggs" and speculate on whether it would work or not, what it could be, etc and starting a thread forcing a false negative narrative around Diggs that just isn't there like you people get trying to do over and over.

 

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15 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Absolutely, you don’t think there would be arguments over whether his statement was genuine and/or true or not? 


 Not really … because the story is the comments … I don’t think positive comments are as newsworthy 

 

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53 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


“Are you going to be part of the Buffalo Bills next year ?”

 

“ I don’t know …”

 

How hard is it to say “yes ,,, and I’m looking forward to it “…

 

Really? So that's all he said then? He just said "I don't know" and walked away?

 

No, that's not what happened. You're removing the full quote and taking things out of context to fit a narrative. Let's put the whole quote out there, shall we?

 

"I don't know - like, I feel like, as far as with the money and all that type of stuff - I can't control none of that, you know what i'm saying? I kind of put my hat on, you know what i'm saying? Like I said, it's a long offseason in front of me. As far as what the future holds - I don't have any surprises for you right now, but for me, i'm still going to be me regardless"

 

He's quite literally just saying "that's not up to me". Which is the truth! He wasn't asked "do you want to be a Bill next season?". He was asked if he will be. And he answered with "that's not my call". He said "I don't have any surprises for you right now". Which I read as him saying, there's nothing changed as far as he's aware.

 

He answered the question and said that's not his decision. Yet everyone wants to take that as him saying he doesn't want to be here. He simply answered with "that's Beane's decision". Perhaps with some humility, understanding how the season ended for him, where the team is at financially, and how much money he makes. 

 

And let's say he did just say "I don't know" and that was that. Absolutely not what happened, but let's go with it as if it did. That could have been him saying "I don't know if they'll keep me". Even then, it would be a jump to take that as "he doesn't want to be here".

 

So much of the fervor of Diggs involves what he DIDN'T say. What fans feel he should have said. What naysayers want to believe he said by putting words in his mouth. Not everyone thinks and elaborates the same way. Diggs isn't the greatest with communicating, nor does he even really seem to care to be. Read what's said and react to what's said, verbatim. 

 

And this? This is just someone literally just saying "Those kind of decisions aren't up to me, I just put my hat on and go to work, and that's what i'm going to do". Absolutely NOTHING to see here, unless you're someone with an axe to grind.

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1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I mean, yes but then what's the point?

 

If Diggs' relationship with the team has totally broken down, or if some team offers a great trade package, or some combination of the two.

 

I'm not advocating to trade Diggs. Financially and from a roster perspective it makes more sense to keep him and if anything unload him next offseason. I'm just saying the people who are crowing that it's "impossible" to get rid of Diggs are wrong. Doing it pre-6/1 is likely impossible unless they are just giving up on the 2024 season. Doing it post-6/1 is certainly feasible though and there would be benefits as soon as next year.

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18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Really? So that's all he said then? He just said "I don't know" and walked away?

 

No, that's not what happened. You're removing the full quote and taking things out of context to fit a narrative. Let's put the whole quote out there, shall we?

 

"I don't know - like, I feel like, as far as with the money and all that type of stuff - I can't control none of that, you know what i'm saying? I kind of put my hat on, you know what i'm saying? Like I said, it's a long offseason in front of me. As far as what the future holds - I don't have any surprises for you right now, but for me, i'm still going to be me regardless"

 

He's quite literally just saying "that's not up to me". Which is the truth! He wasn't asked "do you want to be a Bill next season?". He was asked if he will be. And he answered with "that's not my call". He said "I don't have any surprises for you right now". Which I read as him saying, there's nothing changed as far as he's aware.

 

He answered the question and said that's not his decision. Yet everyone wants to take that as him saying he doesn't want to be here. He simply answered with that's Beane's decision. Perhaps with some humility, understanding how the season ended for him, where the team is at financially, and how much money he makes. 

 

So much of the fervor of Diggs involves what he DIDN'T say. What fans feel he should have said. What naysayers want to believe he said by putting words in his mouth. Not everyone thinks and elaborates the same way. Diggs isn't the greatest with communicating, nor does he even really seem to care to be. Read what's said and react to what's said, verbatim. 

 

And this? This is just someone literally just saying "Those kind of decisions aren't up to me, I just put my hat on and go to work, and that's what i'm going to do". Absolutely nothing to see here, unless you're someone with an axe to grind.


