Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I wonder if he’ll be the Harty replacement next year. Samuel is the type of WR you want running all those WR screens we’ve been calling. Doesn’t hurt that Samuel had over 1,000 total yards with Joe Brady and Beane helped draft him in Carolina. How would you feel about Samuel and a 1st round WR as the major WR additions? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Decent idea. Can he run an entire route tree? Is he a WR, or is he a gadget type? Harty is signed thru next year, typically only room for 1 gadget player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustheDog33 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It will be hard to be less productive than Sherfield and Harty's combined stats of 26 catches for 236 and 2 Tds. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: Decent idea. Can he run an entire route tree? Is he a WR, or is he a gadget type? Harty is signed thru next year, typically only room for 1 gadget player. He’s like a Deebo Samuel lite. Can do some of the same things but never put it all together due to injuries. Explosive player that plays all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 No thanks. Always injured 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I wonder if he’ll be the Harty replacement next year. Samuel is the type of WR you want running all those WR screens we’ve been calling. Doesn’t hurt that Samuel had over 1,000 total yards with Joe Brady and Beane helped draft him in Carolina. How would you feel about Samuel and a 1st round WR as the major WR additions? Good idea. I used to love him and would draft him often in fantasy. His injuries though would derail his seasons. But I see he had been relatively healthy now the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, NewEra said: No thanks. Always injured Unfortunately these are the types of FA’s we are going to need to swing on. high upside but some sort of question depressing their market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Would love Samuel. But if he even sniffs his Spotrac projected market value of $11.5M/year, then I am not super hopeful. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: No thanks. Always injured We have plenty of those already on the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I like Samuel, but I don't think he's a necessary sign. Shakir is comfortably slotted in as our #3, I think. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Unfortunately these are the types of FA’s we are going to need to swing on. high upside but some sort of question depressing their market. I doubt we swing on him. We already have shakir and Kincaid- we need an outside guy. Not another of the same who additionally can’t ever stay healthy. If we want to pay him 2-3M- maybe but I think it’ll just be a waste of 2-3M 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 ill take him, but there will prolly be a better wr target for the money given we have shakir. we need a guy to go deep and catch passes on the outside. he might cost too much, but i'd love to see a tee higgins or some such be added to diggs on the outside. with kinkaid, cook, and shakir doing what they can in the middle, imo a real guy on the outside puts us over the top. seeing 16 or 11 lined up outside one on one on 2nd and 3rd down its just a waste imo. 16 got smacked on the hands with two bombs and never came close to making a play. we can get better than that production out of shorter or any like 5th or 6th round rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, NewEra said: I doubt we swing on him. We already have shakir and Kincaid- we need an outside guy. Not another of the same who additionally can’t ever stay healthy. If we want to pay him 2-3M- maybe but I think it’ll just be a waste of 2-3M Yeah, maybe he doesn’t fit stylistically. But I think we are going to have to entice a guy with some question marks to come have a healthy season with Josh Allen on a one year prove it deal, then secure your bag elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: Yeah, maybe he doesn’t fit stylistically. But I think we are going to have to entice a guy with some question marks to come have a healthy season with Josh Allen on a one year prove it deal, then secure your bag elsewhere. Yeah I hear ya. I just don’t know if his skill set is something we need. I’m thinking open up the down field passing game- Samuel is just more short- rac plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Yeah I hear ya. I just don’t know if his skill set is something we need. Between Shakir and KJ Hamler, we're probably set in the slot. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 No. We can no longer try to fix our WR mess with cast off from other teams. We need to invest in the position. We need to use two of our top 3 picks on WRs and finally, for the first time in Beane’s tenure, have real depth and talent at the position that can be part of the solution long-term. Samuel is just another band-aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I’m really thinking that we are just going to draft a more complete wr in the first and double dip somewhere in the third or fourth round and call it a day. With Diggs likely back, we have some vet leadership for the young guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Simon said: Between Shakir and KJ Hamler, we're probably set in the slot. Hamler has zero catches last year and only 12 the two previous. This is not some un-polished gem waiting to be discovered. If he makes this team, Beane has again failed to give Josh the weapons he needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Even first round pick WRs can take a season or 2 to develop. Look at Quentin Johnston on the Chargers, he was thrust into opportunity this year & still didn't do much. We'll draft one early, but also need to hedge that bet with a FA WR pickup. Samuel is a good player, but I don't think he fits our need as an outside WR. I fear he'd be like Crowder was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 24 minutes ago, GustheDog33 said: It will be hard to be less productive than Sherfield and Harty's combined stats of 26 catches for 236 and 2 Tds. Sheffield was a waste of $1.8M, more than Davis gets btw, and had the worst catch% of anyone on the team at 50.0%. He didn't qualify in the rankings for lack of catches, a self-made problem for him, but of the WRs that did qualify, only four we're worse. Three of them had crap QBs and the other was a rookie. We knew this upon signing him, he has a career 55.3% catch%, which is abysmal. Entirely unreliable as we saw in our last two playoff games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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