Why the need to have such serious musings at the Pro Bowl?
 

 I mean … we all know that he isn’t the decision maker at the team and it’s not his call and he can’t see the future …. If he just says “yes and I’m looking forward to it” the  media has nothing to blow out of proportion …

 


 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


Why the need to have such serious musings at the Pro Bowl?
 

 I mean … we all know that he isn’t decision maker at the team and it’s not his call and he can’t see the future …. If he says “yes and I’m looking forward to it” the  media has nothing to blow out of proportion …

 

Because he doesn't make that call.

 

Simple as that. He doesn't decide whether he's a Bill or not. Even if he said "I want out" - that's not up to him. Almost no one can definitively say they're safe from being cut or traded. He answered a question honestly. I'm sorry that he didn't answer it the way you wanted him to. But that doesn't mean the answer means anything different or more than what it very clearly is.

 

Just a player saying "those decisions aren't up to me, i'm just going to keep going about things and working the way that I do and not worry about things beyond my control". That's it. And it's a very standard Football answer said by many players. Not some crazy, out there answer.

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7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If Diggs' relationship with the team has totally broken down, or if some team offers a great trade package, or some combination of the two.

 

I'm not advocating to trade Diggs. Financially and from a roster perspective it makes more sense to keep him and if anything unload him next offseason. I'm just saying the people who are crowing that it's "impossible" to get rid of Diggs are wrong. Doing it pre-6/1 is likely impossible unless they are just giving up on the 2024 season. Doing it post-6/1 is certainly feasible though and there would be benefits as soon as next year.

Ok. It's not "impossible". 

 

Just "cause for termination" level stupid for some GM.

 

Do you think the Vikings will trade us Justin Jefferson to get Diggs back? 

 

Seriously how hard is it to wait one year to actually see a return or some gain? We are almost certainly not seeing Diggs level production out of a rookie

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7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Because he doesn't make that call!

 

Simple as that. He doesn't decide whether he's a Bill or not. Even if he said "I want out" - that's not up to him. Almost no one can definitively say they're safe from being cut or traded. He answered a question honestly. I'm sorry that he didn't answer it the way you wanted him to. But that doesn't mean the answer means anything different or more than what it very clearly is.


Hey … you don’t need to apologise on his behalf  ….

 

I just think if he provided a different  answer to this question  then we aren’t talking about it …at the end of the day if he wants to keep courting controversy with comments like this ( it’s not the first time) then good luck to him … Im not going to lose any sleep about it… 

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1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:


“Are you going to be part of the Buffalo Bills next year ?”

 

“ I don’t know …”

 

How hard is it to say “yes ,,, and I’m looking forward to it “…

 

Yeah, not hard at all.

 

And Diggs is a smart young man.


He knows what he is doing (even if some fans aren’t smart enough to see it).

 

The only question is WHY is he doing it? 

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5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


Hey … you don’t need to apologise on his behalf  ….

 

I just think if he provided a different  answer to this question  then we aren’t talking about it …at the end of the day if he wants to keep courting controversy with comments like this ( it’s not the first time) then good luck to him … Im not going to lose any sleep about it… 

 

No one should be talking about it. He gave a standard, nothing, Belichick level football answer that's said by many players every single year. 

 

Only people who want to manufacture it into a big deal because they have an axe to grind or are simply bored are talking about it.

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1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

Yeah, not hard at all.

 

And Diggs is a smart young man.


He knows what he is doing (even if some fans aren’t smart enough to see it).

 

The only question is WHY is he doing it? 

 

I can't help but lose respect for posters who start threads and post snippets of an interview to skew the narrative rather than POST THE WHOLE INTERVIEW which actually CLEARLY illustrates a different tone and narrative than what this thread is forcibly trying to create.  

 

Honestly your thread just feels like a total LAMP thread forcing a narrative that isn't there.  Gotta be the worst thread of the offseason so far that is now putting FALSE impressions in other posters heads who are going to carry this FALSE sense of IMAGINARY controversy all off season and derail other threads over and over again. 

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4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Yeah, not hard at all.

 

And Diggs is a smart young man.


He knows what he is doing (even if some fans aren’t smart enough to see it).

 

The only question is WHY is he doing it? 

 

Why is he giving a standard football answer? Do you know how many players every year say "I don't worry about things beyond my control, I just go to work"? Which is EXACTLY what he said.

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39 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Really? So that's all he said then? He just said "I don't know" and walked away?

 

"I don't know - like, I feel like, as far as with the money and all that type of stuff….”

 

Ask Josh Allen that same question and no version of “I don’t know” or money stuff comes out of his mouth.

 

Zero. Zip. Nada

 

It would simply be “Absolutely and I can’t wait”, or some version of that.

 

And no it wasn’t a standard, nothing, Belichick type answer. Do you know what Belichick said just 3 days before he was fired? He said he plans to be the coach the next year. Because THAT is the type of answer you’re supposed to give. 

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21 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Just "cause for termination" level stupid for some GM.

 

Then we might as well say failing to even to attempt to upgrade the WR2 spot was "cause for termination level stupid." Failing to sign Hopkins, etc.

 

If the team can get a good trade package back and they are sick of Diggs' antics I wouldn't blame Beane if he decided to move on. But like I said I would personally prefer to keep him and hope he can get back to the player he was before 2023.

 

21 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

We are almost certainly not seeing Diggs level production out of a rookie

 

That depends. Are you talking about the Diggs from before 2023? Then no, almost certainly not. The Diggs we saw down the stretch? That isn't an unrealistic expectation for a 1st round rookie. Shakir out produced Diggs over the last 10 games... In fact Shakir's yards per target more than doubled Diggs'. If Shakir can do that, why not a much better prospect?

 

We just have to hope it was an injury. But that's all it is, a hope. Diggs participated in the Pro Bowl and there's been no reports that he got any kind of surgery or medical treatment after the season ended. His lasting impression of the season was a dropped catch in a critical moment that had nothing to do with any perceived injury.

 

So for me I'm already assuming we need a new #1 WR next year. I genuinely advocate for assuming the worst case scenario in these discussions, make roster decisions accordingly, and then if you get the best case scenario you're that much better off. The reason I want to keep Diggs is that I know he can be a good #2 even if it's just the player we got down the stretch. Still I would understand the decision to move on if it makes sense.

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Diggs is trying to set his market.  Can’t blame him but it doesn’t help the team that is paying his overblown salary. In my book seeeeee Ya.  Too old and not performing to have this crap attitude last year plus.     They lost several games trying to appease his ego and it put us behind.    
 

time to go. 
 

 

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8 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Ask Josh Allen that same question and no version of “I don’t know” or money stuff comes out of his mouth.

 

Zero. Zip. Nada

 

It would simply be “Absolutely and I can’t wait”, or some version of that.

 

And no it wasn’t a standard, nothing, Belichick type answer. Do you know what Belichick said just 3 days before he was fired? He said he plans to be the coach the next year. Because THAT is the type of answer you’re supposed to give. 

 

It absolutely is. Like I said, do you have any idea how many players say on a yearly basis "I just go to work and don't worry about things beyond my control"?

 

The answer you want to hear is better served if the question was "do you WANT to be a Buffalo Bill next season?". That's not the question that was asked and the answer he gave does not imply he doesn't want to be here. Unless you put on a tinfoil hat.

 

You're even putting words in Josh's mouth. We wouldn't know what he'd say if he were asked "will you be a Bill next season?" - because no one would have a reason to ever ask him that, like they do Diggs after that drop. I could easily see Josh saying "well that's not really up to me" as well. It's a STANDARD answer.

 

All you're doing with this post is fanning the flames of people who want him gone. And it's a poor excuse of a reason to.

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Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

It absolutely is. Like I said, do you have any idea how many players say on a yearly basis "I just go to work and don't worry about things beyond my control"?

 

The answer you want to hear is better served if the question was "do you WANT to be a Buffalo Bill next season?". That's not the question that was asked and the answer he gave does not imply he doesn't want to be here. Unless you put on a tinfoil hat.

 

@Einsteinis just looking for attention.  He cherry picked a couple lines to make a fake controversy that isn't there and now he is trying to spin his reasons for it with answers dumber than this thread.  

 

Its threads like this that really bring down the quality of the board.  Its one thing to start a thread and discuss the possibility of a trade and a totally other pile of garbage to manipulate a false narrative to stir the pot for attention.  

 

Literally the worst thread of 2024 because its going to falsely skew others opinions who didn't take the time to listen to the WHOLE interview and just took this hot garbage thread at face value.  

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14 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

It absolutely is. Like I said, do you have any idea how many players say on a yearly basis "I just go to work and don't worry about things beyond my control"?

 

The answer you want to hear is better served if the question was "do you WANT to be a Buffalo Bill next season?". That's not the question that was asked and the answer he gave does not imply he doesn't want to be here. Unless you put on a tinfoil hat.

 

You're even putting words in Josh's mouth. We wouldn't know what he'd say if he were asked "will you be a Bill next season?" - because no one would have a reason to ever ask him that, like they do Diggs after that drop. I could easily see Josh saying "well that's not really up to me" as well. It's a STANDARD answer.

 

All you're doing with this post is fanning the flames of people who want him gone. And it's a poor excuse of a reason to.

Who says that? Honestly?

 

Here’s Mike Evans, an actual pending free agent WR:

 

"I've been on record saying how much I love this place and how much I want to be here," Evans said on Sunday.

 

Wow. Why doesn’t he say, “I don’t know what the future holds?” Why doesn’t he say, “that’s not up to me, it’s up to the Bucs, I just go to work.”

 

instead, Evans says:

 

“I would love to be back, I love Tampa Bay,” he said. “Been here my whole career. The city has been great to me, the franchise has been unbelievable to me and my family. I love this place. So, we’ll see.”

 

It’s so craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy that Diggs’ comments are a story. Lol

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16 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Then we might as well say failing to even to attempt to upgrade the WR2 spot was "cause for termination level stupid." Failing to sign Hopkins, etc.

 

If the team can get a good trade package back and they are sick of Diggs' antics I wouldn't blame Beane if he decided to move on. But like I said I would personally prefer to keep him and hope he can get back to the player he was before 2023.

 

 

That depends. Are you talking about the Diggs from before 2023? Then no, almost certainly not. The Diggs we saw down the stretch? That isn't an unrealistic expectation for a 1st round rookie. Shakir out produced Diggs over the last 10 games... In fact Shakir's yards per target more than doubled Diggs'. If Shakir can do that, why not a much better prospect?

 

We just have to hope it was an injury. But that's all it is, a hope. Diggs participated in the Pro Bowl and there's been no reports that he got any kind of surgery or medical treatment after the season ended. His lasting impression of the season was a dropped catch in a critical moment that had nothing to do with any perceived injury.

 

So for me I'm already assuming we need a new #1 WR next year. I genuinely advocate for assuming the worst case scenario in these discussions, make roster decisions accordingly, and then if you get the best case scenario you're that much better off. The reason I want to keep Diggs is that I know he can be a good #2 even if it's just the player we got down the stretch. Still I would understand the decision to move on if it makes sense.

No. You can argue about what free agents are worth money or who could have been had for what. That's a debate.

 

Punching yourself in the taint by cutting a player who has had over a thousand yards the last four years straight for negative cap space is only in the head of shock jocks desperate for hot takes and delusional recense bias fans. 

 

And would it shock you that 7 receivers in the history of the NFL had more yards their rookie season than Diggs had last year? 

 

I get it. We are frustrated. We should be looking to draft a replacement and this draft looks like a great time to do it. But barring Mike Evans holding out for June 1st or a team is willing to throw multiple first rounders I 100% expect Diggs to be on the roster at the start of the league year. And you all better be ready for the very realistic possibility that he gets extended rather than cut. 

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He obviously doesn’t want to be here but he knows its going to be tough for us to move off him. How hard is it for him to  say “I want to be a Bill and I’m happy where am I am.” It would dead all of the foolishness but of course he doesn't.  He showed who he really was when he skipped the first day of mandatory camp in the spring. 

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29 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I can't help but lose respect for posters who start threads and post snippets of an interview to skew the narrative rather than POST THE WHOLE INTERVIEW which actually CLEARLY illustrates a different tone and narrative than what this thread is forcibly trying to create.  

 

Honestly your thread just feels like a total LAMP thread forcing a narrative that isn't there.  Gotta be the worst thread of the offseason so far that is now putting FALSE impressions in other posters heads who are going to carry this FALSE sense of IMAGINARY controversy all off season and derail other threads over and over again. 

This tired argument would hold more weight if Diggs wasn’t effusive with his praise before.

 

The guy went from “I want to retire a Bill,” to “I don’t know what the future holds.”

 

Guess what? He couldn’t control if he was gonna retire a Bill last year. He still said it. 

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2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

This tired argument would hold more weight if Diggs wasn’t effusive with his praise before.

 

The guy went from “I want to retire a Bill,” to “I don’t know what the future holds.”

 

Guess what? He couldn’t control if he was gonna retire a Bill last year. He still said it. 

 

This is such a ridiculous response.  Diggs essentially said its not in his control, which is true for ALL players.  He has made it clear all season many times he isn't unhappy in Buffalo and literally said he never once said he wasn't happy here.  

 

Just again forcing narratives where there are none just like your ridiculous take in your other thread suggesting McD wants a pound the rock offense, which is just as ridiculous as this thread. 

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23 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

To be honest, no one would likely think twice if he just gave that answer (and that answer alone).

 

But he didn’t. He said “I don’t know”, then talked about he can’t control money stuff, etc. He did it on purpose. The question is why. Could be as simple as he finds it fun to cause speculation. Or it could be that he is sending a message.

 

And there are 8+ pages of posters who in large part agree with the way I interpreted his quote. 

 

Of course there are those who simply want attention and therefore will keep spamming the same message and tagging me and quoting me, but the truth is that the number of posters who agree with me that he is giving cryptic messages are currently outnumbering those who think his comments were innocent.

 

Doesn't seem that way to me in the first few pages. 

 

And those that are, I'm sure if I go through their posts I'll find no biases, right? Of course the fans who dislike him and/or want him gone are agreeing with you. 

 

Like I've said, this statement in a vacuum is a giant nothing burger. Unless you've got an axe to grind and choose to make it bigger than it is to fit a narrative that argues he shouldn't be here.

 

Or in your case, the narrative that this was worthy of a post and causing a controversy that really doesn't exist.

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1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

This is such a ridiculous response.  Diggs essentially said its not in his control, which is true for ALL players.  He has made it clear all season many times he isn't unhappy in Buffalo and literally said he never once said he wasn't happy here.  

 

Just again forcing narratives where there are none just like your ridiculous take in your other thread suggesting McD wants a pound the rock offense, which is just as ridiculous as this thread. 

That's true.

 

Here's what Diggs said about his future with the Bills in 2022.

 

"I felt like my next spot was my last spot," Diggs said to the media after signing his extension. "I wanted it to be my home, and I didn't want to ever go anywhere. It was important to me especially in my first year and second year, you just kind of felt like you were building family."

 

Here's what Diggs said about his future with the Bills in 2024.

 

" I don't know, I feel like, as far as all of that with the money and all that type of stuff, I can't control none of that. I kind of put my hat on. It's a long offseason, and as far as what the future holds, I don't have any surprises for you right now."

 

Do these comments seem different to you? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

 

BONUS INFO:

 

Here's Diggs in Minnesota:

 

"But things soured between Diggs and Minnesota in the two years following, despite the receiver enjoying career-high production. Diggs was fined in October for missing Vikings meetings and practices, which preceded and inspired trade rumors that subsided but never really went away."

 

Wow, Diggs skipping meetings and missing practices?  That seems......kind of familiar.

 

Diggs negative comments in Minnesota circa 2019:

 

"I can't sit up here and say everything is okay, it's obviously not. What I can say at this point is just try to work through it."

 

Of course, Minnesota fans were twisting themselves into KNOTS that all was well with Diggs at that time. He's just a fiery guy!

 

And then, of course, Diggs backtracked:

 

#Vikings WR Stefon Diggs on his comments last week: "I never said I was unhappy or uncomfortable with my role. I said I wanted to win, that was what my frustrations were and that's where it kind of got misconstrued last week.''

 

Well, at least we know he later cleared the air and definitely wasn't traded in the offseason......

 

Here's the story of Diggs in TC this season:

 

“Diggs’ frustration is with his role in the offense and his voice in play-calling, per a league source close to the Bills’ locker room,” Volin wrote. “He was visibly agitated at Allen during the 27-10 playoff loss to the Bengals, stormed out of the locker room almost immediately after the game, and didn’t attend any voluntary workouts this offseason.”

 

Hmmmmm, kind of sounds familiar as well.

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8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

" I don't know, I feel like, as far as all of that with the money and all that type of stuff, I can't control none of that. I kind of put my hat on. It's a long offseason, and as far as what the future holds, I don't have any surprises for you right now."

 

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

"I can't sit up here and say everything is okay, it's obviously not. What I can say at this point is just try to work through it."

 

If you can't see the difference between those two statements.... I don't even know what to say.

 

So much of all of you who say this is a big deal is based on what he didn't say. You know what else he didn't say and has said before?

 

"I can't sit up here and say everything is okay because it's obviously not"

 

Tell me when he says that or anything you are alluding to happening that he hasn't said - than there will be cause for bother.

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Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

 

If you can't see the difference between those two statements.... I don't even know what to say.

I didn't draw that parallel.

 

 But since you asked, here are Diggs' frustrated comments after losing last year.

 

"Want me to be okay with losing ? Nah," Diggs tweeted. "Want me to be okay with our level of play when it's not up to the standard ? Nah." In a third tweet, Diggs said, "It's easy to criticize my reaction more than the result."

 

That does sound a lot like his frustrated quotes from Minnesota.

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8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I didn't draw that parallel.

 

 But since you asked, here are Diggs' frustrated comments after losing last year.

 

"Want me to be okay with losing ? Nah," Diggs tweeted. "Want me to be okay with our level of play when it's not up to the standard ? Nah." In a third tweet, Diggs said, "It's easy to criticize my reaction more than the result."

 

That does sound a lot like his frustrated quotes from Minnesota.

 

You didn't draw the parallel? You literally typed it out. Like what?

 

Whatever you're implying, what happened after he got upset? He played for the Buffalo Bills. And the result will be the same this season. 

 

Even the media, who should be the ones making stories out of nothing, reported this for what it is. Him referring to whether or not Beane will keep him.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/stefon-diggs-cant-tell-what-future-holds-ill-be-ready-to-go-no-matter-what

 

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If there is going to be a change of address, it will likely come early in the offseason. Diggs’ $18.5 million salary becomes fully guaranteed a few days into the new league year in March, so it shouldn’t be too long until Diggs knows just where he’ll be come the start of next season.

 

He said "it's out of my hands" and it's out of his hands. Less than a month and his salary becomes fully guaranteed. Less than a month until this ridiculous conversation comes to an end.

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4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Like I've said, this statement in a vacuum is a giant nothing burger. Unless you've got an axe to grind 

 

If you mean it’s a nothing burger because he won’t cause any trouble - totally agree. But he certainly said wha the said on purpose. And he said it for a reason. Ignoring that is just silly imo.

 

Speaking for myself, I have no axe to grind. I love Diggs. Got some Diggs paraphernalia to sell? I’ll buy it! I’m a big Diggs fan. But i’m not blinded by my love for him to not see the obvious.

 

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1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You didn't draw the parallel? You literally typed it out. Like what?

 

Whatever you're implying, what happened after he got upset? He played for the Buffalo Bills. And the result will be the same this season. 

 

Even the media, who should be the ones making stories out of nothing, reported this for what it is. Him referring to whether or not Beane will keep him.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/stefon-diggs-cant-tell-what-future-holds-ill-be-ready-to-go-no-matter-what

 

 

He said "it's out of my hands" and it's out of his hands. Less than a month and his salary becomes fully guaranteed. Less than a month until this ridiculous conversation comes to an end.

I wasn't drawing a parallel between those two quotes. I was demonstrating what happened in Minnesota that Bills fans' have somehow memory-holed like Diggs didn't have his own media circus ending with his departure.

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5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

... and what exactly does that have to do with his comments being a big ole' nothing burger?

 

It's the same every year. Diggs will say or do some cryptic stuff to keep his name on people's lips during the Offseason and literally everyone falls for it. 

 

Sorry to break it to you, but he's not going anywhere until 2025 at the earliest. He knows it and the Bills know it.

Sorry to break it to you, but I never said he was going anywhere. lol

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14 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

If you mean it’s a nothing burger because he won’t cause any trouble - totally agree. But he certainly said wha the said on purpose. And he said it for a reason. Ignoring that is just ignorant.

 

Speaking for myself, I have no axe to grind. I love Diggs. Got some Diggs paraphernalia to sell? I’ll buy it! I’m a big Diggs fan. But i’m not blinded by my love for him to not see the obvious.

 

If you're a big Diggs fan - you'd know the truth when it comes to him.

 

He likes to be an enigma. He likes to play with the media. He knows what to say to make them run headlines and keep his name and his brand relevant during the Offseason. 

 

Last offseason, when he left OTA's - there was a reason to talk about him. Now? This? An honest answer about an honest situation that's beyond his control, that only the "ignorant" talk about.

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If you're a big Diggs fan - you'd know the truth when it comes to him.

 

He likes to be an enigma. He likes to play with the media. He knows what to say to make them run headlines and keep his name and his brand relevant during the Offseason. 

 

Last offseason, when he left OTA's - there was a reason to talk about him. Now? This? An honest answer about an honest situation that's beyond his control, with a little bit of added mystery to get the "ignorant" talking.

So then, after all of that, you admit that Diggs is being cryptic and getting headlines, so it is worth a story?

 

That's very funny.

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9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

So then, after all of that, you admit that Diggs is being cryptic and getting headlines, so it is worth a story?

 

That's very funny.

 

Getting the media to talk about you and it being worth a story or being talked about here are two different things entirely. This time of the year, the media will talk about anything.

 

Like I've said, this is nothing. It's not worth talking about. And now it's going to be referenced by anti-Diggs people all year as proof positive he doesn't want to be here.

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19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

He likes to be an enigma. He likes to play with the media. He knows what to say to make them run headlines and keep his name and his brand relevant during the Offseason. 

 

So… you agree with us.

 

What a waste of time this conversation was 😂

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42 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I didn't draw that parallel.

 

 But since you asked, here are Diggs' frustrated comments after losing last year.

 

"Want me to be okay with losing ? Nah," Diggs tweeted. "Want me to be okay with our level of play when it's not up to the standard ? Nah." In a third tweet, Diggs said, "It's easy to criticize my reaction more than the result."

 

That does sound a lot like his frustrated quotes from Minnesota.

Really who exactly was happy with how we played in that game?

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10 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

So… you agree with us.

 

What a waste of time this conversation was 😂

It so quickly goes from "Diggs didn't say anything bad, why is the media talking about this" to "Diggs said bad things on purpose to get the media talking about this."

 

My head is spinning.

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Really who exactly was happy with how we played in that game?

Nobody, but that's not the point?

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22 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

So… you agree with us.

 

What a waste of time this conversation was 😂

 

Absolutely not.

 

Both things can be true. He likes to play with the media (which I did say in a previous post on here) and that what he said in this interview means absolutely nothing. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

I do not agree with you that it's worth talking about.

 

11 minutes ago, FireChans said:

It so quickly goes from "Diggs didn't say anything bad, why is the media talking about this" to "Diggs said bad things on purpose to get the media talking about this."

 

My head is spinning.

 

It's only spinning if you only look at things in terms of black and white without seeing shades of grey. As I said, him liking to play with the media doesn't equate to him being unhappy or wanting out. So there's nothing to see here, as I've said this whole time.

 

And you're definitely putting words in my mouth by having me say "he said bad things" here. Definitely not the case.

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5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Absolutely not.

 

Both things can be true. He likes to play with the media (which I did say in a previous post on here) and that what he said in this interview means absolutely nothing. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

I do not agree with you that it's worth talking about.

 

 

It's only spinning if you only look at things in terms of black and white without seeing shades of grey. As I said, him liking to play with the media doesn't equate to him being unhappy or wanting out.

 

And you're definitely putting words in my mouth by having me say "he said bad things" here. Definitely not the case.

You're just assuming that he doesn't "mean" his controversial statements, right?  That's your shade of gray. 

 

He's saying controversial things, things that will get media headlines, speculation, etc etc, he just doesn't mean them?

 

That's fine to have that take. It's not fine to have that take, and also say "he's not saying anything controversial." 

 

So if you agree that he's saying controversial things on purpose, which it sounds like you do, you seem pretty confident he means nothing by it or that he's just "trolling." I'm not sure where you have gotten that level of confidence.  Because on Diggs' last team, he said a lot of controversial things, and was eventually traded.

 

Maybe you know Diggs or his camp intimately?

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